Praise the Sun! - Solaire of Astora for Smash Switch

Reila

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I want to disgress though.. Solaire is more iconic that chosen undead, but i don't think chosen undead is not iconic... at least the "elite knight armor" one is pretty iconic, being in tons of fan media and being basically the posterboy.
I respect your opinion, but I would list about ten things only from Dark Souls (excluding Demon's, II and III) more iconic than the Chosen Undead. The fact Chosen Undead doesn't speak, doesn't have a default look, etc makes them not that iconic.

However, they wouldn't be the first "avatar" in the game and Villager also doesn't speak (and Villager wasn't exactly the most iconic fellow from AC) so nothing would that mean the Chosen Undead couldn't be playable instead of Solaire.
 

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I respect your opinion, but I would list about ten things only from Dark Souls (excluding Demon's, II and III) more iconic than the Chosen Undead. The fact Chosen Undead doesn't speak, doesn't have a default look, etc makes them not that iconic.

However, they wouldn't be the first "avatar" in the game and Villager also doesn't speak (and Villager wasn't exactly the most iconic fellow from AC) so nothing would that mean the Chosen Undead couldn't be playable instead of Solaire.
I think the thing that makes the Chosen Undead work less compared to other avatar characters (Villager, Robin, Corrin) is that they all have a more defined move pool to have. Villager does what they do in their games, and Robin uses the equipment they can use in their game. The problem with the Chosen Undead though is that they'd have such a vast ocean of moves they could pull from, that they wouldn't really be doing things "right". Since there's so many different weapons, items and armour sets in the game, I feel it wouldn't really work to take only a handful of things that some players might not even use in their Souls playthrough. While Solaire on the other hand, has a distinct look, weapons and attacks, so, if he was put into Smash, he'd feel like Solaire, while the Chosen Undead would only feel like a specific version of them, not the whole thing.

TL;DR Solaire just works better cause he's more grounded in terms of actual character and what he can do.
 

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I will stand by my statement that Solaire works better because he is more iconic, the closest to a mascot the Souls series has.
 
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I will stand by my statement that Solaire works better because he is more iconic, the closest to a mascot the Souls series has.
I think that's reasonable. He is the one with the Amiibo, after all :4pacman:

This may have been discussed, already, but how do people picture Solaire working in Smash? Coming from Dark Souls, his attacks would probably be pretty committal, but really punishing to land. I imagine him using movement/rolling/blocking/parrying for a patient bait-and-punish style. He also needs a Praise The Sun taunt. Thoughts?
 

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I will stand by my statement that Solaire works better because he is more iconic, the closest to a mascot the Souls series has.
i never said the contrary, i agree with that. what i was saying is that chosen undead ispresent on gamer's mind, at least as a knight with sword and shield and elite knight armor.
I think that's reasonable. He is the one with the Amiibo, after all :4pacman:

This may have been discussed, already, but how do people picture Solaire working in Smash? Coming from Dark Souls, his attacks would probably be pretty committal, but really punishing to land. I imagine him using movement/rolling/blocking/parrying for a patient bait-and-punish style. He also needs a Praise The Sun taunt. Thoughts?
as ivesaid before.. i wonder if giving him the ability to shield an walk while keeping shield raised would make him feel instantly very darksoulish, and immediatly make him super unique with a clear gimmick that makes him stand out from other swordies.

other systems that could be interesting attacks with great properties on the ground but with a stamina bar. and an estus flask mechanic. also I picture him with a better ground game.
 

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Of all FromSoftware reps, Solaire probably has the best chance. And Sakurai has written about Dark Souls before. Implementing FromSoft and Hidetaka Miyazaki's long-time gameplay philosophy into Solaire would make for a very interesting character; hard to master and easy to die, but extremely fun to play as (and maybe play against?). My personal From pick would be a Bloodborne rep, but we know it won't happen. Will it, Sony?

How would a Solaire trailer play out?

And speaking of From, anyone here played Sekiro?
 

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I've personally imagined that a Solaire trailer would start with a Mii Fighter in a Chosen Undead costume encountering and struggling with a boss battle (Rathalos?), with Solaire coming to the Mii Fighter's rescue. Extra points if it's initially disguised as a trailer for a mere Mii costume.
 

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I've personally imagined that a Solaire trailer would start with a Mii Fighter in a Chosen Undead costume encountering and struggling with a boss battle (Rathalos?), with Solaire coming to the Mii Fighter's rescue. Extra points if it's initially disguised as a trailer for a mere Mii costume.
better yet... we get news of a new bossrush mode, with a couple of extra bosses, and we get a trailer presenting those bosses, (say eggman and Giratina, to name a few)...

after a super cool trailer featuring said bosses, we see whichever hero is trying to take down them and struggling when they find the golden sign... and bamf, Soliare hijacks the bosses trailer.

i think that it would work better if the darksouls property isnt revealed until the very end. smash trailers love to have some kind of surprise. think of joker... we were expecting a smash reveal trailer... we welcomed new persona games trailers... but we never put 2 on 2 together until the persona trailer got revealed to be a smash trailer.
 
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