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POKÉMAFIA: TOWN WINS

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For the record, swamp allegedly refreshed shish as well. So thay would be two town refreshes. Unless shish is scum too but that would ****ing suck and i would fell so stupid. . .
that makes a strong question....what even is shis's second ability?
 

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For the record, swamp allegedly refreshed shish as well. So thay would be two town refreshes. Unless shish is scum too but that would ****ing suck and i would fell so stupid. . .
Okay...

I cannot see an ability like this be used more than once.

It's just too potentially game-breaking
 
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that makes a strong question....what even is shis's second ability?
one-time manual bulletproof. (aka put on a vest for the night)

Okay...

I cannot see an ability like this be used more than once.

It's just too potentially game-breaking
If you're suspicious, have shish go all gladiator on us again then. Cant say i agree with the decision when a gladiator usage might be useful late game, but i guess it's an option.
 

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one-time manual bulletproof. (aka put on a vest for the night)


If you're suspicious, have shish go all gladiator on us again then. Cant say i agree with the decision when a gladiator usage might be useful late game, but i guess it's an option.
muh? um.....does that even make sense for it to be on a machamp?
 

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If you're suspicious, have shish go all gladiator on us again then. Cant say i agree with the decision when a gladiator usage might be useful late game, but i guess it's an option.
Zeb... there's only one scum left. Two at worst.

So basically, this is late game.

one-time manual bulletproof. (aka put on a vest for the night)
Considering that Opo has a passive version of that...
 
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for the record, if anyone has any questions about anything, im open for it. Any info i can give to town is worth at this point.
Zeb... there's only one scum left. Two at worst.

So basically, this is late game.


Considering that Opo has a passive version of that...
oh yeah. . .i guess it is sort of late game. I was more thinking down to 4 players but ehh.
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(in seriousness, if you arent kidding, it will take a monute or 20 to post everything ice done this game. i think im about to hit a boss fight in xc2)
 
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Right now, I am still voting for Pokechu.
Lets hold off on the Swamp lynch idea for now.
Though Opossum does make a good point.
 
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Time for "everything." Apologies if my memory isn't perfect. I prioritize school to mafia, and stopped taking notes after FE mafia lol. Also this is a ****ton of info goddamn
Day one: didn't really do anything. It's day one after all.
Night one: Talked to WAY more people than I thought. Jesus. . .
Golden and Holder (I thought one of the two was mafia and tried to sneak a bit of info out of each. Did not get anything),

Opo, Shishoe, Shiny, and Pokechu. All 4 approached me. Like I said I wasn't very active night 1.

Shiny asked me about if I had any suspicions. I didn't have the heart to say "him" after that random AF vote for Holder and their suspicious role and pokemon.

Opo asked me about my role, and I told them I was messenger. Didn't mind because of the "denial" and all that jazz and the fact my message was **** so I didnt feel the need to lie. Held back the reflect info from everyone for the same reasons you don't tell people you're the bomb.

Shishoe apporached me saying my role was allegedly uselss, so someone I must have told told them. Meh.
Brought up a plan to use gladiator at the last second and then have me vote up so it would be a 1-0 vote after a reset. I was still super suspicious of Shiny so I didnt immediately shoot it down, but I never said "yeah use it on Lampy!" This conversation also led to me being recharged by Swamp. It was a funny conversation of telephone between me, shish, and swamp all waiting for the other to reply so we could talk to the other. Eventually, the message went through and I was recharged.

Pokechu also knew my role before I talked to them. Came to ask for suspicions. Told me their role (Munchlax jack of all trades. Uses beans ETC) after I told mine.

Swamp I approached and gave my role (gordon ramsey) because I really wanted to know what pokemon they were and I was desperate. "Who the **** even could be a timestopper?" Did not get an answer other than "im not celebi or dialga." I still dont know know that I think about it. Also really wanted to know what my hidden ability was. I did not say for obvious reasons. Then the refresher shenanigans happened.

Me being refreshed, and the fact that shish helped it happen caused me to pretty much trust them more than anyone else, at least until day 2 and 3 where I learned more "obviously have to be townie" roles.

Day 2: Shishoe suddenly does gladiator shenagans. Really was not a fan of this situation. Became one "confirmed" town VS one possibly non-town and one probably town. Took a chance. CLEARLY that was the wrong choice >_> Inregards to El Vote - ing, I wanted RamOne to go for their thing and Golden to kill them so we would know a confirmed town or kill a mafia either way. The alternative was Holder because I was still suspicious and them hiding being mayor (which became public at that point) really threw me for a loop. . .but I knew "Hey kill they mayor" would not have gone well for me. Then the results happened and here we are

After these shenanigans, I decided I would start trying to help the damn town. We lost a lot of townies and knew I couldnt rest on better players doing it by themselves

Night 2-
Questioned RamOne why neither Ram nor Pokechu died. Both Ram and Pokechu claimed that Pokechu day-roleblocked RamOne. RamOne claimed their second ability was vengeful bomb (which is absurd mind you, so I assumed it was a lie).

Talked to Coricus too because they claimed Vigilante. Asked them to kill Ram because, again. Thought they were uber suspicious. Also didn't really believe the random vig claim for. . .reasons I cant actually remember, so if one o them was mafia it was win-win. Coricus kills a mafia, or a mafia blows themself up. It was really mean, but oh well.

Pokechu really wanted to save up for a kill instead of a watch/check. . .that was about it.

Z25 -asked about them because they said they could check PMs. Wanted to make sure they checked holder so we had a list of the mafia. They died so we never will know. They asked quite a bit about my announcement, and I of course didnt say ****.

Questioned Liberation. Only got "commuter" out of them. Wouldnt even tell me their pokemon, let alone their role. Was prety suspicious in that PM too.

Whiteeagle - Got a role claim out of them, but the rest of the PM was basically a staring contest with neither giving any information at all, waiting for the other to make the first move. Their are like 10 posts here but no information.

Natz- got a roleclaim and all that which was quickly proven. We talked about Ledian and how cool of a pokemon it is. Or at least how much I liked it. . .

Shish started a PM with me and Swamp because we were both trustworthy. It made sense with all 3 of us working for night 1. Swamp said they trusted Coricus but did not give a reason.. Gave Liberation and WhiteEagle's roles. Shish told who the reviver was in an attempt to have Swamp recharge it (which swamp claims was impossible. Swamp asked why I would keep the reviever's role a secret if I already knew.

At this point, I made my announcement and activate boomburst. I had made sure to talk to every player in the game pretty much and acted intentionally shady. I did not tell a single player that I did not actually know anything. I intentionally double-talked and triple-talked people.

After that, day 3 happened which was public

OKAY posing first half because this is taking forever to type and I dont want to delete a draft or something.
 

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tbh i'll put shishoe over zeb on the list of suspects

one, messenger makes less sense for scum than a gladiator role
two, shishoes other ability is easy fakable and isn't even confirmed vs zebs other both roles
three, swampy could of still recharaged zebs messenger role, unless its specifically stated it can't be used beyond mafia members we can assume it can be used on anyone

right now i got a good chunk of faith in zeb, and still some in shishoe, its only swampy i doubt horribly
but with recent revelation all three of them got some doubt put over them
 
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Shiny what the **** you liked that post the second it was posted. There is so much text you literally could not have read it that fast. A literal robot would have had trouble.
 
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Shiny asked me about if I had any suspicions. I didn't have the heart to say "him" after that random AF vote for Holder and their suspicious role and pokemon.
Why would you not have the heart to tell me? It is totally fine to say your opinion on me. :p
 
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Here are my thoughts:

Pokechu: Suspicious
Swamp: A little suspicious
Zeb~: Fine. I do not know why some of you are targeting him.

Shiny what the **** you liked that post the second it was posted. There is so much text you literally could not have read it that fast. A literal robot would have had trouble.
I read the entire post.
I knew it was a good post automatically. :p
 
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Shiny what the **** you liked that post the second it was posted. There is so much text you literally could not have read it that fast. A literal robot would have had trouble.
If you are confused, I liked the post before I read it.
I read it after I liked the post.
I know your posts are usually worth reading, so I like them. :)
 

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Time for "everything." Apologies if my memory isn't perfect. I prioritize school to mafia, and stopped taking notes after FE mafia lol. Also this is a ****ton of info goddamn
Day one: didn't really do anything. It's day one after all.
Night one: Talked to WAY more people than I thought. Jesus. . .
Golden and Holder (I thought one of the two was mafia and tried to sneak a bit of info out of each. Did not get anything),

Opo, Shishoe, Shiny, and Pokechu. All 4 approached me. Like I said I wasn't very active night 1.

Shiny asked me about if I had any suspicions. I didn't have the heart to say "him" after that random AF vote for Holder and their suspicious role and pokemon.

Opo asked me about my role, and I told them I was messenger. Didn't mind because of the "denial" and all that jazz and the fact my message was **** so I didnt feel the need to lie. Held back the reflect info from everyone for the same reasons you don't tell people you're the bomb.

Shishoe apporached me saying my role was allegedly uselss, so someone I must have told told them. Meh.
Brought up a plan to use gladiator at the last second and then have me vote up so it would be a 1-0 vote after a reset. I was still super suspicious of Shiny so I didnt immediately shoot it down, but I never said "yeah use it on Lampy!" This conversation also led to me being recharged by Swamp. It was a funny conversation of telephone between me, shish, and swamp all waiting for the other to reply so we could talk to the other. Eventually, the message went through and I was recharged.

Pokechu also knew my role before I talked to them. Came to ask for suspicions. Told me their role (Munchlax jack of all trades. Uses beans ETC) after I told mine.

Swamp I approached and gave my role (gordon ramsey) because I really wanted to know what pokemon they were and I was desperate. "Who the **** even could be a timestopper?" Did not get an answer other than "im not celebi or dialga." I still dont know know that I think about it. Also really wanted to know what my hidden ability was. I did not say for obvious reasons. Then the refresher shenanigans happened.

Me being refreshed, and the fact that shish helped it happen caused me to pretty much trust them more than anyone else, at least until day 2 and 3 where I learned more "obviously have to be townie" roles.

Day 2: Shishoe suddenly does gladiator shenagans. Really was not a fan of this situation. Became one "confirmed" town VS one possibly non-town and one probably town. Took a chance. CLEARLY that was the wrong choice >_> Inregards to El Vote - ing, I wanted RamOne to go for their thing and Golden to kill them so we would know a confirmed town or kill a mafia either way. The alternative was Holder because I was still suspicious and them hiding being mayor (which became public at that point) really threw me for a loop. . .but I knew "Hey kill they mayor" would not have gone well for me. Then the results happened and here we are

After these shenanigans, I decided I would start trying to help the damn town. We lost a lot of townies and knew I couldnt rest on better players doing it by themselves

Night 2-
Questioned RamOne why neither Ram nor Pokechu died. Both Ram and Pokechu claimed that Pokechu day-roleblocked RamOne. RamOne claimed their second ability was vengeful bomb (which is absurd mind you, so I assumed it was a lie).

Talked to Coricus too because they claimed Vigilante. Asked them to kill Ram because, again. Thought they were uber suspicious. Also didn't really believe the random vig claim for. . .reasons I cant actually remember, so if one o them was mafia it was win-win. Coricus kills a mafia, or a mafia blows themself up. It was really mean, but oh well.

Pokechu really wanted to save up for a kill instead of a watch/check. . .that was about it.

Z25 -asked about them because they said they could check PMs. Wanted to make sure they checked holder so we had a list of the mafia. They died so we never will know. They asked quite a bit about my announcement, and I of course didnt say ****.

Questioned Liberation. Only got "commuter" out of them. Wouldnt even tell me their pokemon, let alone their role. Was prety suspicious in that PM too.

Whiteeagle - Got a role claim out of them, but the rest of the PM was basically a staring contest with neither giving any information at all, waiting for the other to make the first move. Their are like 10 posts here but no information.

Natz- got a roleclaim and all that which was quickly proven. We talked about Ledian and how cool of a pokemon it is. Or at least how much I liked it. . .

Shish started a PM with me and Swamp because we were both trustworthy. It made sense with all 3 of us working for night 1. Swamp said they trusted Coricus but did not give a reason.. Gave Liberation and WhiteEagle's roles. Shish told who the reviver was in an attempt to have Swamp recharge it (which swamp claims was impossible. Swamp asked why I would keep the reviever's role a secret if I already knew.

At this point, I made my announcement and activate boomburst. I had made sure to talk to every player in the game pretty much and acted intentionally shady. I did not tell a single player that I did not actually know anything. I intentionally double-talked and triple-talked people.

After that, day 3 happened which was public

OKAY posing first half because this is taking forever to type and I dont want to delete a draft or something.
ok ya....swamps hella suspicoius, he would of been all down for something more useful and such...and he trusted coricus despite haven't zero reason to? hm...
Natz- got a roleclaim and all that which was quickly proven. We talked about Ledian and how cool of a pokemon it is. Or at least how much I liked it. . .
once again i'm sorry ^-^' i did admit the artwork ya posted was awesome
 
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Actually. . .there wasnt much more after that. Tried to get Pokechu to prove their role by watching/tracking like Uni tried but they were out of beans . . .after saying they could do it apparently. The only things I did were really relevant were talking to uni (and learning of Pokechu shuffling like 4 times), and then talking to swamp and shish, and quite frankly we didn't say anything interesting. Just a order of lynch by suspicion (pokechu --> shiny -->etc)


If someone thinks I missed something and wishes to share go for it. Nothing i said needs to be private. Well, except who the reviver is obviously, but I think everyone knows by this point lol.
 

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Both Ram and Pokechu claimed that Pokechu day-roleblocked RamOne.
Both of them did?

Well, I think that confirms the roleblock ability Chu has.

But that doesn't mean he's not scum.

Z25 -asked about them because they said they could check PMs.
Interesting...

Had I known you'd say that here, I'd have waited a day before taking to him...

Swamp said they trusted Coricus but did not give a reason..
That's... fishy...
 

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whelp i honestly got enough to inquire and trust my gut

unvote: pokechu
vote: swampy

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TALK SWAMPY ABOUT EVERYTHING OR I WILL SINGLE HANDEDLY GNAW OFF YOUR LIMBS AND FEED YOU TO THE CARVANHAS FOR RUINING THE COOKIE TIME THAT UNI GAVE ME!
 
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For the sake of fairness, Looking back at all of these posts, im looking at all of these old posts with a clear bias. I didn't look at any of these posts as suspicious before, but now suddenly I am. Opo is not helping my paranoia.

Interesting...

Had I known you'd say that here, I'd have waited a day before taking to him...
Mind elaborating. Im not sure what you're getting at here. Z25 claimed their role publically I think, so that night I posted in all caps to check holder so we knew everyone they were in a PM with. And if we knew that, we would know who was mafia. Anyone they werent in a PM with would be auto-innocent since they werent in mafia chat. . .if that's what you're asking

Obviously they died the next night, but I didnt believe their role anyway. . .so hopefully we didnt lose the kill list lol.
I know two people who don't, and that's because I asked the reviver all of the people who was aware of their role.
TBH I think while people might not have actually been told, I would be surprised if people din't have it known by process of elimination
 

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Mind elaborating. Im not sure what you're getting at here. Z25 claimed their role publically I think, so that night I posted in all caps to check holder so we knew everyone they were in a PM with. And if we knew that, we would know who was mafia. Anyone they werent in a PM with would be auto-innocent since they werent in mafia chat. . .if that's what you're asking
Great plan.

But...

Maybe it's just because I was busy and couldn't really keep up, but I don't fully remember that...

TBH I think while people might not have actually been told, I would be surprised if people din't have it known by process of elimination
That's fair enough.
 
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I think you guys need to look more into actions than roles and such. If Swamp was Mafia, he had plenty of chances to screw up the Town yet he didn't.
He could easily have killed Zeb on Night 1 after that announcement and he knew the Reviver on Night 2.
HOLD IT!




Pokechu is a malicious third party, true, but I believe he's NOT a member of the Mafia. In truth, the final Mafia member is...



SWAMP!

You see, during my time in limbo, none other than Holder of the Heel offered a bit of a riddle. Of course, being that Holder was scum, I initially thought nothing of it. He claimed that one of these members was Mafia. He specified, in alphabetical order...



RamOne
WhiteEagle
Swamp
Zeb

And now, thinking it over, his plan was clear. He realized those in limbo had a chance to be revived, and as such, deliver this information to the cop, free of suspicion. He specified alphabetical order to throw us off...because it was the mafia's plan ALL ALONG to frame RamOne!



"But," Holder thought, "what if the investigation didn't end there?"

Well, White was an easy one to put on the list. After all, he was Absol, the Godfather. He would come up innocent. But Holder, for as crafty as he is, was likely getting cocky.

That was, until the death of Coricus, whereupon Holder let out a simple, telltale "****." He realized his mistake. He didn't think Coricus would die, and this was after he put another mafioso in danger. Why else would he feel so threatened? But in the end, he figured the investigation would end after all was said and done with RamOne.

But...

Something else lines up all too well.



Swamp's daystopper power!

Swamp was initially hesitant to use it, and for very good reason. He didn't want to use it on one of his scum buddies. But what day did he finally agree to use it on? The day we lynched Liberation, a TOWNIE.

But even further, Swamp has been VERY silent as to what Pokémon he is. But given his role as a time stopper...



SWAMP IS DIALGA, AND HIS POWER WAS ROAR OF TIME!

Why is this relevant, you might ask? Well, in truth, it explains a lot. You see, Swamp was very likely privy to the whole "Jail White" plan. He by all means should have done the kill himself. But...he couldn't.


BECAUSE ROAR OF TIME REQUIRES A RECHARGE!

Praline has been on the record in the past saying that he thought timestoppers were kind of overpowered, and I think that telegraphed a startling limitation for Swamp.


After using Roar of Time, Swamp became unable to perform any other Mafia actions! This would also explain how he wasn't able to kill last night, and gave him all the more reason to be hesitant about using his power! Because...



SWAMP IS DIALGA, A LEGENDARY POKÉMON FED UP WITH BEING LEFT IN THE BOX. OR POSSIBLY...

PRIMAL DIALGA.


You put up a good fight, but it's all too clear to me that if Pokechu's death doesn't end the game, you should be the next to go.


Or, you know, if you're not it then it's Zeb. But hey, process of elimination.
See, you really shouldn't take info from confirmed scum.
Also, remember Swamp pulled this exact stunt on the FEH Mafia, claim I was a malicious 3rd Party and say they had recruited somebody in.

Also, Swamp recharged me the Night before this, I got notified in the Night results.
Don't trust scum's words, even after death.
Okay...

I cannot see an ability like this be used more than once.

It's just too potentially game-breaking
We've had weirder stuff in this very game. A recharger isn't the more busted thing we've seen.
one-time manual bulletproof. (aka put on a vest for the night)


If you're suspicious, have shish go all gladiator on us again then. Cant say i agree with the decision when a gladiator usage might be useful late game, but i guess it's an option.
I don't have my gladiator anymore, Swamp can only recharge one ability per usage which Praline confirmed to me she threw a coin to decide.
If you guys want, have Swamp recharge me next Night and hope the coin gives me the gladiator ability back up again.
Shishoe apporached me saying my role was allegedly uselss, so someone I must have told told them. Meh.
It was Opossum btw
 

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For the sake of fairness, Looking back at all of these posts, im looking at all of these old posts with a clear bias. I didn't look at any of these posts as suspicious before, but now suddenly I am. Opo is not helping my paranoia.
In all fairness, I looked back on some stuff for my arguments of the last day phase as well.

Hindsight is essential for games like this one.
 

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i'm not backing down from my viewpoint here, not intill swampy talks, hes got to many things to start ponying up about, no more secrets

we killed libby because he was secretive and didn't share, swamps gonna have the same fate if he doesn't bother to speak
 
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