Problems with approaching(let's find a solution for this big problem)

[suzuki brawl]

I really like to play with DK ,but I have some problems with approaching someone,It's easy to get punished when your miss something,I tried to use bair,down B,f tilt but it doen't work very well.How can I beat a defensive opponent with a projectile?

 

[Leprechaun_Drunk]

i've had the same problems approaching wolf, snake, and falco. try using a grounded spinning kong to approach, the SA in the first few frames helps beat projectiles that an f-tilt is too slow for.

 

[goodoldganon]

Double b-air is also a decent approach. Also, the down-b is all right due to the deceptive range.

 

[Brahma]

If you can't get past a projecyile like Wolf blaster, just Fjump over and use a Bair as you get close.

 

[spades]

dbl bair is too good
i also like to use his ftilt to cancel the projectiles out

 

[Jmex]

If you cant get past the campers, then just counter pick the stage. Dont have a flat stage, and make sure you have platforms to get to them. Also a counter pick stage such as rainbow cruise will do well, since they cant stay in one spot for long.

 

[suzuki brawl]

d tilt is also good isn't

 

[Crizthakidd]

double bair does like 30 % T)____cries________(T

 

[Nicktendo]

spammy/campy toon links are so hard to approach x_x

 

[trafficwarden99]

Ha I just fought a T. Link at the FFA tourney Sunday.
I think I did okay for my first time fighting one.

But then the 3D and ROB in brackets were weird. I had no idea how to approach them.
Need 3D and ROB help. :/

 

[Nicktendo]

did all the toon link do is camp? because im just refering to one on FD that will just throw projecitles and run away the whole time

thats a pain to get through...

 

[trafficwarden99]

LoL yep. And he had all his friends coaching him to "keep camping." I think on FD is the one I lost. So TL messed up my perfect bracket to 8-1!!! LAME.
Power shielding worked for a while but it got boring.
Luckily he did go aerial when I got close.

 

[Nicktendo]

oh wait so you were at family fun arcade? whats your tag? you play DK to? is he your main

I didnt go, but I know alot of players that were there and am a Socal dk to

 

[trafficwarden99]

Yeah the Family Fun Arcade was my first brawl tourny since the first week brawl came out. Well on brackets I go by Dangerous Person but I usually make random tags when I play matches.
And yep my main is D.K.
LoL my secondary is Ganon but I think I need to change that.

 

[Leprechaun_Drunk]

hmmm, how about roll roll roll and roll some more until your in grab range, grab them, to any number of possibilities. dthrow to ftilt to dash or another grab, but your gonna wanna keep them close. cargo to uthrow to uair/aerial attacks, cargo to dthrow and double bair. i think incorporating grabs more while fighting the campier characters might help. then again, lots of rolling is easily punished.

 

[Brahma]

Toon Link arrow and boomerangs can be Ftilt and Bair cancelled, so normal approach of Ftilt and Bair works fine. It's just the bomb you have to watch out for. You can airdodge catch it, shield, or roll. Just be careful about rolling towards because TL will be on top of you after he throws a bomb.

DDD Waddle Dess can be blocked the same way. Just Bair and kick them away. Be careful not to Bair near the ground near him, or you risk shield grab, and we all konw what happens then. UpB is a nice approach on him when you get close, he won't be able to shield the whole thing, and you can rack up 15-20% easily at early %.

Against ROB you're just going to have to get good at predicting then blocking/dodging the laser and gyro.

 

[trafficwarden99]

Coolness.
I was noticing my forward tilt can be shield grabbed even when I spaced it.
I think I just need more practice in some of these matchups.

 

[suzuki brawl]

Coolness.
I was noticing my forward tilt can be shield grabbed even when I spaced it.
I think I just need more practice in some of these matchups.

when a play against sheik,my friends grab me in anything that I do
hey guys,the double bair that your're talking about,is in a full hop right?

 

[trafficwarden99]

No way short hop double bair.
I think you do like a full hop triple bair.

 

[Brahma]

Yes, both Ftilt and Bair can be shield grabbed by certain characters. Most notably TL/Link, Olimar, IC's.

 

[Nicktendo]

Toon Link arrow and boomerangs can be Ftilt and Bair cancelled, so normal approach of Ftilt and Bair works fine. It's just the bomb you have to watch out for. You can airdodge catch it, shield, or roll. Just be careful about rolling towards because TL will be on top of you after he throws a bomb.

DDD Waddle Dess can be blocked the same way. Just Bair and kick them away. Be careful not to Bair near the ground near him, or you risk shield grab, and we all konw what happens then. UpB is a nice approach on him when you get close, he won't be able to shield the whole thing, and you can rack up 15-20% easily at early %.

Against ROB you're just going to have to get good at predicting then blocking/dodging the laser and gyro.

nice yeah I didnt have any experience vs toon link yet so thats great and is alot easier to deal with than I thought.

yeah ftilt and dash attack also stop waddles woot

I gotta start using Up b on shields ( I never do) more it is pretty **** isnt it

 

[suzuki brawl]

i'm using up b to approach and it's working well

 

[Leprechaun_Drunk]

up-B on a shield to a quickly landed foward-b on = screwed opposition (at least of they're greater than 50%)

 

[Brahma]

With UpB, get good at using it from a dash to ensure the maximum amount of hits and distance. The way I do it is do a quarter circle from forward to up and hit B. If you do it too slow, DK skids and you don't get the same momentum.

Afterwards I find Ftilt and Dsmash work very well, as does shield and grab if they have a quick aerial.

 

[itsthebigfoot]

double bair is one of the best approaches in the game, on top of that you goy ftilt for every non spacie spammer

 

[Brahma]

Don't forget that Ftilt and even Bair are shield grabable by some characters. Against TL both can be grabbed fairly easy. Always mix up your Bair game with stuff like SH Bair, >B and SH Bair, punch. Also, DK can DI over a lot of smaller characters after SH Bair to avoid shieldgrab.