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Rate jpp8's team *Redone*

jigglyppuff8

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Okay I will scrap my old post so I can do it over again. Here goes:


Porygon-z/Poreegon-z @ Expert Belt
Trait: Download
Nature: Modest +sp. atk - atk
EVs:255 sp. atk/255 speed
IVs: 22 HP/25 Atk/12 Def/16 sp. atk/2 sp. def/24 speed

Moveset:
Thunderbolt-15
Tri attack-14
Nasty Plot-20
Ice Beam-12

Thunderbolt and Ice beam for standard super effective and when tri attack can't be used. They get a boost from the expert belt.Nasty Plot for making it stronger and easier to cause massive damage. Tri attack is, of course poryon-z's powerhouse attack. 255 in speed and sp. atk ensure a speedy kill. It has Pokerus.


Milotic/Milowtik @Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
Nature: Calm +sp. def - atk
EVs: 255 sp. def/155 sp. atk/100 def
IVs: 8 HP/16 atk/7 def/28 sp. atk/27 sp. def/22 speed

Moveset:
Aqua Ring-20
Surf-15
Ice Beam-10
Recover-10

Eheheh. My primary annoyance. Surf and Ice Beam are standard water type moves(moves that a water type should konw). Aqua Ring doubled with Leftovers ensure a nice recovery every turn and recover is used in case of a physical sweeper. "Argh!!! Why can't I kill this thing?!" My opponent shall say. 255 in sp. def, 100 in defense, and 155 in sp. atk make this pokemon a special tank. Gave me the Pokerus when EV training.


Flygon/Fligon @ Focus Sash
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Jolly +speed -sp. atk
EVs:255 atk/255 speed
IVs: 8 HP/23 atk/31 def OMG WTF/11 sp. atk/24 sp. def/25 speed

Moveset:
Dragon Claw-15
Crunch-15
Fire Blast-5
Earthquake-10

My Flygon will prove that Flygons are the best Dragon types around! Other Dragon types run Yache Berries, power orbs, or Dragon Fangs but my Flygon's Focus Sash and 255 in speed and attack will ensure that it will knock out most salamances, dragonites and garchomps with its Dragon Claw. Earthquake is used when not against other Dragons. Crunch to take care of pesky Gengars and Mismagiuses. Fire Blast? Eh. Flygon is also an earthquake avoider and thunderbolt negator. It also has Pokerus


Blaziken/Blazekan @ Shell Bell
Trait: Blaze
Nature: Lonely +atk -def
EVs:255 atk/195 speed/ 60 HP
IVs: 10 HP/4 atk/30 def/3 sp. atk/15 speed

Moveset:
Quick attack-30
Sky Uppercut-15
Brave Bird-15
Flare Blitz-15

This Blaziken which I like to call "Suicideiken" sometimes, mainly focuses on Recoil Damageing attacks and uses quick attack on faster opponent to finish them off. I put 60 in HP to make sure it can survive the recoil. Quick attack is for this slow, slow blaziken to land a finishing blow on quicker opponents with focus sashes or salac berries. A good F.E.A.R counter. Also Counters Salacs! (salac requires low HP, High atk should ensure a quick demise.)


Roserade/Rozerayd @ Heat Rock
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Modest +sp. atk -atk
EVs:255 sp. atk/255 speed
IVs: 25 HP/ 28 Atk/16 Def/23 sp. atk/12 sp. def/23 speed

Moveset:
Weather Ball-16
Synthesis-6
Solarbeam-12
Sunny Day-5

This Sunny Dayer was made to counter other Roserades with its weather ball. I just hope it doesn't die when I use Sunny day -_-. Solarbeam and synthesis self-explanatory, effectiveness uped in sunny weather where sunny day and heat rock come in handy.


Skarmory/Skarmaurie @ Muscle Band/Sharp Beak?
Trait:Sturdy
Nature: Impish +def -sp. atk
EVs:255 def/255 speed
IVs: 23 HP/16 atk/29 Def?/29 sp. atk/10 sp. def/17 speed?

Moveset:
Roar
Spikes
Drill Peck
Roost

Your typical Skarmory. Spikes for switch out damage and roar for a forced switchout. Drill peck for the finishing blow and roost for healing. My IVs have ? on them because my Skarmory is still at a low level and its IVs could be higher.

Well rates anyone?
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MasterMatt

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infernape>blaziken... get rid of ur gallade... its IVs are horrible... flygon is definitely different... movesets are good, though...
 

Wii4Mii 99

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No offense, but those IVs are horrible, especially for Gallade and Blaziken.

You have a Flying weakness because half your team is weak to said type and you have no resist.

Weavile

Ice Punch
Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Swords Dance

Ice Punch = Flygon
Brick Break = Porygon-Z
Aerial Ace = Roserade, Blaziken, Gallade
Swords Dance = Other attacks do more damage to Milotic

6/10 :ohwell:

Come on, jpp8. I expected more from you.

j/k. You ain't gonna be successful all the time. ;)

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

jigglyppuff8

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What is a good weavile counter?
Lucario? Brick Break
Breloom? Ice Punch/aerial ace
Gengar w Focus Blast? Night Slash
Pure Fire? all Borderline or lower
Any Fighting? Aerial ace
Rock Type? Ryperior is too slow and Ice punch. T-tar sabatoges my team with sand stream.
Aerodactyl? Can't learn stone edge and ice punch
Arcanine? It takes forever to train as a growlithe and Weavile can still take a hit.
Bugs? ice punch/aerial ace
Face it. In this new gen, whoever runs Weavile wins.
 

blindhobo

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Just so you know, you're wasting EVs if you run 255/255 spreads.

Since it's 4 EV points = 1 stat, if you are running 252/252/4 would let you have that extra point.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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What is a good weavile counter?
Lucario? Brick Break
Breloom? Ice Punch/aerial ace
Gengar w Focus Blast? Night Slash
Pure Fire? all Borderline or lower
Any Fighting? Aerial ace
Rock Type? Ryperior is too slow and Ice punch. T-tar sabatoges my team with sand stream.
Aerodactyl? Can't learn stone edge and ice punch
Arcanine? It takes forever to train as a growlithe and Weavile can still take a hit.
Bugs? ice punch/aerial ace
Face it. In this new gen, whoever runs Weavile wins.
How about Metagross? It's neutral to Night Slash and Brick Break, resistant to Ice Punch and Aerial Ace, has good Defense so it can take the hits, and can KO with Meteor Mash or Bullet Punch.

Bronzong or Forretress can also work. They are neutral or resistant to Weavile's attacks and can use Gyro Ball to screw it up.

Rhyperior's massive Defense and Solid Rock allow it to survive unboosted Ice punch/Brick Breaks and KO with Stone Edge/Earthquake.

Face it. Whoever uses Weavile this gen thinks they can own. But, in reality, they're being cheap.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

PS. Aerodactyl CAN learn Stone Edge. ;)
 

Wii4Mii 99

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lopunny is ****ing ugly!
Sure, but... You ever heard it's cry? It sounds like its whistling sexually at ur trainer or something.

What do you think about Gardevoir, eh?

Let's get back on topic...

@ jigglyppuff8

Are those really your Pokemons' nicknames? Milotic = Milowtik?

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

jigglyppuff8

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@ jigglyppuff8

Are those really your Pokemons' nicknames? Milotic = Milowtik?

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
Yes, they are. My nicknames are corruptions of their real names.
Would Scarmory be a good counter for weavile? I have one with defense IVs("Good indurance"/impish) and I'll replace my Gallade with it. What are some good scarmory movesets and EV spreads. Keep in mind that defense will be 255. This is what I have in mind so far:

Skarmory @ ?
Impish
Keen Eye
Good Endurance= Excellent Defense
EVs:255 Def/1?? atk/??? speed
Moveset:
Roost
Drill Peck
Swords Dance
Steel Wing

Any suggestions? Also, in case if you were wondering, Skarmory will be "Skarmaurie".
 

commonyoshi

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Everything that pretty much needs to be said already has been. I do have some suggestions.

Get rid of that stupid Aqua Ring on Milotic. Go with Hypnosis, or Mirror Coat.

Roserade needs to die even though it would fair rather well against steel pokemon. Go with Weezing instead because it also pwns steel with Flamethrower and Will-owisp, but also because you have an Electivire weakness as well. Weezing can wall of of his attacks as well as Will-o wisp the nasty sucker. Not to mention it should fair well against those Gyaradoses. Just watch out for taunt.

I'm against Flygon in general. Maybe replace it with Bronzong or Metagross as stated above.

PS: Lopunny is ugly. Gardevoir is ugly.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Yes, they are. My nicknames are corruptions of their real names.
Would Scarmory be a good counter for weavile? I have one with defense IVs("Good indurance"/impish) and I'll replace my Gallade with it. What are some good scarmory movesets and EV spreads. Keep in mind that defense will be 255. This is what I have in mind so far:

Skarmory @ ?
Impish
Keen Eye
Good Endurance= Excellent Defense
EVs:255 Def/1?? atk/??? speed
Moveset:
Roost
Drill Peck
Swords Dance
Steel Wing

Any suggestions? Also, in case if you were wondering, Skarmory will be "Skarmaurie".
I think this is the standard:

Skarmaurie @ Leftovers
Impish (Def+ SpAtk-)
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Spd

Spikes / Stealth Rock
Whirlwind
Roost
Drill Peck

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

PS. I'm staying out of this Lopunny and Gardevoir stuff. :lick:
 

jigglyppuff8

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Okay, Let's see here:
Mastermatt said:
infernape>blaziken... get rid of ur gallade... its IVs are horrible... flygon is definitely different... movesets are good, though...
Usually, Infernapes use close combat if they don't have earthquake and Blaziken can just barely survive enough ot pull off a brave bird and KO them both. If they do know earthquake, then I'm dead X(.

I had just realized its IVs stink, just realized. I had no idea they were that bad :(.

How different is my Flygon?

Which movesets? all? Flygon's?
commonyoshi said:
Get rid of that stupid Aqua Ring on Milotic. Go with Hypnosis, or Mirror Coat
Hmm... Nah. I like to go with my own movesets. Besides, my Milotic was meant to be an annoyer, so if I could just give the illusion of it constantly healing, my opponents will get really frustrated.
commonyoshi said:
Roserade needs to die even though it would fair rather well against steel pokemon. Go with Weezing instead because it also pwns steel with Flamethrower and Will-owisp, but also because you have an Electivire weakness as well. Weezing can wall of of his attacks as well as Will-o wisp the nasty sucker. Not to mention it should fair well against those Gyaradoses. Just watch out for taunt.
Okay. If that's how you feel, then give me a koffing. I don't have one.
commonyoshi said:
I'm against Flygon in general. Maybe replace it with Bronzong or Metagross as stated above.
How about replacing the gallade instead of my beloved flygon?
commonyoshi said:
PS: Lopunny is ugly. Gardevoir is ugly
Wii4Mii99 said:
PS: Lopunny is ugly. Gardevoir is ugly
ILoveCelebi!!208 said:
WTF are you talking about? Lopunny is not ugly!
Well it doesn't really matter since they're not fit for real competitive battling. I don't even think they're borderline tier. And on my thread Milotic is( and always will be) the most beautiful.

Okay so here are the standings:
Porygon-z, Milotic, and Flygon will stay the same(for now)
Gallade is being replaced by a skarmory
Roserade and Blaziken(due to IVs) are being debated.

Well, Rates anyone?
 
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meta i a great weavile counter, so you should get one, but then youll have a 3 times weakness to fire.
milotic needs some defensive support also
 
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