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Rate me Trick room team: Trickey Explosion!

pikachun00b7

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What happens when you add

Slow Pokes+ Trick Room+ the most awesome move ever= Sex.

Give me advice on how to make this team the invincible Orgy of destruction!


Slow King
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 SATK, 152 SDEF,104 DEF
Nature: Quiet(+SATK,-SPD)
Item: Left Overs
Calm Mind
Surf
Trick Room
Phycic

Comment: Should I switch HP Electric with Calm Mind?


Bronzong
Ability: Heat Proof
EVs: 252 HP, 152 ATK, 104 DEF
Nature: Brave(+ATK, -SPD)
Item: Life Orb
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Explosion
TricK Room

Comment: Expload!


Dusknoir
Nature:Brave( What? Do you have a bad memory?)
item:Leftovers
Nickname: Falcon
EVs: 252 ATK,76 Def, 180 HP
Trick Room
Pain Split
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Falcon PUUUUUUNCH!

Comment: Heracross is in trouble now. ****, if only I had the knee.


Shukle
Item: Life Orb
Nature:Relaxed(+ DEf, -SPD)
Evs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 SDEF
Earth Quake
Stone Edge
Power Trick
Gyro Ball

Comment: A must have on a Trick Room Team.

Infernape
Items: Iron Ball
Nature: Something that raises speed
EVs: 136 SATK, 116 ATK, 252 SPD
Fling
Close Combat
Grass knot
Flame Thrower

Comment: ****, I love explosion. Crunch for deem ghosts.


Executer
Nature: Quiet(+SATK, -SPD)
Item: Lum Berry
EVs: 252 HP, 200 SATK, 56 ATK
Explosian
EnergyBall
Trick Room
Suldge bomb


Comment: Another Explosian. Six Pokemon in TR can outrun this.
Probably the most "interesting" Executter. Very Weird.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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What happens when you add

Slow Pokes+ Trick Room+ the most awesome move ever= Sex.

Give me advice on how to make this team the invincible Orgy of destruction!


Slow King
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 SATK, 152 SDEF,104 DEF
Nature: Quiet(+SATK,-SPD)
Item: Left Overs
HP Electric
Surf
Trick Room
Phycic

Comment: Should I switch HP Electric with Calm Mind?

Yeah, probably.


Bronzong
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP, 152 ATK, 104 DEF
Nature: Brave(+ATK, -SPD)
Item: Life Orb
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Explosion
TricK Room

Comment: Expload!

Response: Expload! (a.k.a. Good)


Dusknoir
Nature:Brave( What? Do you have a bad memory?)
item:Leftovers
EVs: 252 ATK,76 Def, 180 HP
Trick Room
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Falcon PUUUUUUNCH!

Comment: Heracross is in trouble now. ****, if only I had the knee.

Good. If you want Dusk Falcon to survive longer, give it Pain Split over Fire Punch.


Shukle
Item: Life Orb
Nature:Relaxed(+ DEf, -SPD)
Evs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 SDEF
Earth Quake
Stone Edge
Power Trick
Gyro Ball

Comment: A must have on a Trick Room Team.

Good.


Gallade
Item:Twisted Spoon
Nature: Brave (WTH cant you remember?)
EVs:232 HP, 232 ATK
Close Combat
Phyco Cut
Night Slash
Trick Room

Comment: A bit risky to put on a trickroom team. as it can still be outrun by 0IV blissey- 1IV SPD Blissey.
But who in the hell would have those?!
A really unlucky person I guess.

OK. Gallade is for offense, not Trick Rooming.


Executer
Nature: Quiet(+SATK, -SPD)
Item: Lum Berry
EVs: 252 HP, 200 SATK, 56 ATK
Explosian
EnergyBall
Trick Room
Suldge bomb

Good.

Comment: Another Explosian. Six Pokemon in TR can outrun this.
Probably the most "interesting" Executter. Very Weird.
Your team has a weakness to Ghost and Dark attacks, like the ones Spiritomb uses. This weakness is even worse considering the fact that none of your Pokes resist Ghost or Dark.

6.5/10 :ohwell:

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

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Rule #1 of a trick room team. Not every pokemon should have a speed reducing nature in the event you cannot get off a trick room or trick room has worn off.
 

pikachun00b7

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Yeah, probably.
Ok , changed.

Good. If you want Dusk Falcon to survive longer, give it Pain Split over Fire Punch.
Sure.

OK. Gallade is for offense, not Trick Rooming.
Ok, I'll see if I can switch Gallade. Maybe Steelix or skarmory.
Steelix does have teh explosion.....


Bringing in in another steel type will give me resistence to Ghosts and darks.
And it wont be a Trick Roomer. Therefore I will meet all of your complaints.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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But if you add Steelix, it would make you have a small Fire weak, while still having a small Dark Ghost weak. At least a Poke will resist Dark/Ghost, and Slowking resists Fire.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

pikachun00b7

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But if you add Steelix, it would make you have a small Fire weak, while still having a small Dark Ghost weak. At least a Poke will resist Dark/Ghost, and Slowking resists Fire.

Fire weekness?!
I have slowking and three Pokes that know Earth quake!
I have a strength against Ph1l3 types!
Not even Roy or Ylink can destroy this team.

Steelix counters ghost types and resists Darks.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Fire weekness?!
I have slowking and three Pokes that know Earth quake!
I have a strength against Ph1l3 types!
Not even Roy or Ylink can destroy this team.

Steelix counters ghost types and resists Darks.
I consider someone has a weakness in a type if three of their Pokes are weak to a type, which is half the team. Steelix, Exeggutor and Bronzong are weak against teh ph1r3.

Remember, not just Fire types know Fire attacks.

Blissey and Salamence know Flamethrower
Many Pokes know Fire Punch
Etc.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Problem2

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Your weakness chart:
normal - weakness 0 - resistance 3 - Immunities 1
grass - weakness 1 - resistance 3 - Immunities 0
bug - weakness 2 - resistance 2 - Immunities 0
poison - weakness 0 - resistance 1 - Immunities 2
fire - weakness 3 - resistance 1 - Immunities 0
water - weakness 2 - resistance 2 - Immunities 0
ice - weakness - 1 - resistance 3 - Immunities 0
electric - weakness 1 - resistance 1 - Immunities 1
fighting - weakness 0 - resistance 2 - Immunities 1
rock - weakness 0 - resistance 4 - Immunities 0
ground - weakness 1 - resistance 1 - Immunities 1
psychic - weakness 0 - resistance 4 - Immunities 0
ghost - weakness 3 - resistance 1 - Immunities 0
dark - weakness 3 - resistance 1 - Immunities 0
steel - weakness 1 - resistance 3 - Immunities 0
dragon - weakness 0 - resistance 1 - Immunities 0


You have triple weakness to Dark, Ghost, and Fire. While I can understand getting away with having a bit of a fire weakness, Shadowball and Crunch are popular moves and will keep Slowking, Dusknoir, and Exeggutor on the run, leaving Bronzong to do all the trickrooming. :(

And then guess what? Your Bronzong is one of the three that is weak against Fire.

Anyways, a way you could fix this is by switching Slowking for a Slowbro to make a better defense wall, and then you can drop Steelix for Snorlax. That should eliminate 1 weakness to fire and create an immunity for Ghost, but this leaves you without a Dark resistance.=\ hmmm

EDIT: and as a bonus, Snorlax's Thick Fat gives him a resistance to Fire. Thought I should add that.
 

pikachun00b7

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I consider someone has a weakness in a type if three of their Pokes are weak to a type, which is half the team. Steelix, Exeggutor and Bronzong are weak against teh ph1r3.

Remember, not just Fire types know Fire attacks.

Blissey and Salamence know Flamethrower
Many Pokes know Fire Punch
Etc.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

If I switch steelix with Empoleon, will that help?



Empoleon
Item:
Iron Ball
Nature: modest (+SATK, -SPD )
EVs: 252 ATK, 84 SPD, 172 HP
Surf
Grass Knot
Fling( Does 130)
Avalanche

EDIT: I could switch Bronzong's ability to Heatproof.


Pokes weak to fire
Executer
Pokes strong to phire
Slowking, Empoleon, Bronzong(heatproof+EQ), shuckle(EQ)

Pokes weak to ghost
Duskiner, Slow King.
Pokes strong to ghost
Empoleon(fling)
Pokes weak to Dark
Duskiner, Slowking, Bronzong.
Pokes strong to Dark
None.

EDIT: I could also use Infernape in my other RMT. But I will have no resistence to ghost. But I will have dark.

Or "specialized" infernape


Items: Iron Ball
Nature: Something that raises speed
EVs: 136 SATK, 116 ATK, 252 SPD
Fling
Close Combat
Grass knot
Flame Thrower

But this kinda sucks.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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If I switch steelix with Empoleon, will that help?



Empoleon
Item:
Iron Ball
Nature: modest (+SATK, -SPD )
EVs: 252 ATK, 84 SPD, 172 HP
Surf
Grass Knot
Fling( Does 130)
Avalanche

EDIT: I could switch Bronzong's ability to Heatproof.


Pokes weak to fire
Executer
Pokes strong to phire
Slowking, Empoleon, Bronzong(heatproof+EQ), shuckle(EQ)

Pokes weak to ghost
Duskiner, Slow King.
Pokes strong to ghost
Empoleon(fling)
Pokes weak to Dark
Duskiner, Slowking, Bronzong.
Pokes strong to Dark
None.

EDIT: I could also use Infernape in my other RMT. But I will have no resistence to ghost. But I will have dark.
Empoleon and Shuckle arn't strong against Fire. Water/Rock resists it, but Steel/Bug is weak to it, so they take neutral damage.

Bronzong takes neutral damage to Dark.

Empoleon is resistant to Dark.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Edit: Try Heatran. It's immune to Fire, resistant to Ghost and Dark, and isn't really the fastest thing around.
 

pikachun00b7

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Hmm... It takes 20 hits to KO a Fire type with Shuckle's EQ...

Eh, the Infernape set looks OK. Why do you want Fling, though?

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Ghost types.
It will be so unexpected when I peg a 2 ton iron ball at a ghosts face! Yeah ghost types.

And Shuckle's Power Trick-> Earthquake will make infernape DIe.

since when can shuckle deal a significant amount of damamge?
After it uses the Power Trick.

Know, what pokemon can **** this new team?
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Let's see...

Slowking, Dusknoir and Exeggutor are weak to Ghost and Dark. A Spiritomb could take care of that, or a Gengar. You only have a Dark resist in Infernape.

Shuckle and Infernape are weak to Water.

Bronzong can be worn down.

Hmm...

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Wii4Mii 99

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Grass knot OHKOs swampert.
Does Pikachu count a water type?
Swampert isn't the only Water type. Vaporeon is light, so it won't take serious damage from Grass Knot. There's also Gyarados, who is neutral to GN, but is heavy.

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Wii4Mii 99

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Infernape doesn't do well against Gyadose.
Well, there ya go. A Water Pokemon that can counter Shuckle and Infernape. Gyarados is also immune to Earthquake.

However, if Infernape had Thunderpunch...

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