Rate My Brother's Team! (Super Update: 11/02/07)

[victra♥]

Here's my younger brother's team.

Weavile@Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Ice Shard
- Aerial Ace
- Pursuit
- Brick Break
Lead/Physical Sweeper; I donno what to say really. Really nice type coverage, super fast and strong. You can never really go wrong with a weavile.

Swampert@Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252hp/252 def/6 atk
- Rest
- Avalance
- Earthquake
- Sleep Talk
Physical Wall; Saw this somewhere before. Looks fun. Avalance and Earthquake seem to cover a lot as well.

Gengar@Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 hp/252 spd/6sp attk
- Mean Look
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis
- Perish Song
Perish Songer?; Meh, changed it to this. Mean Look to trap, the Perish Song. Hypnosis is nice, and i can switch to one of my weaker guys when i need too. BAM,

Magmortar@Choice Scarf
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Modest
Evs: 252 sp atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
- Flamethrower
- Focus Blast
- Thunder bolt
- Psychic
Special Sweeper I donno; FIRE! BLARG!

Togekiss@Kings Rock
Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/252 sp def/6 def
- Wish
- Air Slash
- Aurasphere
- Thunder wave
Cleric; Thunder wave, Airslash etc. Aurasphere for Steels who think they can resist mah airslash

Empoleon@Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/ 252 sp. def/ 6spattk
- Grass Knot
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Special Wall; Hrmph.


Rate, Critique, and Give Advice. yada yada.

 

[chubb-o-wub]

Here's my younger brother's team.

Infernape@Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Nature:
EVs: 252 atk/252 spd/6 def
- Flare Blitz
- U- Turn
- Close Combat
- Thunder Punch
Lead/Physical Sweeper; FB and CC for coverage etc. U- Turn if the opponent resists, Thunder Punch for the common Gyarados lead.

Seems good.

Weezing@Black Sludge
Ability: Levitation
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252hp/252 def/6 4sp. def
- Haze
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Sludgebomb
Physical Wall; WoW, Pain Split to stay alive. Haze when needed.

Walled be Steels, but good.

Gengar@Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Mild
EVs: 252 sp.atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis
- Thunder Bolt
Special Sweeper; Meh, all pretty basic. Hypnosis is nice.

MUST use a +Speed nature. Otherwise it will die to anthing that can achieve 320 or above Speed.

Dugtrio@Choice Band
Ability: Arena Trap
Nature: Jolly
Evs: 252 atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
- Sucker Punch
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Aerial Ace
Physical Sweeper; Earthquake for STAB is the only one that really matter's anyways. Revenge Killer.

Good

Chansey@Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 hp/252sp def/6 def
- Thunder Wave
- Aromatheropy
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
Cleric; Standard Blissey. It's cute.

Almost no one uses Cleric Bliss anymore; may I suggest Ice Beam?

Milotic@Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/ 252 sp. def/ 6 def
- Recover
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Special Wall
Special Wall; Hrmph. Pretty basic.

The special wall on this team would be Blissey. Replace this with a different pokemon as almost everything 2HKOs this.

Rate, Critique, and Give Advice. yada yada.

There you go. As a whole, this team is weak either EQ ( Blissey falls in here due to low Def ) or Psychic. You should watch out for Alakazam, Yanmega w/Psychic, or any mixed sweeper that's faster than Dugtrio.

 

[shadydentist]

Yes, this team is very psychic weak, but i guess dugtrio would be a good revenge killer for that.

Also, since you already have Blissey for your special wall, why not add more sp. attack evs for milotic?

For Weezing, don't use sludge bomb. I would use flamethrower instead, it has much better type coverage, and you get a free heracross/skarmory/metagross/breloom counter.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

Here's my younger brother's team.

Infernape@Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Nature:
EVs: 252 atk/252 spd/6 def
- Flare Blitz
- U- Turn
- Close Combat
- Thunder Punch
Lead/Physical Sweeper; FB and CC for coverage etc. U- Turn if the opponent resists, Thunder Punch for the common Gyarados lead.

Good.

Weezing@Black Sludge
Ability: Levitation
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252hp/252 def/6 4sp. def
- Haze
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Sludgebomb
Physical Wall; WoW, Pain Split to stay alive. Haze when needed.

Don't use Sludge Bomb. Thunderbolt would be for Gyarados, but Infernape handles that. Your team has a CSHera weakness. Flamethrower would work good on Weezing.

Gengar@Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Mild
EVs: 252 sp.atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis
- Thunder Bolt
Special Sweeper; Meh, all pretty basic. Hypnosis is nice.

Looks good.

Dugtrio@Choice Band
Ability: Arena Trap
Nature: Jolly
Evs: 252 atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
- Sucker Punch
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Aerial Ace
Physical Sweeper; Earthquake for STAB is the only one that really matter's anyways. Revenge Killer.

Good. Once this gone, Alakazam could have some fun with this team.

Chansey@Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 hp/252sp def/6 def
- Thunder Wave
- Aromatheropy
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
Cleric; Standard Blissey. It's cute.

Blissey isn't cute. >_>

Milotic@Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/ 252 sp. def/ 6 def
- Recover
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Special Wall
Special Wall; Hrmph. Pretty basic.

"Special Wall" is an attack? O_O Anyways, I'd swap this out for, maybe, a Specs Pokemon?

Rate, Critique, and Give Advice. yada yada.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[MysticKenji]

No nature on Infernape???

Also Blissey is Blissey, not Chansey... >_>

LOL Special Wall is not an attack

EDIT:

Oh, and Flamethrower > Sludgebomb

 

[mood4food77]

cressy would do good on the team, it's the biggest pain in the *** if you don't have a bug/dark/ghost move on your team

it's so annoying to defeat, so use it

 

[FrostByte]

"Special wall" = Mirror coat?

 

[victra♥]

Super Update guyz. Please help.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

Here's my younger brother's team.

Weavile@Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Ice Shard
- Aerial Ace
- Night Slash
- Brick Break
Lead/Physical Sweeper; I donno what to say really. Really nice type coverage, super fast and strong. You can never really go wrong with a weavile.

Pursuit over Aerial Ace would make this a good revenge killer. But, then again... You don't really have anything to handle Heracross.

Swampert@Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252hp/252 def/64 atk
- Rest
- Avalance
- Earthquake
- Sleep Talk
Physical Wall; Saw this somewhere before. Looks fun. Avalance and Earthquake seem to cover a lot as well.

Looks good.

Gengar@Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Mild
EVs: 252 sp.atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis
- Thunder Bolt
Special Sweeper; Meh, all pretty basic. Hypnosis is nice.

Looks good.

Magmortar@Choice Band
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Timid
Evs: 252 atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
- Flamethrower
- Cross Chop
- Thunder bolt
- Psychic
Mixed Sweeper; A lot of help is needed for this one. A lot.

I guess this is OK.

Togekiss@Kings Rock
Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/252 sp def/6 def
- Wish
- Air Slash
- Aurasphere
- Thunder wave
Cleric; Thunder wave, Airslash etc. Aurasphere for Steels who think they can resist mah airslash

FlinchHax FTW.

Cradily@Leftovers
Ability: Suction Cups
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/ 252 sp. def/ 6 def
- Recover
- Giga Drain
- Toxic
- Stock pile

Special Wall; Hrmph.

I'd only use Cradily as a Special Wall under Sand Stream.

Rate, Critique, and Give Advice. yada yada.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[shadydentist]

Here's my younger brother's team.

Weavile@Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Ice Shard
- Aerial Ace
- Night Slash
- Brick Break
Lead/Physical Sweeper; I donno what to say really. Really nice type coverage, super fast and strong. You can never really go wrong with a weavile.

Definitely recommend pursuit over night slash. The only real pokemon that pursuit won't ohko are Dusknoir and Cresselia, and you could be sending out gengar against those instead.

Swampert@Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252hp/252 def/64 atk
- Rest
- Avalance
- Earthquake
- Sleep Talk
Physical Wall; Saw this somewhere before. Looks fun. Avalance and Earthquake seem to cover a lot as well.

you have too many evs. Did you mean 6 attack?

Gengar@Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Mild
EVs: 252 sp.atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis
- Thunder Bolt
Special Sweeper; Meh, all pretty basic. Hypnosis is nice.

Good, but if a weavile switches in on this while sleep clause is in effect, you're pretty much dead.

Magmortar@Choice Band
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Timid
Evs: 252 atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
- Flamethrower
- Cross Chop
- Thunder bolt
- Psychic
Mixed Sweeper; A lot of help is needed for this one. A lot.

Mixed sweepers typically run life orb, and a naive/hasty nature, but magmortar's poor speed makes him a poor candidate. With his sort of average speed but great special attack, he might be better with a choice scarf/modest type of set.

Togekiss@Kings Rock
Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/252 sp def/6 def
- Wish
- Air Slash
- Aurasphere
- Thunder wave
Cleric; Thunder wave, Airslash etc. Aurasphere for Steels who think they can resist mah airslash

Good

Cradily@Leftovers
Ability: Suction Cups
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/ 252 sp. def/ 6 def
- Recover
- Giga Drain
- Toxic
- Stock pile

Special Wall; Hrmph.

Type coverage is... meh. Steels wall you like crazy.

Rate, Critique, and Give Advice. yada yada.

Its needs a little tweaking.

 

[victra♥]

thats where y'all come in : D

 

[MysticKenji]

This team is okay.

Weavile should consider Pursuit over Night Slash.
Magmortar could use Focus Blast over Cross Chop and switch to special attacking.
Cradily gets walled by Steels easily.
What happened with Swampert's EVs?

 

[victra♥]

the 64 is supposed to be 6 >_>

 

[victra♥]

Kay, i added a few things.

 

[nitro-blazer]

Cradily really isn't that great without sandstorm...

 

[victra♥]

Who should i use as an alternative?

 

[MysticKenji]

Blissey?
Probopass?

Just throwing out ideas...

 

[victra♥]

Everyone has blissey. Isn't there any other special wall out there.
Probopass...hmm.

 

[chubb-o-wub]

Try Empoleon or a Calm Mind Dusknoir. That should be fun.

 

[victra♥]

I'm trying out an Empoleon. Any ratings?

 

[GOTM]

decent team, but thats not the main reason im commenting.

can people stop quoting that long of a thread? theres no point except wasted space and tireless scrolling

 

[ss118]

Here's my younger brother's team.

Weavile@Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Ice Shard
- Aerial Ace
- Pursuit
- Brick Break
Lead/Physical Sweeper; I donno what to say really. Really nice type coverage, super fast and strong. You can never really go wrong with a weavile.
Fine, but the speed is overkill: use a Choice Band, don't use it as your starter, and, to make it the ULTIMATE revenge killer, give it Ice Shard and Pursuit, like now, along with Night Slash and Ice Punch. Or just keep Aerial ace and Brick Break if coverage>power.

Swampert@Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252hp/252 def/6 atk
- Rest
- Avalance
- Earthquake
- Sleep Talk
Physical Wall; Saw this somewhere before. Looks fun. Avalance and Earthquake seem to cover a lot as well.
Intresting....

Gengar@Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Mild
EVs: 252 sp.atk/252 spd/6 hp
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis
- Thunder Bolt
Special Sweeper; Meh, all pretty basic. Hypnosis is nice.
Use a Life Orb, and give it Explosion with 128 Attack EVs to guarantee a OHKO on Blissey's. Hasty>Mild.

Magmortar@Choice Scarf
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Modest
Evs: 252 sp atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
- Flamethrower
- Focus Blast
- Thunder bolt
- Psychic
Mixed Sweeper? I donno; FIRE! BLARG!
How is this mixed?
Give it a Life Orb, and try Mach Punch, Overheat, EQ, and Thunderbolt for a Mixed set.

Togekiss@Kings Rock
Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/252 sp def/6 def
- Wish
- Air Slash
- Aurasphere
- Thunder wave
Cleric; Thunder wave, Airslash etc. Aurasphere for Steels who think they can resist mah airslash
HAXHAXHAX

Empoleon@Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 hp/ 252 sp. def/ 6spattk
- Grass Knot
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Special Wall; Hrmph.
Fine, w/e


Rate, Critique, and Give Advice. yada yada.

meh.... it's OK, I guess

 

[GOTM]

i guess he didnt get my previous post

 

[chaos 9]

k im the new resident rater k? lol

yeah there is absolutly no point of scarf on weavile. if you want extra somthing use band not scarf. it already has 380 somthing speed geez...

and magmortar is out classed in just about everything by heatran use that instead..

no kings rock on kiss use lefties wish is not needed you could/should use roost

blissey is a better sp. wall and can use wish so it can be taken off of kiss. she just works better than empoleon.