Rate my improvement over my first half year

[Van.]

It's been six months since i've been working to improve at smash. I'd like to know if i'm progressing unusually slowly. I did have to not play for 6 weeks and wasted some time with other characters. Keep in mind that I have never played anyone who used AT's more advanced than shorthopping.

6 months ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AIkgNitwV8

Today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtE6JV_KPmI

What I see: I need to get more consistent with covering my SHFFl'd approaches with immediate u/d tilts, learn how to pivot fsmash out of dashdance, and use shieldbreaker less.

All feedback is apprieciated.

 

[Archangel]

It's an improvement but still got a few steps to take. You need to work on exploiting or creating openings and not leaving many. It feels cool to stand still sometimes but don't do it. Even if it works with the ppl you play against now it's a bad habit to start. Develop your dash dance game some more and try to explore some new options aside from ftilts and Neutral B's. Do not make a habit of swinging at shields either. It's so much easier just to go for grabs. .

Thats all I got for now but keep going dude. Also watch and learn is the simplest approach for now. Watch as many good Marth's as you can. More specifically watch how they move.

 

[Van.]

^ I appreciate it man. Hitting sheilds is one of my biggest problems, with all my characters.

 

[Aber]

It's been six months since i've been working to improve at smash. I'd like to know if i'm progressing unusually slowly. I did have to not play for 6 weeks and wasted some time with other characters. Keep in mind that I have never played anyone who used AT's more advanced than shorthopping.

6 months ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AIkgNitwV8

Today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtE6JV_KPmI

What I see: I need to get more consistent with covering my SHFFl'd approaches with immediate u/d tilts, learn how to pivot fsmash out of dashdance, and use shieldbreaker less.

All feedback is apprieciated.

definitley a lot of improvement from the first match where you were just walking around the stage lol......But you seem to sort of just throw out moves at random, try reacting to what your opponent is doing rather than just hoping something is going to be the right move.....Also utilize dash dance more, you should constantly be dashing around the stage

 

[Kadano]

Aside from what you've already been told: stop using the ftilt that much, especially if your opponent shields. If he shields, for now it's your best options to either dash in and grab (if you can do it, use JC grab) or wavedash in and grab. Out of the grab, do fthrow or uthrow (against doc) and follow up with fairs. You don't really seem to use follow-ups at all.

Using shieldbreaker against his shield can be a good thing in some situations (namely if his shield is already small and he is under pressure), but it's no good standard approach. His shield recovers too quickly, so basically you're only wasting time.

There is so much information here, but I think it would be better for you to watch videos of great players. I'd recommend Mango's and Ice's Marth because they always play very aggressive, which is something you're definitely lacking. Of course Mew2King's Marth is the most stylish one, but his playstyle consists of lots of data knowledge and knowing gimp option, which is not what you should learn now imho.

 

[Van.]

^I respect what you're saying, but it leaves a few questions.

1. Why shouldn't i learn gimping options now? And what do you mean by data knowledge?

2. M2K's Marth wins, Mang0's doesn't, even though its being played by Mang0. I've heard its unorthodox, inefficient Marth that only wins because of who is playing it.

 

[Kadano]

Mew2King knows when to use which move when edgeguarding a specific character extremely well. Of course it's a good thing for you to be able to do this, but if you really concentrate on this now, every decent opponent will realise that your on-stage performance is very weak and will simply stay away from the edges. I know that much of Mango's playstile consists of his ridiculous mindreads, but he still does a lot of pressure on the stage, which is imho what you really have to learn for now. To be specific: standard pressure with nairs, at higher % or against lightweights/ characters with no dangerous CC options fairs; closing in resp. escaping pressure and punishing with wavedash to dtilit or fsmash. Mew2King does that as well and with more dedication and perfection than Mango, but in most matches of him vs. "worse" players (most of them FFs), it's just chaingrab to gimp, which is, again, not what I think you should cncentrate on right now.
But honestly, it probably makes hardly any difference. Just watch any good Marths videos, especially take notes of how they are doing and escaping pressure, try to build them into your playstyle, and you should improve quickly.

 

[Van.]

Thanks man. I'll do just that.

 

[Dart!]

Mew2King knows when to use which move when edgeguarding a specific character extremely well. Of course it's a good thing for you to be able to do this, but if you really concentrate on this now, every decent opponent will realise that your on-stage performance is very weak and will simply stay away from the edges. I know that much of Mango's playstile consists of his ridiculous mindreads, but he still does a lot of pressure on the stage, which is imho what you really have to learn for now. To be specific: standard pressure with nairs, at higher % or against lightweights/ characters with no dangerous CC options fairs; closing in resp. escaping pressure and punishing with wavedash to dtilit or fsmash. Mew2King does that as well and with more dedication and perfection than Mango, but in most matches of him vs. "worse" players (most of them FFs), it's just chaingrab to gimp, which is, again, not what I think you should cncentrate on right now.
But honestly, it probably makes hardly any difference. Just watch any good Marths videos, especially take notes of how they are doing and escaping pressure, try to build them into your playstyle, and you should improve quickly.

where was that at RoM?

Edit: Other than what you've already been told i've got a correction

In certain cases, when confident, standing still can be your best option. slow walk is alright and dashing is important. It's all about Pacing
how you pace yourself is how you're going to dictate your chances of winning.