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Rate my Ghost Team

FrozenHobo

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Drifblim (Salec Berry)
Nature: Calm
Ability: Unburden
EVs: HP/Spd/Def/Sdef (i don't know exact numbers)
Substitute
Calm Mind
Charge Beam/ Natural Gift
Baton Pass

charge beam can give boosts in Sp. Atk whereas Natural Gift can offer a 1 turn use but ensures the use of the equipped berry and, in turn, the activation of his unburden ability. Drifblim's godly HP means large subs which can be transfered quickly with the speed boost from unburden. it also grants the next poke a free turn from being hit. calm mind can also add extra bite to the next poke switching in and can set up a sweep (see gengar).



Banette (focus sash)
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Insomnia
EVs: 128 HP, 170 Atk, 212 Spd
Shadow Claw
Will-O-Wisp
Destiny Bond
Knock Off

my suicide bomber. focus sash can almost always ensure survival as his terrible defenses work against him. this is usually my anti-gengar set as focus sash will save him from ohko shadow ball and let him hit back with shadow claw hard. will-o-wisp wrecks physical attackers as well as adding damage each turn they stay out. destiny bond is where all those speed evs/jolly nature kick in. while he may not be the fastest poke ever, he can still out run most slower pokes. this means he can pull of fa surprise destiny bond on his way out. knock off is nice all around and can take away an equiped item while still doing super effective damage to psychic/ghost types.



Gengar (life orb)
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: HP/Def/SpAtk/Spd (don't know exact numbers)
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis
Thunder Bolt
Focus Blast

the beast. gengar is my spl sweeper. you all know the drill, i shouldn't have to explain how it works...



Mismagius (Lum Berry)
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 SpDef
Perish Song
Mean Look
Protect
Taunt

perishtrapper. taunt is so they can't whirlwind/ roar her before she can set the trap. her high HP, Spd, and Sp.Def are all aimed at one thing: trap them with mean look and follow with perish song. or, alternatively, start with a perish and a) if they don't switch out follow up with a mean look or b) if they do switch out you get them with the mean look and just use another perish. protect can prevent ohko attacks, especially after the trap has been set so they can waste a turn and get closer to their imminent demise.



Spiritomb (Leftovers)
Nature: Careful
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP, 129 Atk, 129 Sp. Def.
Taunt
Sucker Punch
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split

no weaknesses is a VERY GOOD thing. spiritomb can be switched in on anything and not worry about getting punished (too badly). taunt is a good setup to consecutive sucker punches (which get STAB :3). will-o-wisp is to break down physical attacks/ help build damage. Pain Split works as a pseudo recover... that can deal damage.... so yeah. plus the overbearing Pressure means every turn they're loosing more and more PP.



Dusknoir (leftovers)
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Pressure
EVs: HP/Def/SpAtk
Substitute
Focus Punch
Ice Punch
Shadow Sneak

my tank/subpuncher. ideally subs from drifblim to a focus punch work best, but should something happen to drifty, dusk can still make his own (weaker) subs should the need arise. ice punch has good type coverage and uses dusknoir's high atk stat. Should i feel the need to speed up my attack turn, shadow sneak is a STAB'd increased priority move based off of his atk stat that also never misses which means an ensured hit (so **** you gengar!)


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your entire team is immune to rapid spin, so why not add residual damage?

froslass @ focus sash
snow cloak, timid
252 speed 252 sp att 4 def
spikes
taunt
destiny bond
ice beam

this can replace your lead so gengar isn't wasted early or ***** by pursuit tyranitar. snow cloak might irritate the rare abomasnow lead too. stab ice on a mono ghost team is cool.

also for gengar, I'd look into-

gengar @ life orb
levitate, hasty
136 att 120 spe att 252 speed
explosion
shadow ball
focus punch
thunderbolt

this gives you a fast utility pokemon that can be hard to deal with. promises to be a fun time. I'll look through this again later when I have more time. mono teams are pretty badass.
 

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Listen to Umbreon. Might also add that you NEED a reliable counter for Pursuit users like Weavile, Scizor, and Tyranitar. You could try that with this Dusknoir...

Dusknoir@Leftovers
Impish//Pressure
EV/ 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Atk
-Substitute/Shadow Sneak
-Focus Punch
-Fire Punch
-Pain Split/Shadow Sneak

It's like yours, only it isn't. Use Sub if you want it, or Shadow Sneak if you think Drifblim is able to pass a Sub to it. Focus Punch for Tyranitar, Weavile, and Blissey to name a few. Fire Punch for Scizor and Heracross hard. Then either Pain Split for healing when you use Substitute to lower your health, or Shadow Sneak if you need more coverage, like on Starmie (so it can counter most Rapid Spinners). You can fit in Will-o-wisp over Sub/Shadow Sneak/Pain Split so it can cripple the Pursuits users, Donphan (a Rapid Spinner that isn't covered well with Fire Punch and Focus Punch) and anything physical in general if you don't want to rely on the burn rate of Fire Punch.
 

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for dusknoir, idk how effective it is, but mine has:
dusknoir@leftovers
~ice beam
~fire punch
~painsplit
~will-o-whisp

just gining the moves and item for idea but it works very well I often get at least 2-3 kills.
 

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thanks umbreon, chubb and zrky. i like that gengar, and my froslass is already half way there, so that wit=ll be good. who should i drop for froslass though? also, a lot of the people i play tend to have dragon types and i know ice punch is good against a variety of types, which is why i gave it to dusknoir, but i guess i can switch to fire and rely on gengar's thunder bolt for the dragons...
 

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I would give dusknoir ice beam instead of ice punch, better accuracy and better power, since not all dragons are half flying.
 

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lol @ jigglyppuff8
Also @ your team
Never use Focus Band or Sitrus Berry. Srsly. Leftovers heals more in one turn (usually) that Sitrus Berry does, and Focus Band only work 1/10 times (but when it does work, its like WTF?)
I would change Focus Band into Focus Sash or Leftovers, and Sitrus berry to Leftovers. Wide lens does not make much of a difference in my book at least for hypnosis, (It helps Focus Blast...sorta) because 66% is not much better than 60% (thats for Platinum) . It would be better IMO to change the item to life orb or Focus Sash. I guess it could help a little for Pearl/Diamond.
sry if I got repetitive or confusing.
 

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lol @ jigglyppuff8
Also @ your team
Never use Focus Band or Sitrus Berry. Srsly. Leftovers heals more in one turn (usually) that Sitrus Berry does, and Focus Band only work 1/10 times (but when it does work, its like WTF?)
I would change Focus Band into Focus Sash or Leftovers, and Sitrus berry to Leftovers. Wide lens does not make much of a difference in my book at least for hypnosis, (It helps Focus Blast...sorta) because 66% is not much better than 60% (thats for Platinum) . It would be better IMO to change the item to life orb or Focus Sash. I guess it could help a little for Pearl/Diamond.
sry if I got repetitive or confusing.
sitrus is for drifblim's ability so he can get a speed boost, not for healing.

i'll consider focus sash

wide lens is a 10% increase in D/P so focus blast is 80% instead of 70%
and i dropped hypnosis for explosion.
 

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sitrus is for drifblim's ability so he can get a speed boost, not for healing.

i'll consider focus sash

wide lens is a 10% increase in D/P so focus blast is 80% instead of 70%
and i dropped hypnosis for explosion.
Oh 10% increase? I always thought of it as 10% of the original not +10%. Learn something knew everyday =D:laugh:
BTW: Is this Platinum or Diamond/Pearl?
 

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sitrus is for drifblim's ability so he can get a speed boost, not for healing.

i'll consider focus sash

wide lens is a 10% increase in D/P so focus blast is 80% instead of 70%
and i dropped hypnosis for explosion.
Oh ya, Unburden. Wouldn't it be better if you Baton Passed another Stat+ with SalacBerry or something like that?
I was thinking the samething Niiro was about the Accuracy thing :urg: srry D=
 

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i suggest destiny bond over explosion for gengar. plus why would u ever put an explosion on a sp sweeper especially if their attack is horrible. btw put a lot of evs on speed for him. he will need it and u should also put the natures of your pokemon. give your gengar a timid for max speed or a modest for max sp attack
 

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i suggest destiny bond over explosion for gengar. plus why would u ever put an explosion on a sp sweeper especially if their attack is horrible. btw put a lot of evs on speed for him. he will need it and u should also put the natures of your pokemon. give your gengar a timid for max speed or a modest for max sp attack
i'll put the natures up later, and umbreon suggested explosion which is why i put it.
 

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i'll put the natures up later, and umbreon suggested explosion which is why i put it.
k u never put explode on gengar. he wont do much damage with it. on the other hand if u put destiny bond it is almost a gauruntee k0 unless your oppent uses stat raising moves or recovers. only put explosion on weezing bronzong and metagross.
 

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k u never put explode on gengar. he wont do much damage with it. on the other hand if u put destiny bond it is almost a gauruntee k0 unless your oppent uses stat raising moves or recovers. only put explosion on weezing bronzong and metagross.
mm kthnx.
 

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i suggest destiny bond over explosion for gengar. plus why would u ever put an explosion on a sp sweeper especially if their attack is horrible. btw put a lot of evs on speed for him. he will need it and u should also put the natures of your pokemon. give your gengar a timid for max speed or a modest for max sp attack
No. Even with a hindering nature, Gengar can still **** many things (that don't resist it).
 
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i suggest destiny bond over explosion for gengar. plus why would u ever put an explosion on a sp sweeper especially if their attack is horrible. btw put a lot of evs on speed for him. he will need it and u should also put the natures of your pokemon. give your gengar a timid for max speed or a modest for max sp attack
lol don't listen to this crap. worst advice ever.

for mono ghost I'd run froslass gengar mismagius dusknoir spiritomb and rotom. froslass for a lead, mismagius to cause general gayness, dusknoir and spiritomb, gengar for a late game sweeper, and rotom to cover whatever weaknesses you have.

edit: explosion OHKOs blissey and lots of other stuff.
 

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lol don't listen to this crap. worst advice ever.

for mono ghost I'd run froslass gengar mismagius dusknoir spiritomb and rotom. froslass for a lead, mismagius to cause general gayness, dusknoir and spiritomb, gengar for a late game sweeper, and rotom to cover whatever weaknesses you have.

edit: explosion OHKOs blissey and lots of other stuff.

O~O

alright, i'll keep him with explosion for now.... also, what do you have in mind for a rotom/mismagius moveset?
 

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lol don't listen to this crap. worst advice ever.

for mono ghost I'd run froslass gengar mismagius dusknoir spiritomb and rotom. froslass for a lead, mismagius to cause general gayness, dusknoir and spiritomb, gengar for a late game sweeper, and rotom to cover whatever weaknesses you have.

edit: explosion OHKOs blissey and lots of other stuff.
o. well for lategame but for starter it might be better for dbond
 

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your spiritomb is good for now

you might want to consider ice punch. cuz it covers dragons. but i dont know what u would change it for.
 

FrozenHobo

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your spiritomb is good for now

you might want to consider ice punch. cuz it covers dragons. but i dont know what u would change it for.

well my dusknoir RIGHT NOW has:

substitute
focus punch
ice punch
earthquake


i was going to switch out ice for fire, and earthquake for shadow sneak.
 

sonic 12111

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o good. but i am not sure sub dusknor is good for u. cuz of his low hp the sub wont last so long. maybe a rest talker set so he can still attack but recover at same time.

ps this might not be that good. just mentioning it in case u like it
 
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