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Rate my Fox

F0xst3r

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 25, 2007
Messages
10
Location
GY/england
Don't be nasty but give me advice on how to get better kk coz am new at technical moves (but not the game)

luigi (luigi_mast3r) vs fox (me) part 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wE7MC7J-LBU

luigi (luigi_mast3r) vs fox (me) part 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bb0qgRNHBaA

luigi (luigi_mast3r) vs fox (me) part 3
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=D9AZdtj-0Og

FFA
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3mlOZMHkYAU

Team Luigi(luigi_mast3r)+ mario (me) vs CPUs
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kkJJeSRrO7g

AND finally Luigi(luigi_mast3r) vs Mario (me)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DJAxQYxyZXQ
 

Luigi_Mast3r

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
11
hey thats me.. :) Lee you need to grab alot more and Shffl i keep telling you this :) But your a good shiner (very annoying)
 

F0xst3r

Smash Rookie
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Oct 25, 2007
Messages
10
Location
GY/england
ino its funny and a gud technique to use and u tort me how 2 du that running grab so al start doin it k but i learnt how 2 tech yay :p and i m still learnin shffl in
 

Hylian

Not even death can save you from me
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Um...learn advanced tactics?
 

F0xst3r

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 25, 2007
Messages
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GY/england
i have dun, i cn tech, short hop, edge hog, wave dash, shffl, but that was a bad day lol ty tho for ur oppinion we have otha vids coming wer i use them techniques. seriously!!
 

Juker

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Apr 20, 2004
Messages
178
Location
Sandy, Utah
He's looking for advice Hylian, not someone to tell him something he's aware of and working on.
I would say spend more time with mindgames, and less time wavedashing at him from across the board ( ex. dash dancing). I only watched the first video because I'm at the union at my school so I'm kind of pressed for time. Be careful with your illusion, I'm not talking about when you killed yourself with it, we all make mistakes, but moreso when you almost killed yourself with it by doing it into the edge. Stuff like that is shaky and there seems to be some kind of weird thing with the edge where if someone is near it, it is shortened which can make you fall off when you shouldn't. I can explain more later, but I've experimented with it with my friend. If you do decide to do more grabs as your friend suggests, either jump cancel them, or use a boost grab. A boost grab is when you cancel the dash attack animation by doing a grab directly after the dash attack giving you a "boosted" grab. Just run, do a dash attack, and immediately after pressing the attack, do a grab, you see the animation for the attack to start but you'll lunge into a grab. I'm sure you know how to do the other. Crouch cancelling your smashes can be helpful in the right situations as well. Don't forget to try combos starting with short hopping and l cancelling your attacks. Like a drill shine into something. I hope this helps, sorry if it's sloppy but I don't have much time to organize. Good luck.
 

GOTM

Smash Champion
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Feb 4, 2007
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2,776
Location
West Chester, PA
you guys just really need to learn how advanced smash is played.

watch videos of like silent wolfs fox, and pc's fox. you need a lot of work. both of you
 

Juker

Smash Apprentice
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Apr 20, 2004
Messages
178
Location
Sandy, Utah
Following what GOTM said, Cunning Kitsune has a mean Fox, very technical...Speaking of which, you should check out his guide, although I doubt you haven't.
 

Wilhelmsan

Smash Lord
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Sep 22, 2006
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Austin, TX
Really, the best advanced techs for fox are mastering Lcancel->shine, and DD/Foxtrotting grabgame. IMO of course.
 

AeryEcho

Smash Cadet
Joined
May 31, 2006
Messages
50
Location
In my own little world
I'm assuming you're going to stay on a casual level with some technical stuff thrown in...I'm no technical player, so you might be better off with other people's comments...

Onwards:
I only saw the first video, but it seems you have evasive actions down pretty good. You used WD to get distance, used moderate mindgames, etc., but I noticed you didn't use your blaster (sorry if it's in the other two, because I can't watch them right now)
a SHB would be good for some extra damage, like at the beginning when Luigi didn't move.
Your aerials almost entirely consisted of uair, which is powerful but harder to time than other ones, and can be easily DI'd out of. Maybe try some bair and nair kicks occasionally. Those can be handy sometimes, easier to land the hit.
You definitely can shine a lot better than I can:laugh: No comment here.
Well, I personally think that it's risky to use up smash for a juggle, but certain situations it's debatable. If you throw them in the air, I usually would jump right up and aerial before they can counter or anticipate and dodge their aerial when they come down, usually spot dodge.
But that's just me. I hope this helps, if not, I tried. And failed.
 

Juker

Smash Apprentice
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Apr 20, 2004
Messages
178
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Sandy, Utah
Okay, now that I'm back from school I took a bit more time to look over your videos. You should start trying to incorporate shffling, or at least just lag canceling in general. I also noticed watching your video that most of your wavedashing looked like it was for show, I noticed a lot of rolling when it came down to the actual fray, and a lot of wavedashing when it was unnecessary; it looked like flash. As for you shine, use it, it's not just an edgeguarding tool; throw it in between moves and you can even use it to start combos, and getting back to the l cancelling, it's great after a drill kick or fast fallen aerial. Use more air game, and not just his uair. His nair and bair are very good, and his dair is a good combo starter. Hope this helps
 
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