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[RAJiN]

I started playing with marth about a month ago n was doing pretty good especially playing against fastfallers but now he picks zelda and ***** with just a couple fair combos....it doesnt look like he uses much effort so wtf........any advice?

 

[Tajem]

Zelda's floaty before turning into Sheik. So the f-throw chain grab would work to get her to the edge. Watch the DI, wavedash into an F-smash. Rinse, repeat. Ken combo will work too, I'm sure.

 

[Ndot]

errr........don't run into the fair combos? Simple as that. Dodge and mindgame the zelda. DI away from the fair combos. I duno, just do those along with your advanced techniques if you got any, and Zelda isn't hard. >_>

 

[RaynEX]

Fthrow isn't a proper chaingrab. Its a pseudo-grab, and only works until your opponent realizes all they have to do is smash di away from you.

Focus on fthrows to WD utilts or fsmashes. Make sure to space those fair; one can link to like 8 more. haha.

 

[RAJiN]

sounds good, all things I haven't tried yet....thanx alot

 

[Puffin]

Fthrow isn't a proper chaingrab. Its a pseudo-grab, and only works until your opponent realizes all they have to do is smash di away from you.

Focus on fthrows to WD utilts or fsmashes. Make sure to space those fair; one can link to like 8 more. haha.

Just to clarify, that's regular DI, not smash DI. The only throw I know of that can be smash DIed is Jigg's Fthrow.

 

[Retroking2000]

lol zelda **unsubscribes**

 

[knightpraetor]

lol, umm, one piece of advice..over-aggressive marths tend to get *****..play defensive, bait and punish..

 

[huhi]

i dont play agains zelda that often but whenever a sheik turns into zelda i love to Nair and yeah the fgrab chain works u can probably use a fsmash after one so it isnt that hard

 

[knightpraetor]

just don't jump into the **** and you should be fine;p

 

[Hydde]

Mindgame your approaches,proceed with caution, always always be ready for the fair,,,since it puts marth in difficult situations very early. The marth fairs are definitely your best bet, but you need to see how you connect them. The fthrow works also in early % to combo. The key is to wait for an opening, and once you find it, you must rag up as much damage as posible since marth can combo her pretty well.

You basically must be aware of her fair, her dash attack and stay away of her grabs, which usually will end in a down throw+fair/bair. It can be dodged but you must be very aware of where you are DIng. One wrong DI and you will eat a fair/bair after the throw for sure.

Once she is out of the stage, you must capitalize or presure her in that moment since she has a tough time returning because of her lack of movement in the air.


I dont know if your zelda foe try to use this, but anyways: I use zelda just for fun sometimes... and one thing that works wonders for me is to spam her short hop double fair, Most people dont expect the second **** kick in the air and tend to release their shield to counter. You must be aware of this also.

 

[Teczer0]

O_O ^^^ thats a lot of typing for zelda O_O.

Just d-tilt run away make them f-air then f-air them back.

Its not too hard since all zelda does is... well.... f-air/b-air...

She is too predictable of a character.

 

[Bailey]

Sheild Camp them at another side of the stage when they approach use a combination of empty short hops and actual SHFFL'd F-Airs. Most of the time an F-Air can lead straight to a tip.

 

[Fade016]

Zelda's floaty before turning into Sheik. So the f-throw chain grab would work to get her to the edge. Watch the DI, wavedash into an F-smash. Rinse, repeat. Ken combo will work too, I'm sure.

yea ken combo should work nicly against zelda Its easier to pull of on her. Well at least for me anyways.

 

[Corax]

bait and keep her in the air.
Her fair/bair can't save her when your below her.

Oh and never underestimate her recovery.