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Potential Konami Reps

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Konami's history with Nintendo is extremely rich with content. It's a given that Snake is a highly-wanted veteran to return to the series, but Konami could probably be better served with an older and more historic representative. There is quite a lot to borrow from, as many of Konami's greatest franchises began on a Nintendo system and really put the company on the map.


Sparkster (Rocket Knight Adventures, 1993) - Although this series began its life on the Sega Genesis, Sparkster did appear on the Super Nintendo in 1994 with an excellent and challenging entry in the series, which makes him eligible to appear in Smash. For the uninitiated, Sparkster is an opossum "rocket knight" from the kingdom of Zebulos. He is a warrior knight with a jetpack always strapped to his back, which enables him to boost around at incredible speeds and perform daring acrobatic attacks in the air with his sword, such as flaming top spins and corkscrew drill maneuvers. In addition to this, he has a variety of giant deadly mecha that he takes control of when his normal abilities won't do. In typical knight fashion, his personality is quite chivalrous and honorable, as he regularly puts his life at risk to save others, not for profit, or even for a kiss from Princess Sherry, but simply to do the right thing.​



Goemon (Mystical Ninja/Ganbare Goemon series, 1986) - Introduced as "Kid Ying" to western audiences on the SNES in 1991, Goemon is the main protagonist of the Ganbare Goemon series which actually began in the arcades in 1986. He is a hot-blooded, short-tempered ninja thief who lives in Oedo, an absurd, anachronistic, cartoony parody of Feudal Japan. Along with his lecherous friend Ebisumaru, and his other friends Yae and Sasuke, he embarks on many adventures to save the land of Oedo from various forces of evil who would do them harm, armed with little else than a pipe and some shuriken (or ryo coins, depending on which character you play as). He is very skilled with his seemingly limited arsenal which contains hidden ninja gadgetry such as spiked yo-yos, bombs and chain links. He can also summon a tiger to ride on, and can access a variety of judo abilities such as flight, lightning projection and flailing kabuki hair. Lastly, like Sparkster, he has been known to pilot a giant robot from time to time: his friend IMPACT, who bears his likeness and has giant-sized versions of his abilities.


Simon Belmont (Castlevania, 1986) - Simon Belmont is descended from a line of vampire hunters, the Belmont family, whose mission it is to banish the evil Dracula and free the land from his dark influence. Pictured above is the "classic" iteration of Simon Belmont, as he was originally introduced. He would later receive an odd redesign into a more "beautiful" bishounen style character. Raised to be a holy warrior by his clan, Simon is trained to use a whip as his main weapon and can harness the magic hidden within holy artifacts such as crucifixes, holy water, stopwatches and daggers, enabling him to wield a variety of projectiles, cast carpets of flames on the ground, or even pause time itself. By building enough power, he can also perform an "item crash" with each of these artifacts, which offer greatly enhanced and deadlier versions of their abilities.​
 
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Out of the 3, i'd prefer Simon Belmont. Maybe a multiple directional neutral whip attack like in Super Castlevania, and it could act like Mega Man's metal blade. If they could make Mega Man play like his NES, SNES, etc. counterpart, then Simon can be the same. Also, his NES to SNES music would be amazing in Smash, especially on a Dracula's Castle stage. I can't believe this is an un-popular opinion.
 

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I would much prefer Bomberman, to be honest.
 

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Snake and Simon would be a dream come true since they would contribute some excellent stage ideas and fantastic music tracks. Just imagine, hearing Bloody Tears with a sexy rock remix while a certain Belmont fighting a certain super soldier in Dracula's Castle. It would be a huge missed opportunity if both characters aren't in Smash as DLC since it would be a pretty legendary moment in gaming history.
 

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Bomberman does not belong to Konami, he belongs to Hudson Soft.
Konami acquired Hudson Soft, and Hudson Soft no longer exists.

Konami now owns all their property.

Besides Bomberman, you forgot Snake, Frogger, and someone from Contra and Silent Hill
 
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Snake is the only Konami rep that belongs in Smash. No one else is even close to being as iconic as him. Also, he would be easier to make because he's a veteran.
 

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Snake is obviously the most deserving, and only likely Konami representative (although, I wouldn't mind having Simon Belmont due to his history with Nintendo).
 

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Snake is the only Konami rep that belongs in Smash. No one else is even close to being as iconic as him. Also, he would be easier to make because he's a veteran.
I would have to say that more people are probably familiar with Frogger, Simon, and Bomberman. Snake was actually kind of a weird pick if you assume they were looking at it with the mindset of "Konami rep", which they probably weren't.
 

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Sparkster's moveset fits Smash like a glove, I think he's the best pick for a Konami rep.
 

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Besides Bomberman, you forgot Snake, Frogger, and someone from Contra and Silent Hill
I didn't forget them, I just didn't post them. Everyone already knows about Snake, I mentioned him at the beginning of my post; this thread is about NEW Konami reps that aren't him. And Silent Hill has no interesting characters.
 
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I didn't forget them, I just didn't post them. Everyone already knows about Snake, I mentioned him at the beginning of my post; this thread is about NEW Konami reps that aren't him. And Silent Hill has no interesting characters.
Well you would think a thread dedicated to konami reps would include atleast the major franchises/ reps in the op...

And ... Pyramid head, is one among a handful of interesting characters
 

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Well you would think a thread dedicated to konami reps would include atleast the major franchises/ reps in the op...

And ... Pyramid head, is one among a handful of interesting characters
Let me rephrase that. In MY opinion, Silent Hill has no interesting characters. Pyramid Head is just a phantasm from James' mind in Silent Hill 2 and it makes no sense to me why he became the series' mascot or why he makes any appearances at all outside of SH2.
 
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I feel like Snake and Bomberman are also worth mentioning (seeing as Konami owns Hudson Soft's properties now). I feel like Snake's the most likely option, seeing as it would be much easier for them to recreate a veteran than to make a new character from scratch.
 

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Whelp, might as well post this again.

 

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Did you enjoy playing DreamMix TV World Fighters?
Never had the chance to play it, but always wanted to.

By the way, here's a list I made up a while back of what an all Konami Smash Bros. would look like.

1. Alucard - Castlevania
2. Death - Castlevania
3. Simon Belmont - Castlevania
4. Shanoa - Castlevania
5. Solid Snake - Metal Gear
6. Raiden - Metal Gear
7. Revolver Ocelot - Metal Gear
8. Bill Rizer - Contra
9. Frogger - Frogger
10. Goemon - Legend of the Mystical Ninja Goemon
11. Konami Man - Various
12. Pyramid Head - Silent Hill
13. Sparkster - Rocket Knight
14. Tir McDohl - Suikoden
15. Twinbee - Twinbee
16. Moaia - Gradius
17. White Bomberman - Bomberman
18. Yugo- Bloody Roar
19. Alice - Bloody Roar
20. Gado - Bloody Roar
21. Power Pro-kun - Power Pro '94
22. Master Higgins - Adventure Island
23. Momotarō - Momotaro Densetsu
24. Bonk - Bonk's Adventure
25. Zonk - Air Zonk
26. Claymore - Vandall Hearts
27. Jazeta - Neutopia
28. Leo Stenbuck - Zone of Enders
 

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10.) Twin Bee (Twin Bee)



9.) Sparkster (Rocket Knight Adventures)



8.) Bonk (Bonk's Adventure)



7.) Bill Rizer (Contra)



6.) Goemon (Legend of the Mystical Ninja)



5.) Master Higgins (Adventure Island)



4.) Frogger (Frogger)



3.) Simon Belmont (Castlevania)




2.) White Bomberman (Bomberman)



1.) Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)



Top Ten Konami Reps for Smash Bros. list I made a while back. Still stands. One thing I will say is that Goemon has a lot of Japanese support... more than Simon Belmont, Bomberman, or any other non-Snake Konami rep.
 

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Bonk/Zonk for the win. How are 16 bit grafx? Turbo, that's how.
He really was the third wheel in the Sonic/Mario debate of the 90's. I would place him higher than Sparkster just based on that.

It's kind of sad to see how badly he's been forgotten.
 
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I don't recall ever hearing about him during the 90's. I only learned about him decades later. Bonk was completely irrelevant.
How old are you? Just curious. If you are in your late 20's-30's you should know who Bonk is. The Turbo Grafx 16 was the third biggest console in the 16-bit era, and Bonk was their mascot.





That second cover shows Zonk, Bonk's future alter ego, hanging out with Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Link and Ryu. What do all those guys have in common? He's had more games than Sparkster and I would bet you he has more combined sales. I'll see if I can find any number for you.
 
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Snake and Simon should be fighters, Frogger and Bomberman should be assist trophies. Gray Fox would come back too as an assist trophy.
 

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Snake and Simon should be fighters, Frogger and Bomberman should be assist trophies. Gray Fox would come back too as an assist trophy.
I want playable Bomberman, but that would work for me.
 

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I'd be fine with him being a fighter, just realistically, I think he has better chances as an assist trophy.
I said this in the Snake support thread (we should probably link all the specific Konami support threads in the opening post) that if Snake comes back as the sole Konami rep I want him to have Simon's Holy Water and Bomberman's Bomb as custom variations of his grenade move.

I would also love some more Konami Assist Trophies, and maybe a Castlevania stage. I need that music in Smash.
 

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How old are you? Just curious. If you are in your late 20's-30's you should know who Bonk is. The Turbo Grafx 16 was the third biggest console in the 16-bit era, and Bonk was their mascot.
I am that old and I still don't recall him. He had a very generic character design so I probably saw him and my mind just erased him. I really don't remember him being a big player, he seemed less important than Crash Bandicoot.
 
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I am that old and I still don't recall him. He had a very generic character design so I probably saw him and my mind just erased him. I really don't remember him being a big player, he seemed less important than Crash Bandicoot.
To be fair, Crash Bandicoot was pretty important for his time, and Crash's time was several years after Bonks.
 

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I am that old and I still don't recall him. He had a very generic character design so I probably saw him and my mind just erased him. I really don't remember him being a big player, he seemed less important than Crash Bandicoot.

The more direct question for it is: Do you remember the Turbografx 16? It was the third console of the 16 bit era but not really as well known as SNES or Genesis because it was 3-4 times the cost (and the reward for that cost wasn't any better than either of the other two consoles)

If you do, you remember Bonk. He was the mascot of that system. Crash was the mascot of the PSOne, but that's five-six years later than the start of the 16 bit era. Crash is the start of the 32 bit era. With Sega CD/32X/Saturn and Virtual Boy. Which if you were just coming to age for Crash, you could very well have missed Bonk.

Plus, you're looking for Konami specifically, hence your OP doesn't have Bomberman. Bonk and Bomberman were both acquired when Konami bought out HudsonSoft. Where they were the old representatives.

Who's the kid in dream fighters with the K-cap? He's also in this random GBA kart racer i have called Krazy Racers, which was Konami's answer to Mario Kart. But the only really identifiable characters I remember in that game were Goemon and Dracula.

Edit: Also, if you don't remember the turbografx 16 at all but liked 16 bit era Mario and Sonic and have money to spare... go on your Wii Virtual Console (Not Wii U.. yet) and download Bonk's Adventure or Bonk's Revenge. There is a reason he was the mascot against those two platforming giants.
 
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The more direct question for it is: Do you remember the Turbografx 16? It was the third console of the 16 bit era but not really as well known as SNES or Genesis because it was 3-4 times the cost (and the reward for that cost wasn't any better than either of the other two consoles)

If you do, you remember Bonk. He was the mascot of that system. Crash was the mascot of the PSOne, but that's five-six years later than the start of the 16 bit era. Crash is the start of the 32 bit era. With Sega CD/32X/Saturn and Virtual Boy. Which if you were just coming to age for Crash, you could very well have missed Bonk.

Plus, you're looking for Konami specifically, hence your OP doesn't have Bomberman. Bonk and Bomberman were both acquired when Konami bought out HudsonSoft. Where they were the old representatives.

Who's the kid in dream fighters with the K-cap? He's also in this random GBA kart racer i have called Krazy Racers, which was Konami's answer to Mario Kart. But the only really identifiable characters I remember in that game were Goemon and Dracula.

Edit: Also, if you don't remember the turbografx 16 at all but liked 16 bit era Mario and Sonic and have money to spare... go on your Wii Virtual Console (Not Wii U.. yet) and download Bonk's Adventure or Bonk's Revenge. There is a reason he was the mascot against those two platforming giants.
Kid in the cap is Power Pro Kun, he's from a long running Konami made baseball game.
 

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Oh man, I would kill to have Bonk in smash. With him using his giant head for all his attacks he would make for a fascinating and unique fighter.
 

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The more direct question for it is: Do you remember the Turbografx 16? It was the third console of the 16 bit era but not really as well known as SNES or Genesis because it was 3-4 times the cost (and the reward for that cost wasn't any better than either of the other two consoles)

If you do, you remember Bonk. He was the mascot of that system.
I don't recall Turbografx-16 being an important name in the video game business in the slightest. Back then Mario & Sonic received 100% of my attention, and if Bonk was around I barely noticed him, especially since he had games on the NES and SNES. I think he was just white noise.
 
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If you want Konami's "mascot" the answer is either Twinbee or Goemon. Frogger, sadly, should not factor into the conversation at all- a lot of people seem to bring him up as an answer to Pac-Man, but Pac went on to be Namco's obvious mascot, while Frogger has been neglected by Konami for decades. He constantly gets handed off to C-list teams and the company can't even pin down a remotely consistent look for the character (sometimes anthropomorphized, sometimes animal-like but cartoony, sometimes photorealistic).

Snake is out for good most likely now that his creator (the reason he was in in the first place) isn't with Konami. I don't think he was a good Konami rep to begin with, as he was quite strongly associated with the Playstation brand. He's also not Konami's mascot by any means, like I said, that's Twinbee or Goemon.

But I don't think a Konami Mascot is really what we need in this game... after all, Capcom doesn't usually treat Mega-Man as their mascot. But Mega-Man is Capcom's best ambassador to Nintendo- he's basically an honorary Nintendo character himself. And along those lines, the obvious character Konami has at their disposal is Simon Belmont. I mean, that's a no brainer, you'd finally assemble the Captain N team. Simon is as much a Nintendo character as most characters in the game (I'd argue he's more Nintendo than Sonic and Pac-Man, and CERTAINLY more than Snake).

Now, as far as HudsonSoft characters go, I don't think Konami would promote any of them, sadly. If Hudson was still alive and well, then the obvious choice would be Bomberman. I'm more interested in characters with a pro-Nintendo history than with now-defunct rivalries. There's no rival more definitive to Nintendo than Sonic, so I'm not keen on lesser rivalries like Bonk (though I love Bonk, he doesn't fit Smash Bros to me for these reasons- I'd put Crash Bandicoot and Cloud in the same category). Bomberman, like Simon and Mega Man, is basically a Nintendo character in all but name. The NES era greats. But like I said, Konami probably wouldn't promote him.
 

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