Project M - Codex Re-Build [PREVIEW] - In 3.6 Works Edition [JULY 5th UPDATE]

[Axonn]

You've improved dramatically with your posing. Any advice you can provide?

My favorites are Alt.Doc and Sheik so far. Excellent stuff.

 

[MFMAXY]

HOLY BALLS WOW THATS AMAZING

also i was going to link you a snes captain falcon but i can't link until i have 10 posts

but them

BAM

PROJECT M OFFICIAL ALT

 

[5ully]

Wolf ones look amazing!!

 

[KMAL]

Codex your renders are so good. I really like the color scheme you chose for fox (Black and Assault colors <3). And that melee fox..... Wow.

I must go see my doctor.

 

[kenny77]

Hey Codex!
First i would like to say that you are doing a really good job! Every character has a really awesome set of costumes and its very professional looking! that is really amazing!
I would like to know if you will update on the stages you will include on your pack, and a personal request; do you think you can make a rosalina color for peach?
Thank you and keep on rocking!

 

[MagicManNo9]

You've improved dramatically with your posing. Any advice you can provide?

My favorites are Alt.Doc and Sheik so far. Excellent stuff.

Thanks! For advice, the way I've done it now is that I would take notice of the little things, like if even the tiniest detail bothers me I'll re-position over and over again until I get it right, not sure if that helps though, I also make full use of Taiko's guide and I try to keep consistency and many many backups in the new CSP's I'm working on (I usually just make a lot of template files as I progress to keep track, I never use to because I thought it took up way too much time but it has been extremely useful.)

HOLY BALLS WOW THATS AMAZING

also i was going to link you a snes captain falcon but i can't link until i have 10 posts

but them

BAM

PROJECT M OFFICIAL ALT

Oh man that SNES captain Falcon was 10/10, I was there the second it got put up, love the PMBR for what they do and gotta love Art Tuesdays~ And thanks as well!

Wolf ones look amazing!!

Glad you like it! I'll be going to do the full HQ CSP in the future so that'll defiantly be quite fun!

Codex your renders are so good. I really like the color scheme you chose for fox (Black and Assault colors <3). And that melee fox..... Wow.

I must go see my doctor.

Truly glad everyone likes Fox! Was proud doing his CSP and picking out his costumes~

Hey Codex!
First i would like to say that you are doing a really good job! Every character has a really awesome set of costumes and its very professional looking! that is really amazing!
I would like to know if you will update on the stages you will include on your pack, and a personal request; do you think you can make a rosalina color for peach?
Thank you and keep on rocking!

Firstly, thanks for the support! As always hearing that and the reaction from the CSP's make me want to work harder and harder! As for your Rosalina color request, I can do that! And it's a really neat idea to do a Rosalina theme'd peach!

As for the stages, I'm noticing a lot of people are asking about that so what I'll do is update a stage section at the end of the week I think when I get around to it!


Also sorry everyone, having a bit of a family night tonight and a tad bit ill so I'm going to be doing my update tomorrow, however I will say the update tomorrow will involve Samus, and I mean a lot of Suiting up so I'll make sure it's worth the wait!

 

[kenny77]

Thats Awesome man!!! I cannot wait to see the update
I'm hoping that the rosalina color theme will just be the color of the dress and her hairstyle and not completely changing peach face to rosalina's face. But i know you will do amazing can't wait

 

[Luddoj]

Looking through the thread I found this render

...I immediately fell in love. It's the definition of perfection.
I'm really curious to know the reason you didn't use this as your final render. I think it's amazing. You have great talent man!
I feel really bad for asking, but if you still have the model, could you upload this render but with the rest of the colors? (Fire Mario, Brown, Green, Blue, Regular)
If you have the time it would also be amazing if you managed to paint it to match the Baby Blue Mario Color from Smash Wii U/3DS
In the worst case, if you don't feel like doing all that because time and stuff, could you send me the editable file? I know at least enough photoshop to recolor renders. I would really really appreciate that (I'm a Mario main/Fan and I would be very happy to include your render in my custom build)

Even if your answer is a no, which I would completely understand, I am really enjoying the daily updates. I come back to the thread everyday without fail and I'm waiting to try your build once it's finished.
Thanks for taking the time to read all this and keep up the good work!

 

[Wander-VG]

I'm going to explode when this build comes out.

 

[MagicManNo9]

Thats Awesome man!!! I cannot wait to see the update
I'm hoping that the rosalina color theme will just be the color of the dress and her hairstyle and not completely changing peach face to rosalina's face. But i know you will do amazing can't wait

Funny enough you're not too off from what I plan to do with the peach re-color! Will be doing exactly what you said! I don't usually do requests because of the amount of time it takes to work on it, recolors aren't too difficult so I'm okay with this one (That and I like the idea haha)

Looking through the thread I found this render

...I immediately fell in love. It's the definition of perfection.
I'm really curious to know the reason you didn't use this as your final render. I think it's amazing. You have great talent man!
I feel really bad for asking, but if you still have the model, could you upload this render but with the rest of the colors? (Fire Mario, Brown, Green, Blue, Regular)
If you have the time it would also be amazing if you managed to paint it to match the Baby Blue Mario Color from Smash Wii U/3DS
In the worst case, if you don't feel like doing all that because time and stuff, could you send me the editable file? I know at least enough photoshop to recolor renders. I would really really appreciate that (I'm a Mario main/Fan and I would be very happy to include your render in my custom build)

Even if your answer is a no, which I would completely understand, I am really enjoying the daily updates. I come back to the thread everyday without fail and I'm waiting to try your build once it's finished.
Thanks for taking the time to read all this and keep up the good work!

Ohhh that render, it was an old render that I made ages ago when I first started learning to use CSP's, it's actually inspired from Hoboz thread which you can find here: http://smashboards.com/threads/hoboz-csp-garage.361408/

I'm afraid I don't have that pose anymore, as the new one is more or less the updated version, though if you're talking about the new CSP however I did whip up these:

(I used the Brawl style version mainly because my build makes use of the textures mostly aimed towards brawl)

As for the reason I didn't use this pose was because of three reasons iirc, the first being that I no longer have that pose and since I kept readjusting the camera during CSP shots I more or less messed up the positioning of the camera to get it as before, the second is because I felt the new one is better overall, I was aiming to try and match the Smash 4 style CSP here:

I knew I couldn't get it exactly right because I'm aiming to remake Smash 4 haha, just really like the poses in them and I think the third reason was his face in the old CSP was too close and looked out of place when next to everyone else.

Also glad to hear everyone visiting this thread everyday! I'll work hard to meet the quota for today with some nice updates! (Samus ones to be specific)

Though, thinking about it, for those that still want to keep the old mario Costumes:

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And without flame:

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I'm going to explode when this build comes out.

Explosions and Implosions everywhere I certainly hope! It's going to be so good once I release it!

 

[Luddoj]

Amazing. I do think your latest renders are great and the fact that you are basically rebuilding Smash 4 for Project M is awesome too. Thanks for taking the time to make those. As soon as I knew that Mario had this baby blue color I knew I had to make a texture about it, but I didn't have any CSP picture to use, at least one that matches the other CSPs used for the rest of the costumes. Now with yours I can have five exact Mario poses with 10 differents costumes to choose from!

Also, thanks for the information about your old render. I also found that there is a guide for making CSPs and I will be trying out that too.

I have been editing some BPs for you latest renders as well as your soon-to-be-replaced renders.

Spoiler

I have already made one for each and every of your renders already. They are ready to use so if you need any help with BPs or something just ask, I will be glad to help.

Thanks again for the recolors and for taking the time to answer. Keep up the good work!

 

[KMAL]

I'm ready for this update.

 

[alex6309]

I noticed you said you were using the Triforce Ganondorf mod, you should probably make sure that all your Ganondorf costumes won't crash the game when using it. IIRC, costumes with file size over 1000kb that aren't the vbrawl costumes crash the game.

Well, here's my music suggestions for different series. If I put a map name, that's just where I suggest it should be.

Spoiler

F-Zero-
Night of Big Blue(GX) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/82
Cover of Mute City's Theme (GX) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/67
Cover of Big Blue's Theme(GX) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/66
Port Town(F-zero X style) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/16143
Drivin' Through on Max(F-zero X, guitar arrange) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/30960

Mario
Good Egg Galaxy(M&S) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/5829
And literally anything from MK8

Zelda
Palace of Winds(Minish Cap, re-orchestrated) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/9539
Mid Boss(OOT, re-orchestrated) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/22611
Phantom Ganon battle(Wind Waker) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/29584
Mid Boss( Wind Waker) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/29730
The Cursed Sea(Wind Waker) Pirate Ship http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/30159
Hyrule Field (Twilight Princess, Hyrule Warriors Remix) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/47905
Skyloft(Skyward Sword, Hyrule Warriors Remix) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/47907

Sonic
Modern Green Hill Zone (Sonic Generations) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/21538

Wario
Wario's Gold Mine (M&S, I'd suggest the MKWii version but I don't think that would be as fitting for the WarioWare stage) WarioWare http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/15533

Kirby
Rainbow Resort(Kirby Air Ride) For Fountain of Dreams http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/226
Machine Passage(Kirby Air Ride) For Halberd http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/192
Top Ride - Light (Kirby Air Ride) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/239
And definitely replacing the unfitting GBA theme on Halberd with this(Same song, better remix) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/225
Boss Battle(Kirby 64) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/3033

Fire Emblem
Clash (FE: POR) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/15119
Wheeling Corby(FE:RD) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/7803
The Devoted (FE:RD) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/7806
Proud Fight (FE:RD) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/13442
A Mighty Foe(FE: POR) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/16394

Metal Gear
Battle on the Big Shell (MGS2) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/41267
Tanker Incident (MGS2) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/41425
Main Theme (MGS2) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/4969

These are just suggestions though, just a few songs that I think would fit SSBB well, sound good, and could be used to replace a number of ill fitting songs in brawl(and there's a large number of unfitting songs. Looking at you Midna's Lament, and quite a number of others.

 

[MagicManNo9]

Amazing. I do think your latest renders are great and the fact that you are basically rebuilding Smash 4 for Project M is awesome too. Thanks for taking the time to make those. As soon as I knew that Mario had this baby blue color I knew I had to make a texture about it, but I didn't have any CSP picture to use, at least one that matches the other CSPs used for the rest of the costumes. Now with yours I can have five exact Mario poses with 10 differents costumes to choose from!

Also, thanks for the information about your old render. I also found that there is a guide for making CSPs and I will be trying out that too.

I have been editing some BPs for you latest renders as well as your soon-to-be-replaced renders.

Spoiler

I have already made one for each and every of your renders already. They are ready to use so if you need any help with BPs or something just ask, I will be glad to help.

Thanks again for the recolors and for taking the time to answer. Keep up the good work!

Haha thanks! Though I will say I'm not exactly recreating Smash 4 but rather using a lot of concepts and ideas from there, Project M, Melee, basically everywhere overall to make the best build possible! That and I really like some of the choices made in Smash 4 such as the poses and interface.

And no problem, Taiko's guide is the best guide for anyone who wants to try out CSP creating~

Oh and need not worry about the BP's I've got them all prepared whenever I make CSPs, I might put them up onto the front page actually! though I do appreciate the offer and support! Just getting thanks and support from people waiting is more than I can ask for at this point~

I'm ready for this update.

Time for Samus Update!

I noticed you said you were using the Triforce Ganondorf mod, you should probably make sure that all your Ganondorf costumes won't crash the game when using it. IIRC, costumes with file size over 1000kb that aren't the vbrawl costumes crash the game.

Well, here's my music suggestions for different series. If I put a map name, that's just where I suggest it should be.

Spoiler

F-Zero-
Night of Big Blue(GX) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/82
Cover of Mute City's Theme (GX) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/67
Cover of Big Blue's Theme(GX) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/66
Port Town(F-zero X style) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/16143
Drivin' Through on Max(F-zero X, guitar arrange) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/30960

Mario
Good Egg Galaxy(M&S) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/5829
And literally anything from MK8

Zelda
Palace of Winds(Minish Cap, re-orchestrated) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/9539
Mid Boss(OOT, re-orchestrated) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/22611
Phantom Ganon battle(Wind Waker) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/29584
Mid Boss( Wind Waker) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/29730
The Cursed Sea(Wind Waker) Pirate Ship http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/30159
Hyrule Field (Twilight Princess, Hyrule Warriors Remix) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/47905
Skyloft(Skyward Sword, Hyrule Warriors Remix) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/47907

Sonic
Modern Green Hill Zone (Sonic Generations) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/21538

Wario
Wario's Gold Mine (M&S, I'd suggest the MKWii version but I don't think that would be as fitting for the WarioWare stage) WarioWare http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/15533

Kirby
Rainbow Resort(Kirby Air Ride) For Fountain of Dreams http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/226
Machine Passage(Kirby Air Ride) For Halberd http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/192
Top Ride - Light (Kirby Air Ride) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/239
And definitely replacing the unfitting GBA theme on Halberd with this(Same song, better remix) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/225
Boss Battle(Kirby 64) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/3033

Fire Emblem
Clash (FE: POR) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/15119
Wheeling Corby(FE:RD) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/7803
The Devoted (FE:RD) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/7806
Proud Fight (FE:RD) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/13442
A Mighty Foe(FE: POR) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/16394

Metal Gear
Battle on the Big Shell (MGS2) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/41267
Tanker Incident (MGS2) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/41425
Main Theme (MGS2) http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/4969

These are just suggestions though, just a few songs that I think would fit SSBB well, sound good, and could be used to replace a number of ill fitting songs in brawl(and there's a large number of unfitting songs. Looking at you Midna's Lament, and quite a number of others.

Don't you worry, I made sure all Ganon's are working perfectly fine! I am aware of the problem and looking very carefully for any little issue!

Also I really like a lot of the choices you picked out for the music! I'll be sure to take this into account when applying the music parts (Dling a few of them now as we speak)

UPDATE:

Today's a bit of a unique update tonight because I'm still decided to do two things, well showing it will be easier than putting it words so let's get to it!

And here are the costumes:

Spoiler

I did use the Smash 4 pose, which worked really well due to the other suits, to keep consistency and everything matching up compared to the previous CSP, However I wanted to do more than that (Hence the unqiue part of the update), or well take things a step further therefor I did this:

Funny how this render came out in more detail I think, it's most probably the textures, I originally wasn't sure if I should have done this or not, using the Wii U Samus made by iwantgames, I re-textured the skins with a more brawl styled feeling and amazingly they came out really well like pic below shows:

It's because of that I'm having a pick of a pickle deciding what sets of costumes I should use, the original ones I listed or:

Spoiler

(Note: I edited all of the textures from the original and added in my own to match up the brawl feeling that'll fit the build)

So my question from me to all of you is what do you think is best? I added a poll here so people can make a choice, the highest voting Samus will get into the final build whereas the others will get placed in the DLC section, either way both are here and as always I hope people like!

http://strawpoll.me/2493502

It's a late night here so I'm going to updated and go in a bit more detail tomorrow, as well as fixes here and there for Samus!

 

[King of Hoboz]

Oh, wow! I haven't been keeping up with the custom content in awhile and now that I'm back, I'm really glad to see you've taken your CSPs up a notch. These are definitely something I would put in my own build.

 

[alex6309]

Haha thanks! Though I will say I'm not exactly recreating Smash 4 but rather using a lot of concepts and ideas from there, Project M, Melee, basically everywhere overall to make the best build possible! That and I really like some of the choices made in Smash 4 such as the poses and interface.

And no problem, Taiko's guide is the best guide for anyone who wants to try out CSP creating~

Oh and need not worry about the BP's I've got them all prepared whenever I make CSPs, I might put them up onto the front page actually! though I do appreciate the offer and support! Just getting thanks and support from people waiting is more than I can ask for at this point~



Time for Samus Update!



Don't you worry, I made sure all Ganon's are working perfectly fine! I am aware of the problem and looking very carefully for any little issue!

Also I really like a lot of the choices you picked out for the music! I'll be sure to take this into account when applying the music parts (Dling a few of them now as we speak)

UPDATE:

Today's a bit of a unique update tonight because I'm still decided to do two things, well showing it will be easier than putting it words so let's get to it!

And here are the costumes:

Spoiler

I did use the Smash 4 pose, which worked really well due to the other suits, to keep consistency and everything matching up compared to the previous CSP, However I wanted to do more than that (Hence the unqiue part of the update), or well take things a step further therefor I did this:

Funny how this render came out in more detail I think, it's most probably the textures, I originally wasn't sure if I should have done this or not, using the Wii U Samus made by iwantgames, I re-textured the skins with a more brawl styled feeling and amazingly they came out really well like pic below shows:

It's because of that I'm having a pick of a pickle deciding what sets of costumes I should use, the original ones I listed or:

Spoiler

(Note: I edited all of the textures from the original and added in my own to match up the brawl feeling that'll fit the build)

So my question from me to all of you is what do you think is best? I added a poll here so people can make a choice, the highest voting Samus will get into the final build whereas the others will get placed in the DLC section, either way both are here and as always I hope people like!

http://strawpoll.me/2493502

It's a late night here so I'm going to updated and go in a bit more detail tomorrow, as well as fixes here and there for Samus!

Oh man those are really good looking Samus costumes. Might I suggest you do something like Sm4sh Bowser with Brawl-ish textures? I tried doing that and the results were fantastic. I simply mixed the Sm4sh 4 textures used for the model(the one by KTH) and the vbrawl textures. I'd love to see your take on them.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

HOLY CRAP CODEX

YOUR CSPS LIKE TRANSFORMED FROM PRETTY GREAT INTO ****ING AMAZING

WOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

HOLY CRAP THE DETAILS

THE POSES

THE TEXTURE

SO ****ING GOOD OH MY GOD

I may *MAY* replace SJS's CSPs with yours because they're just so great

I probably will because there's a lot more costume opportunity

KIRBY PLS NOW PLS NOW PLSPLSPLS

YOU NEED TO MAKE A CIRCUS KIRBY ALT

please oh my god

it would be so amazing

OH MY GOD

I HATE COPY ABILITY HATS HWY DO THEY EXIST I JUST WANT KIRBY CIRCUS ALT

cries

maybe you can go kirby adventure style and just remove the copy ability ahts and make kirby just change colors or something on some copy abilities or give him an orange tint similar to how it was in Kirby's Adventure

that would be great for alt costume potential omg

alt costumes imo are better than the kirby hats in smash since you barely even use them unless using for like 3 seconds so

pls

 

[Luddoj]

Ok so I already voted for my Samus pick. Let the best design win! Even though I think both models look amazing. I would use 5 Brawl Styled Samus and after that 5 Wii U/Other M Samus costumes to keep balance and diversity. Something like Dr.Mario/Mario.

Oh and one more thing, I read you were planning on using TKBreezy's tournament build to make this buil competitive ready, but yesterday I tried using cBliss and editing the tourney build's code to allow me to have more costumes and the game would crash when choosing a stage. Nothing would happen. Do you know why?

I had to go back to the regular code with the old stage select screen and then the game decided to work. So the new code in that tourney build cannot be used with cBliss or is it something else? If you have any clue I would really appreciate any reply to this.

Finally with reference to the BPs on the front page that'd be great!

Thanks in advance for the help and for taking the time to reply.

 

[MagicManNo9]

Oh, wow! I haven't been keeping up with the custom content in awhile and now that I'm back, I'm really glad to see you've taken your CSPs up a notch. These are definitely something I would put in my own build.

Thanks man! Good to hear from you again! Been trying to get better and better in abouts everything and it seems to be going really well so far!

Oh man those are really good looking Samus costumes. Might I suggest you do something like Sm4sh Bowser with Brawl-ish textures? I tried doing that and the results were fantastic. I simply mixed the Sm4sh 4 textures used for the model(the one by KTH) and the vbrawl textures. I'd love to see your take on them.

Glad you like them! I was actually considering that, however I had to take into account the other costumes such as dry bowser and such, though shall be a bit ahead in time but I plan to give bowser the best treatment possible!

HOLY CRAP CODEX

YOUR CSPS LIKE TRANSFORMED FROM PRETTY GREAT INTO ****ING AMAZING

WOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

HOLY CRAP THE DETAILS

THE POSES

THE TEXTURE

SO ****ING GOOD OH MY GOD

I may *MAY* replace SJS's CSPs with yours because they're just so great

I probably will because there's a lot more costume opportunity

KIRBY PLS NOW PLS NOW PLSPLSPLS

YOU NEED TO MAKE A CIRCUS KIRBY ALT

please oh my god

it would be so amazing

OH MY GOD

I HATE COPY ABILITY HATS HWY DO THEY EXIST I JUST WANT KIRBY CIRCUS ALT

cries

maybe you can go kirby adventure style and just remove the copy ability ahts and make kirby just change colors or something on some copy abilities or give him an orange tint similar to how it was in Kirby's Adventure

that would be great for alt costume potential omg

alt costumes imo are better than the kirby hats in smash since you barely even use them unless using for like 3 seconds so

pls

10/10, this here is the comment of the night for me, thanks Reserved! I might not be able to do the alt due to the amount of time it would take to re-do kirby as a whole but trust me when I say I'm going to do my best for Kirby's update when the time comes!

Ok so I already voted for my Samus pick. Let the best design win! Even though I think both models look amazing. I would use 5 Brawl Styled Samus and after that 5 Wii U/Other M Samus costumes to keep balance and diversity. Something like Dr.Mario/Mario.

Oh and one more thing, I read you were planning on using TKBreezy's tournament build to make this buil competitive ready, but yesterday I tried using cBliss and editing the tourney build's code to allow me to have more costumes and the game would crash when choosing a stage. Nothing would happen. Do you know why?

I had to go back to the regular code with the old stage select screen and then the game decided to work. So the new code in that tourney build cannot be used with cBliss or is it something else? If you have any clue I would really appreciate any reply to this.

Finally with reference to the BPs on the front page that'd be great!

Thanks in advance for the help and for taking the time to reply.

As always thanks so much Luddoj! I was considering doing the 5 Samus 5 wii U Samus, however I had to take into account the Light, Dark and PED suit Samus's which are also unique costumes in themselves.

As for the question on the build, I've not tried out TKBreezy's build with CBliss yet, though from what I understand with other builds is that you need to fill everything that's been expanded to make sure it works, I can't really help there as I've not gotten to that point yet but when I do I'll keep everyone updated on how it goes.

Ohhh and I shall update the CSP later tonight or early morning tomorrow!

UPDATE:

I don't even know why I had a suddenly feeling to work on Pit, probably because I re-watched that Palutena trailer again and got hyped knowing Smash4 on 3DS is coming at the end of the month~

Anyway without further ado:

Amazingly this pose took about a couple of hours to get right, mainly because the new Pit in Smash4 is using his Uprising model, anyway this is the render of Pit!

And now for the costumes:

Spoiler

I wasn't entirely happy with the Mirage Pit costume so I made my own edit fixing the colors as you can see here:

Before:

After:

In regards to anyone who asks, I plan to replace the pink or grey pit with SNES pit model made by Pik when 3.5 comes out.

Also for an extra touch I gave Pittoo/Dark Pit a small change to the face to match his character/personality, I am actually going to do a Dark Pit render, but only when Smash4 comes out and we get a much better look at him.

That gets Pit + costumes done tonight~

 

[Mr.GamBit]

Holy moly! Where to start... Sheik, Wolf, Samus, heck all the new renders, CSP's and costume choices! Your might build might excite me more than Sm4sh to be honest. All your love and dedication shows! It has been said already but your growth is astonishing. Your research and experimentation is paying off in a great way.

Regarding DLC, how is that going to work? Personally, I prefer the Ditto random portrait. It's Nintendo, whereas the question mark isn't. The costumes you originally chose for Samus are better than the Sm4sh recolors in my opinion. Alt costumes > recolors (if done right). When you pick/edit alts they're definitely done right!

Were you ever considering swapping recolors of alternate costumes for original alternates? (not talking about scratch-builds) Case in point: Toon Link. Minish Cap and NES vs Outset recolors. I was thinking about Boxing Donkey Kong, Melee Ganondorf, Melee Link, Melee Fox, WarioWare Wario and Dr. Mario. By all means, this is merely food for thought, not asking you to change all of this anytime soon. Just wondering what your stance is on this.

One of my pet peeves regarding Pikachu and Jigglypuff is that they're always the same color throughout the Smash series. It might because of Smash64 but it rubs me the wrong way. All the other Pokemon have recolors. Wouldn't mind seeing a blue Pikachu or a red Jigglypuff.

You're one of the few modders who pretty much 11/10 for me regarding costume selection (judging the sole stage picture I'm having no doubts about your selection in that area). No character swaps/transformations but cosplays and well done inspirations (eg Peach and Sonic).

It's late so I might be forgetting something...

Either way, keep up the amazing work! Kudos!

 

[Luddoj]

Amazing job on those Pit CSPs! Great as always, you really have great talent.
I wanted to ask, do you have any pre-established order in which you model characters? Or you just start editing them if you feel like it?

Oh and as I commented before, I tried editing my own models for my custom CSPs! I'm really a noob and have a lot to learn, so I wanted to hear some feedback from someone with experience, I really hope you don't mind.

I noticed I didn't have any "decent" CSPs for Lucas so I thought "Now is the perfect time to try that BrawlBox model thing I read about" and so, here are the results:

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I know that the lights are weird and that it still needs a lot of work to become at least usable, it's just that I made these as a test, just to see how things would turn out. I'm still learning how to edit them in Photoshop to make them look more polished and professional. Any tips? I could really use some of those.

I guess I'll keep the model for when I improve my skills.
Oh and one more thing... How exactly do you get the textures for every character's recolors? (the ones that come by default in Brawl/Project M) I would like to keep the original costumes and just add some more, but since I need the texture file in order to create the CSP I can't edit those.

Sorry for asking so many questions, but your work and dedication really inspired me to start working on my build and maybe creating content other people can enjoy just as much as I enjoy your renders and CSPs.

Keep up the good work!

 

[MagicManNo9]

Holy moly! Where to start... Sheik, Wolf, Samus, heck all the new renders, CSP's and costume choices! Your might build might excite me more than Sm4sh to be honest. All your love and dedication shows! It has been said already but your growth is astonishing. Your research and experimentation is paying off in a great way.

Regarding DLC, how is that going to work? Personally, I prefer the Ditto random portrait. It's Nintendo, whereas the question mark isn't. The costumes you originally chose for Samus are better than the Sm4sh recolors in my opinion. Alt costumes > recolors (if done right). When you pick/edit alts they're definitely done right!

Were you ever considering swapping recolors of alternate costumes for original alternates? (not talking about scratch-builds) Case in point: Toon Link. Minish Cap and NES vs Outset recolors. I was thinking about Boxing Donkey Kong, Melee Ganondorf, Melee Link, Melee Fox, WarioWare Wario and Dr. Mario. By all means, this is merely food for thought, not asking you to change all of this anytime soon. Just wondering what your stance is on this.

One of my pet peeves regarding Pikachu and Jigglypuff is that they're always the same color throughout the Smash series. It might because of Smash64 but it rubs me the wrong way. All the other Pokemon have recolors. Wouldn't mind seeing a blue Pikachu or a red Jigglypuff.

You're one of the few modders who pretty much 11/10 for me regarding costume selection (judging the sole stage picture I'm having no doubts about your selection in that area). No character swaps/transformations but cosplays and well done inspirations (eg Peach and Sonic).

It's late so I might be forgetting something...

Either way, keep up the amazing work! Kudos!

Why thank you man! Good to hear people are hyped for this! (Funny enough the hype from Smash4 and PM 3.5 as well as the hype from fans is the very reason in what gets me working so hard on this build, it's awesome!)

I'm still unsure how DLC will work, what I plan to do is that I'll provide the CSP + BP and such and link the costume to the Vault's link, unless it's my own edits, which I'll then go through every owner and ask them for permission to do so, but that'll be worked on after the first release.

And I was recently looking into Samus funny enough and was thinking the same thing, the Smash4 edits I made seem to stick out more than the original, I'll be planning to re-work Samus overall near the end I think giving me more time to think on what's the best option.

The original idea of the random icon was due to this:

icon from Smash4's character select, down below you'll see an edit of it:

Though the idea of using Ditto was still on the book so I kept Ditto in as a DLC, I'll have to think on what's the best idea of for it, once all character CSP's are done I can look at the character select to see if it blends in well or not.

In regards to the swapping of recolors, that's a bit of thing I was thinking about for a while now, see the issue overall is that PM has coded it in as alternate team colors, this build I'm working on for Toon Link will have his own costumes but when 3.02 comes out I have to consider what to do overall on it.

Funny about the Pikachu/Jigglypuff dilemma, it's a split between two, some people prefer different colors and others prefer the costumes I'm using the original colors overall however I am going to be adding in a pack for both of them to have alternate colors matching the pallets because I understand people want a mix of both so I'm taking into account everything.

Also hearing 11/10 really makes me more and more confident! And I'm really glad you're liking everything so far, (I actually have a document taking in everyone's input and making notes everyday so this kind of input really helps me a lot!) And I'll do my best!

Amazing job on those Pit CSPs! Great as always, you really have great talent.
I wanted to ask, do you have any pre-established order in which you model characters? Or you just start editing them if you feel like it?

Oh and as I commented before, I tried editing my own models for my custom CSPs! I'm really a noob and have a lot to learn, so I wanted to hear some feedback from someone with experience, I really hope you don't mind.

I noticed I didn't have any "decent" CSPs for Lucas so I thought "Now is the perfect time to try that BrawlBox model thing I read about" and so, here are the results:

Spoiler

I know that the lights are weird and that it still needs a lot of work to become at least usable, it's just that I made these as a test, just to see how things would turn out. I'm still learning how to edit them in Photoshop to make them look more polished and professional. Any tips? I could really use some of those.

I guess I'll keep the model for when I improve my skills.
Oh and one more thing... How exactly do you get the textures for every character's recolors? (the ones that come by default in Brawl/Project M) I would like to keep the original costumes and just add some more, but since I need the texture file in order to create the CSP I can't edit those.

Sorry for asking so many questions, but your work and dedication really inspired me to start working on my build and maybe creating content other people can enjoy just as much as I enjoy your renders and CSPs.

Keep up the good work!

I pretty much decide randomly, I take a look and think what needs to be done, at the very least I make it a target to get costumes + CSPs done once a day to keep progress going.

I don't mind giving out advice, I might not the best for providing help because every character I work on has a unique method of doing things but I can certainly try!

In regards to lucas, it's a really good start, I recommend looking into levels and overlaying portraits to give out a nicer rougher look, also that last lucas costume seems to have more lighting on him than the other ones, also I recommend making a template file for CSPs, in case you ever go back and need to change a few or keep consistency, it's really useful! I hope that helps!

Oh in regards to the original costumes you can get them here (In the brawl vault under resources under Data Partition 2):

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4vhNdf69qaSZ0N0MnBjOXFYMU0#

I also recommend using http://www.ssbwiki.com/Palette_swap_(SSBB) as a reference as that link provides the file number for character costumes!

Also no problem, I'm glad to hear this build is inspiring people more and more, makes all of this work worth it at the end of the day!


UPDATE:

Ness Update, I based his Render on the new Smash4 pose, I also realized that the Smash4 Ness has a more round head and pure black eyes, anyway that's the render! So and let's get to CSPs:

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I kept the original costumes like before so not a huge difference aside from the CSP, however I added a little touch to the CSPs, similar to Mario's fire:

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Might not be much but as I've said before, every detail counts! Hope you all like and will be doing another update later today most likely.

 

[MagicManNo9]

UPDATE:

Marth Render and costume fixes for tonight, I was never 100% happy with the old CSPs and a couple of costumes I wanted to update/fixes, I did my best to get the Smash4 pose as close as possible.

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I updated using Marth Awakening 2.0 and fixed a couple of textures, I realized I was originally using V.1 awakening at the time and plan to replace Sigurd's recolor with a new one when 3.5 is released. Hope you all like!

EDIT: Updated Awakening Marth with new HQ textures

 

[Aunt Jemima]

THAT MARTH CSP
THAT NESS CSP

SO BEAUTIFULLL

MAH GAWD

Anyways, I suggested this in like a few posts back, but in a very... special way. Would you possibly think about having it so instead of using the Copy Ability hats, change it to how Kirby's Adventure worked? That game had no Copy Ability hats, and the color of Kirby just changed. When you're using the default (Pink) Kirby skin, some Copy Abilities such as Ice Climbers will change his skin color to blue, etc. and when using any other colors, you'll get an orange-ish tint to you. The only reason that I bring this up is that it would expand the alternate costumes Kirby can use by a ton, and actually allow him to use costumes instead of just palette swaps. This specific method (Kirby's Adventure style) would make it work, as it would actually make sense - if Kirby's Adventure did have Copy Ability hats, then I wouldn't be suggesting this, but it didn't. The only problem that could possibly arise is that Kirby may look a bit weird doing some animations without the hats, but I don't think that would matter. Going by that, one could say he looks odd in Kirby's Adventure, but he didn't. I don't think any Copy Abilities in Smash actually rely on the hat for something, so hopefully it could possibly work.

I'm not sure, you can decide. I'd just really love to have alternate Kirby costumes instead of just palette swaps, haha.

Also, could you make a Meta Knight skin for Kirby such as how it is in Smash 4?

ALSO WHY DO SOME COSTUMES USE AWAKENING MARTH AND SOME DONT

IT LOOKS INCONSISTENT CODEX11111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

 

[MagicManNo9]

THAT MARTH CSP
THAT NESS CSP

SO BEAUTIFULLL

MAH GAWD

Anyways, I suggested this in like a few posts back, but in a very... special way. Would you possibly think about having it so instead of using the Copy Ability hats, change it to how Kirby's Adventure worked? That game had no Copy Ability hats, and the color of Kirby just changed. When you're using the default (Pink) Kirby skin, some Copy Abilities such as Ice Climbers will change his skin color to blue, etc. and when using any other colors, you'll get an orange-ish tint to you. The only reason that I bring this up is that it would expand the alternate costumes Kirby can use by a ton, and actually allow him to use costumes instead of just palette swaps. This specific method (Kirby's Adventure style) would make it work, as it would actually make sense - if Kirby's Adventure did have Copy Ability hats, then I wouldn't be suggesting this, but it didn't. The only problem that could possibly arise is that Kirby may look a bit weird doing some animations without the hats, but I don't think that would matter. Going by that, one could say he looks odd in Kirby's Adventure, but he didn't. I don't think any Copy Abilities in Smash actually rely on the hat for something, so hopefully it could possibly work.

I'm not sure, you can decide. I'd just really love to have alternate Kirby costumes instead of just palette swaps, haha.

Also, could you make a Meta Knight skin for Kirby such as how it is in Smash 4?

ALSO WHY DO SOME COSTUMES USE AWAKENING MARTH AND SOME DONT

IT LOOKS INCONSISTENT CODEX11111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Thanks! Working hard on those CSPs every day!

As for the Kirby thing, it's on the cards but I ain't going to do that for the first release as I've said, mainly because it would take too much time for me personally from the build and I don't mind the Kirby hats overall, but with that said I do think it's a fantastic idea but it would be a big project in itself due to having to then create 9 other Kirby costumes with hats and picking out every kirby color among 45 other characters which is my concern at this point in time when trying to get the release out.

Mainly a time scale reason overall, that and I have a lot of things and mini projects planned before I can get to doing big stuff like that .

Ohhh, though I will be adding a Meta Knight Kirby Skin like in Smash 4 if that helps!

Also correction~ The last Marth costume is the Awakening one, the first three are the Shadow Dragon outfit he uses~ I wanted to keep the original Marth costume and I know Melee fans love the original, purple, black and white overall hence why I kept them, though I agree it does look out of place, I wonder what everyone else thinks on it?

 

[alex6309]

Thanks! Working hard on those CSPs every day!

As for the Kirby thing, it's on the cards but I ain't going to do that for the first release as I've said, mainly because it would take too much time for me personally from the build and I don't mind the Kirby hats overall, but with that said I do think it's a fantastic idea but it would be a big project in itself due to having to then create 9 other Kirby costumes with hats and picking out every kirby color among 45 other characters which is my concern at this point in time when trying to get the release out.

Mainly a time scale reason overall, that and I have a lot of things and mini projects planned before I can get to doing big stuff like that .

Ohhh, though I will be adding a Meta Knight Kirby Skin like in Smash 4 if that helps!

Also correction~ The last Marth costume is the Awakening one, the first three are the Shadow Dragon outfit he uses~ I wanted to keep the original Marth costume and I know Melee fans love the original, purple, black and white overall hence why I kept them, though I agree it does look out of place, I wonder what everyone else thinks on it?

One idea could be making 3 Marth packs. One is just vBrawl with maybe only 1 Shadow Dragon Marth while the other could be the other way around. The 3rd pack would be the current one.

 

[MagicManNo9]

One idea could be making 3 Marth packs. One is just vBrawl with maybe only 1 Shadow Dragon Marth while the other could be the other way around. The 3rd pack would be the current one.

Oh wow, thanks man! Three packs does actually seem like the best idea, so I'm going to use that idea I think!

UPDATE:

I said in the previous post that I used V.2 of Awakening Marth, but out of curiosity I mixed in the textures from the Lucina mod by and re-worked him a bit.

Just to clarify, I plan to ask before I release it but this is the result:

Before:

After:

For better reference here are two render comparisons:

Before:

After:

Anywho, time for sleep because it's getting late~

 

[theTRUEchamp]

Hey Codex, could you PM a link to that blue and brown Fox skin? Thanks in advance!

 

[BravoGangUS]

Really like the Ness CSPs, especially the ones that have that effect near his hand

As for Marth.........needs more Lucina.

 

[Scarlet Link]

Man i was all hyped for Smash 4, but now all i want it this! Seriously this build looks so amazing and very professional!

 

[Friesnchip]

I was intrigued by your 'Skyward Sheik' on Brawl Vault and decided to take another look at this thread after a long while, and I have to say I'm quite impressed with your new character renders. This increase in quality is definitely emanating that sleek and professional design that you're going for; I'm most certainly looking forward to future updates.

 

[ImThatGuy]

This project is top notch, really love the CSS in particular, the borders around the individual boxes look nice, I was wondering if you were planning on doing a Galacta Knight skin for Meta Knight, because honestly, these are some of the nicest looking renders out there, ESPECIALLY NINTEN AND AWAKENING MARTH.

 

[thatoneguy1]

quick little suggestion, if you have space for fox in alts then you should get his snes costume. It would be cool for nostalgic value.

 

[Hibernian99]

Sorry to be a n00b but when can I download this

 

[alex6309]

I got a cool idea for what you could do for metal textures. Maybe you could give specific characters certain metal textures, if you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGzEYgNjRgc

Luigi could be silver and Peach could be pink gold

 

[kenny77]

hey codex! the project m team just announced that pikachu alternate is pikachu wearing red's hat sideways. so im wondering are u going to change one of pikachu's costumes? also, what do you think about adding in the costume from the 'Hyrule Warriors' game?

 

[MagicManNo9]

Hey Codex, could you PM a link to that blue and brown Fox skin? Thanks in advance!

Will send you a PM!

Really like the Ness CSPs, especially the ones that have that effect near his hand

As for Marth.........needs more Lucina.

Funny you should mention, I just found out someone is working on well... I'll leave this here and you'll understand:

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Lucina Hype is so Real right now!

Man i was all hyped for Smash 4, but now all i want it this! Seriously this build looks so amazing and very professional!

Thanks! It's going to get even better with this update I have!

I was intrigued by your 'Skyward Sheik' on Brawl Vault and decided to take another look at this thread after a long while, and I have to say I'm quite impressed with your new character renders. This increase in quality is definitely emanating that sleek and professional design that you're going for; I'm most certainly looking forward to future updates.

If you think my renders are great now just you wait and see what I got in store tonight! Going all out and thanking you!

This project is top notch, really love the CSS in particular, the borders around the individual boxes look nice, I was wondering if you were planning on doing a Galacta Knight skin for Meta Knight, because honestly, these are some of the nicest looking renders out there, ESPECIALLY NINTEN AND AWAKENING MARTH.

Galacta Knight confirmed to be in Meta Knights costume! Also glad you like the CSP's! Because I'm going to be doing a whole new update in regards to them!

quick little suggestion, if you have space for fox in alts then you should get his snes costume. It would be cool for nostalgic value.

I'll be sure to add that costume to the DLC optional pack! Loving that costume!

Sorry to be a n00b but when can I download this

Not out yet, still being worked on, working hard to get it out there though!

I got a cool idea for what you could do for metal textures. Maybe you could give specific characters certain metal textures, if you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGzEYgNjRgc

Luigi could be silver and Peach could be pink gold

Oh wow! That's a really neat idea! I'm going look into seeing if I can do that!

hey codex! the project m team just announced that pikachu alternate is pikachu wearing red's hat sideways. so im wondering are u going to change one of pikachu's costumes? also, what do you think about adding in the costume from the 'Hyrule Warriors' game?

Perfect timing! I was actually really happy when I saw Red's Hat Pikachu and shall be using that for the red colour!

In regards to Hyrule Warriors, I have Link using his Hyrule Warriors outfit, I really want to work on Hyrule Warriors version of Sheik and Zelda if people want me to spend time doing that?

HD CSP UPDATE:

I saw three day update since I've been away the last two days! But let me just say I've been the mountains to train hone my skills (Not literally but you know what I mean)



First thing's first,
Sorry for a late update! I was sort of away but at the same time been learning some new things, as I've said before I'm going all out on this build and so I took it to a whole new level.

MARIO -
CSP's:

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OPTIONAL:

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DR MARIO ALT:

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LUIGI -
CSP's:

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PEACH -
CSP's:

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SHEIK -
CSP's:

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FOX -
CSP's:

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NESS -
CSP's:

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PIT -
CSP's:

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MARTH -
CSP's:

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I want to add a huge shoutout to @Taiko for helping me set up and learn a whole new method for rendering and creating new CSP's! Its' truly mind blowing when you see the final result! Truly thankful he helped me practice this!

ADDITIONAL UPDATE NOTES/PLANS:

FOR DLC: DLC optional choice CSP's and whatnot I'll be doing after the first release, I'll update a few like Mario's but going to focus on getting the main build up and running, for people who want to suggest, I'll take it to consideration and place the idea into my DLC plans!

^ Also to add for I showed Mario's DLC optional costume to show what it'll look like when I get around to working on that, it'll be the second thing I do after the first release.

Mario:
- Will be adding fire CSP next for him, other than that it's all good.

Peach:
- May replace Sunshine Peach with a new costume I'm working on, reason being is that Sunshine peach's shoulders look really out of place, that or I may rework a new model myself as well as fixing little things here and there.
- Alternate optional CSP poses for Shadow Peach and Sunshine Peach planned.

Marth:
- Awakening Marth Textures updated, got a couple of things to fix here and there, plan to replace Sigurd's costume with the 3.5 Armour when that comes out.
- Also Plan alternate poses for Ike Marth, Sigurd Marth and possibly melee Marth, these will be optional.

Fox:
- Plan to re-do alternate Fox Melee CSP (the one with the gun, Melee style)

Samus:
- Taken down, plan to re-work and decide again on what to do with Samus overall.

That's all for the update tonight! I wanted to point out that thanks to Taiko working with this method of CSP's makes my week of work done in roughly two days (every CSP you see above I did in the span of a day overall, so CSP creating is so much faster for me and makes work speed so much faster! I can't thank him enough!

Also here's a link to the HD renders of the CSP's so far! Hope people like!

http://imgur.com/a/1KsBF#1

 

[BravoGangUS]

Funny you should mention, I just found out someone is working on well... I'll leave this here and you'll understand:

Lucina Hype is so Real right now!

Hopefully this means Lucina optional DLC from you in the future
and on the topic of Lucina...

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this NEEDS to be an alt costume in Smash 4


Can't wait to see how the CSPs for all the other characters turn out.


For Link you should include Fierce Deity Link (either as DLC or in the actual build), looks cool and it's been confirmed to be in Smash 4 as well.
And I never really play Sheik but...Fierce Deity Sheik looks like an awesome alt

 

[MrMcTurtleurtle]

O.o there's so much to this build its beautiful I can't wait til its release. Thank you for working so long and hard on it!

 

[Luddoj]

I was a little worried when Smashboards crashed and we weren't hearing any news or updates from you. I checked the thread at least 4 times a day during this 3 days (?) of absense. However, I must say, the wait was REALLY worth it! You went and completely rebuild and re-made your already amazing CSPs to make them even better?! Talk about dedication and compromise!

They look awesome! As a Mario Main, the first time I found this thread and started looking through the CSPs I was so happy with how they looked but now I'm here thinking how you have been able to create even better content as time has been passing by. I'm sure you haven't reached your limit yet and I´m already very excited to see the next set of amazing CSPs you have in store!

All in all, I want to thank you for constantly showing that you do care about what your "fans" (at least I consider myself as one) have to say. The fact that you reply and answer to all the suggestions and requests we are giving to you even though you are working on the build and taking care of your daily routine is great. I'm really looking forward to the release of this build and to seeing more of your work in the future, when Version 3.5 releases and gives you more reasons to keep innovating and improving.

Welcome back and thanks!