R&L's Hitboxes?

[MarioMeteor]

Now is it me or do R&L have a bad case of ****box Syndrome? It's most noticeable with Up and Down Smash. But it happens with F tilt, Up air, and Up tilt to. I swear to God I'll be right next to people and I won't hit them. Unless I'm outside my right, I don't think it's me. Like, what the actual ****?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Up tilt has no horizontal distance, so you really need the Luma by your side to make up for that flaw.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Yeah. I found that out the hard way.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

You basically need to know which attacks to use for which situation. Forward tilt and down tilt are all horizontal, while up tilt and up air are all vertical.

 

[MarioMeteor]

All right. Now what about up and down smash. Can you explain those?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Up smash does have some horizontal distance, but only if the fighter is standing right in front of Rosalina. As for down smash, it's basically an all horizontal attack.

 

[ParanoidDrone]

Rosalina's galaxy effects for fsmash, dsmash, and bair also don't have hitboxes out for the entire animation, it's a quick burst as they appear and that's it. Looks a bit weird but you have to take it into account.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Rosalina's galaxy effects for fsmash, dsmash, and bair also don't have hitboxes out for the entire animation, it's a quick burst as they appear and that's it. Looks a bit weird but you have to take it into account.

Ahh, now I get you. That makes sense. Well actually no it don't, but I know now. So she's got Meta Knight Syndrome?

 

[ParanoidDrone]

Ahh, now I get you. That makes sense. Well actually no it don't, but I know now. So she's got Meta Knight Syndrome?

Not really? Her range is more or less exactly as you see (i.e. fairly big and disjointed as hell) but the hitboxes don't stick around as long as the pretty galaxy effects do, so if you just barely mistime a bair, for instance, then you'll see the enemy fall into the galaxy to absolutely no effect. Because the hitbox has come and gone already. But if you had timed it just a bit better then you would have scored a clean hit.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Not really? Her range is more or less exactly as you see (i.e. fairly big and disjointed as hell) but the hitboxes don't stick around as long as the pretty galaxy effects do, so if you just barely mistime a bair, for instance, then you'll see the enemy fall into the galaxy to absolutely no effect. Because the hitbox has come and gone already. But if you had timed it just a bit better then you would have scored a clean hit.

Huh. Interesting. Stupid, but interesting. Guess that solves the great mystery of why my opponent can stand there and read a book while I try to hit them.

 

[Garde Noir]

Huh. Interesting. Stupid, but interesting. Guess that solves the great mystery of why my opponent can stand there and read a book while I try to hit them.

I think of it this way-- the arms of the galaxy don't have the gravity, the black hole in the center does.

 

[MarioMeteor]

I think of it this way-- the arms of the galaxy don't have the gravity, the black hole in the center does.

I'm not even going to try to explain to you how wrong that is. But whatever floats your boat.

 

[Parcheesy]

All right. Now what about up and down smash. Can you explain those?

As a side note, I've had solo-Rosalina Up Smash miss quite a bit against short and grounded opponents ( even against Ness height, it sometimes swoops right over them ). As for down smash, it's really never an issue if you have Luma beside you; it's not even a hitbox issue, just having four separate hitboxes come out is really unlikely to miss anyone close. Other than that, it takes quite a bit to get used to all the hitboxes in her key, they are pretty weird.

 

[Mindles]

wheres my notebook..

 

[icraq]

As a side note, I've had solo-Rosalina Up Smash miss quite a bit against short and grounded opponents ( even against Ness height, it sometimes swoops right over them ).

they shrunk solo rosalina's upsmash hitbox with the patch. it was said to be a small increase but i am noticing it more and more. it's so unreliable to connect with horizontally. most of the time it will but like, lets say zelda up b's onto the stage right in front of you and you dont get hit and she's in her recovery animation, you can whiff using usmash oos because zelda moves a bit in that lag animation. it's not bad if you have luma, but it's awful for hitting behind you. it's super reliable for punishing fatties tho.

 

[MarioMeteor]

As a side note, I've had solo-Rosalina Up Smash miss quite a bit against short and grounded opponents ( even against Ness height, it sometimes swoops right over them ). As for down smash, it's really never an issue if you have Luma beside you; it's not even a hitbox issue, just having four separate hitboxes come out is really unlikely to miss anyone close. Other than that, it takes quite a bit to get used to all the hitboxes in her key, they are pretty weird.

Yeah, I've kinda gravitated (insert Beavis laugh) away from her because of her ****boxes. That, and 104 ****ed with her best kill move. I might just pick her back up. I usually like to have Luma away ready to jump anybody who tries to run, so problem # I lost count.

 

[Iron Kraken]

Rosalina has amazing range with her hitboxes, but it takes some time to understand them.

For example, when Luma is attached to her, the two main hitboxes are right in front of Rosalina and the area in front of Luma. But there's a spot in between Rosalina and Luma in which her Smash won't hit nearly as hard.

But if you manage to hit with Luma, the base knock back is incredible. Luma's forward smash consistently KO's opponents around 60% if you hit them at the edge of the stage, no exaggeration. I'm not even talking about against characters with bad jumps that can't recover to the stage. I'm talking about knocking them clear off the map. Hitting with a charged Luma forward smash in the sweet spot is basically a Warlock Punch.

Her up-smash and espeically her down-smash cover a lot of range, when Luma is with you. But her up-smash won't hit at all if your opponent is behind both you and Luma, so be carefuly of that.

Other than that, I'm not really sure what to say. Rosalina and Luma have amazing hitboxes, once you understand how they work.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Rosalina has amazing range with her hitboxes, but it takes some time to understand them.

For example, when Luma is attached to her, the two main hitboxes are right in front of Rosalina and the area in front of Luma. But there's a spot in between Rosalina and Luma in which her Smash won't hit nearly as hard.

But if you manage to hit with Luma, the base knock back is incredible. Luma's forward smash consistently KO's opponents around 60% if you hit them at the edge of the stage, no exaggeration. I'm not even talking about against characters with bad jumps that can't recover to the stage. I'm talking about knocking them clear off the map. Hitting with Luma in the sweet spot is basically a Warlock Punch.

Her up-smash and espeically her down-smash cover a lot of range, when Luma is with you. But her up-smash won't hit at all if your opponent is behind both you and Luma, so be carefuly of that.

Other than that, I'm not really sure what to say. Rosalina and Luma have amazing hitboxes, once you understand how they work.

Then I must be clueless as all hell. Thank ya kindly for the info though.