POKÉMAFIA: TOWN WINS

[Pokechu]

Wait, has Shiny visibly jailed anyone during the game? Like have any of us been jailed by him?

What if he cant't jail at all? What if he's a mafia roleblocker? Holder went by the same thing, he claimed jailer but really was just a roleblocker.

That may be why Ram died, not because Cori used her strongman but because Shiny didn't protect Ram at all!

based off of process of elimination I don't think anyone else could have a roleblock ability, I watched Opo and was told I couldn't act :x

 

[Natz~]

so pokechus a liar, scum, and screwed, all i needed to hear

vote: pokechu

 

[Deleted member]

Wait, has Shiny visibly jailed anyone during the game? Like have any of us been jailed by him?

What if he cant't jail at all? What if he's a mafia roleblocker? Holder went by the same thing, he claimed jailer but really was just a roleblocker.

That may be why Ram died, not because Cori used her strongman but because Shiny didn't protect Ram at all!

based off of process of elimination I don't think anyone else could have a roleblock ability, I watched Opo and was told I couldn't act :x

I jailed WhiteEaglePL two nights ago and no kills.
WhiteEaglePL is mafia, so I did jail people.
Nice try, Pokechu.

 

[Pokechu]

I jailed WhiteEaglePL two nights ago and no kills.
WhiteEaglePL is mafia, so I did jail people.
Nice try, Pokechu.

You know it's possible for mafia to decide to not kill anyone, right? What if you claimed White was protected and neither of you targeted anyone to kill?

 

[A Distant Demon]

Alright was waiting on results to try and not affect the results. Everyone voted anyway so it doesn't really matter.

If it was a 50/50 between shiny and pokechu based on whatever plan it is stoopid had, would have chosen pokechu.


Lynch all millers
Vote: pokechu

 

[Natz~]

....um....they couldn't kill period without their gf (at least social mafia, still learning forum)
whites death proved they didn't choose to not kill, they had no choice in the matter

 

[Pokechu]

if I was mafia though, why would I try SO hard to lynch White, the godfather? I don't think that'd make any sense...

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Ok, first of all: why? Why Z25? We have no idea what his alignment was and he could very well be lying about everything.

That's why I'm taking his stuff with a gain of salt.

But I was hoping I'd get some info about his role. Uncover the unknown. Felt cheated when he told me he couldn't.

I mean, it worked, didn't it?

True.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

if I was mafia though, why would I try SO hard to lynch White, the godfather? I don't think that'd make any sense...

Because a scum killing another scum can lead to them looking innocent.

It's a risky strategy, but if done well, can pay off.

 

[Pokechu]

....um....they couldn't kill period without their gf (at least social mafia, still learning forum)
whites death proved they didn't choose to not kill, they had no choice in the matter

In forum mafia, mafia can still kill without their godfather. Usually the godfather survives the longest but he's been eliminated and the mafia still got kills before, I think it was the Heroes mafia?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

With that said, I gotta bring up something...

The Plan™, which I personally won't share since it failed (but if Opo wants to, fine by me), was supposed to be a secret.

Two people found out about Shiny not jailing Chu because he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Those two people? Swamp and Zeb, the exact two people Z25 told me the dead suspected.

Make that what you will.

 

[Pokechu]

Because a scum killing another scum can lead to them looking innocent.

It's a risky strategy, but if done well, can pay off.

White wasn't gathering much attention until I put him on the spot... if anything bussing on him out of all people just hurt the mafia because it's possible he could have lived a little longer if I hadn't fought so hard to kill him.

plus aiming on him just turned you guys against me

 

[Natz~]

huh
so basically all you did was keep it a secret from me! you jerk

In forum mafia, mafia can still kill without their godfather. Usually the godfather survives the longest but he's been eliminated and the mafia still got kills before, I think it was the Heroes mafia?

well...ya without, but i meant if the gf is roleblocked or jaield they can't do **** whiles hes alive

 

[Pokechu]

huh
so basically all you did was keep it a secret from me! you jerk



well...ya without, but i meant if the gf is roleblocked or jaield they can't do **** whiles hes alive

If the godfather chose someone else to kill and then got roleblocked, then that someone else's kill would still go through I believe.

Or am I still not getting it?

 

[Deleted member]

With that said, I gotta bring up something...

The Plan™, which I personally won't share since it failed (but if Opo wants to, fine by me), was supposed to be a secret.

Two people found out about Shiny not jailing Chu because he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Those two people? Swamp and Zeb, the exact two people Z25 told me the dead suspected.

Make that what you will.

There's no way either of them are scum, Zeb knew who the reviver was on Night 1.
Swamp has a role that makes no sense for a scum to have either.

huh
so basically all you did was keep it a secret from me! you jerk



well...ya without, but i meant if the gf is roleblocked or jaield they can't do **** whiles hes alive

Don't worry, I didn't know about the plan either.

I keep reading gf as girlfriend
But, outside of White's game, Mafia has been able to kill with or without their Girlfriend every time.

 

[A Distant Demon]

To be entirely fair, we don't even know if my plan worked yet. I it's Z25, they might have been a town vigilante or something and suicided on a townie.


As for "why out white?"
1. self-preservation. It was Pokechu in the cross-hairs at the beginning of the phase.
2. Bussing is a totally normal part of the game. I got shishoe lynched, for instance, in Animafia, and didnt fight at all for when Golden and Pokechu were on the line in that game either. I think Holder did the same thing to Swamp in FE mafia.

With that said, I gotta bring up something...

The Plan™, which I personally won't share since it failed (but if Opo wants to, fine by me), was supposed to be a secret.

Two people found out about Shiny not jailing Chu because he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Those two people? Swamp and Zeb, the exact two people Z25 told me the dead suspected.

Make that what you will.

Obviously no one has any reason to believe me (and that's totally fair), but the only person I told about Shiny not jailing because "Opo and uni told them not to" was you.




Sidenote: If shiny didnt jail pokechu. . .why is no one dead? Healer succeeding twice? Opo's substitute?

 

[Holder of the Heel]

WHITE WAS NOT MY GIRLFRIEND

 

[Pokechu]

if y'all want me to guess on who visited opo LOL then lemme guess, might be a little fun

I'd guess Stoopid and Opo himself, he probably used his substitute.

 

[Natz~]

If the godfather chose someone else to kill and then got roleblocked, then that someone else's kill would still go through I believe.

Or am I still not getting it?

nah now its answered~ thank ya, sorry still a newb to fourm mafia on how it runs here ^-^'

There's no way either of them are scum, Zeb knew who the reviver was on Night 1.
Swamp has a role that makes no sense for a scum to have either.

Don't worry, I didn't know about the plan either.

oh....i'm still gonna call uni a jerk for leaving me alongside another person out of the plan

I keep reading gf as girlfriend
But, outside of White's game, Mafia has been able to kill with or without their Girlfriend every time.

lol
okay got it~ those damn nasty girlfriends can get away without doing any of the work

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Obviously no one has any reason to believe me (and that's totally fair), but the only person I told about Shiny not jailing because "Opo and uni told them not to" was you.

Lemme check back the PM.

-does-

You said that, and I quote, a little hamster told you they aren't jailing Pokechu under my orders. That's literally how you started the conversation.

 

[Deleted member]

Petition to officially change the "Godfather" role to "Girlfriend"

Sidenote: If shiny didnt jail pokechu. . .why is no one dead? Healer succeeding twice? Opo's substitute?

I could have been a possible target as well as I did activate my ability.

With one passive bulletproof, a Doctor and my own protection, it's very likely Mafia missed the shot.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Rechecked the Swamp one just to be safe.

I was actually wrong; he never told me about Chu not getting jailed.

Zeb was the only one who knew Chu wouldn't get jailed outside of the people I told it to.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

So yeah, if Pokechu dies and isn't scum, we should put priority into Zeb and Shiny.

 

[Natz~]

sounds good to me

 

[Natz~]

even though i trust zeb fully, after shiny hes next on the list

 

[Swamp Sensei]

If the dead townies thought I was scum then they are dumb.

My ability to recharge abilities is townie oriented, is it not?

Something, some of them knew so...

Moreover I come up clean and we already lynched the godfather/girlfriend.

Voteokechu


Regardless, just in case we are somehow wrong... What do we do?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Lol, I hope that counts as a vote.

Didn't think at would happen.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Lol, I hope that counts as a vote.

Didn't think at would happen.

Did the same thing when I checked Pokechu on Night 3.

They counted it.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

My ability to recharge abilities is townie oriented, is it not?

Recharge abilities?

GIMME MIRACLE EYE

 

[Natz~]

Lol, I hope that counts as a vote.

Didn't think at would happen.

oooooooooooooooh
so thats why shishoe discussed with me over some important things,
damn wished it did work XD

 

[Natz~]

anyway seems pretty cut and clean to me, pokechus already suspicous, he did not come up clean, hes got sketchy excuses, and holes are being poked though

crazy **** has to happen for this to not be a game ender...but if it isn't we just simply continue down the list of what were not certain of, not much else we can do besides clearing crap up

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

If Chu isn't scum, then he's still weaseled his way out of everything too often to be worth keeping around, honestly.

But if he's confirmed to not be scum, then... I dunno. Guess I got 21 hours to think of something lol

 

[Natz~]

If Chu isn't scum, then he's still weaseled his way out of everything too often to be worth keeping around, honestly.

But if he's confirmed to not be scum, then... I dunno. Guess I got 21 hours to think of something lol

well lets start off first
who could possible be NOT scum? based off what we know?

 

[A Distant Demon]

Lemme check back the PM.

-does-

You said that, and I quote, a little hamster told you they aren't jailing Pokechu under my orders. That's literally how you started the conversation.

"the only person I told about Shiny not jailing because "Opo and uni told them not to" was you."

I told you and no one else. Shiny told me. That's what I was trying to imply. Sorry.

I could have been a possible target as well as I did activate my ability.

With one passive bulletproof, a Doctor and my own protection, it's very likely Mafia missed the shot.

Oh alright. For some reason I thought Swamp refreshed you tonight. Derp

well lets start off first
who could possible be NOT scum? based off what we know?

1. You. There is only one way you're scum, and I dont think Praline is enought of a maniac to try it.
2. Opo. Flipped townie
3. Uni. There is no way there is a mafia cop. First of all, that makes no sense. Second, there have been multiple anti-cop mafia abilites
4. Probably swamp. Has helped town with their ability at least twice now.


That leaves me, Shish, pokechu, and Shiny.
Pokechu . . .well the argument has been made
Shish also would probably have picked better targets for similar reasons as swamp.
Shiny linked Opo and Lampy which led to two town deaths and whether they have proven anything or not, mafia roleblocker as jailer is an easy claim.
Only evidence I have for myself is a mafia messenger would be weird and the same reason as swamp and shish. Can't really use Boomburst as evidence when Ram was probably forged and Z25 didn't flip at all. . .

Am I missing anything?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

"the only person I told about Shiny not jailing because "Opo and uni told them not to" was you."

I told you and no one else. Shiny told me. That's what I was trying to imply. Sorry.

Damn... you've ascended from "typos" to "being bad at words in general"

Did you evolve last night?

 

[redfeatherraven]

WHITE WAS NOT MY GIRLFRIEND

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial

 

[A Distant Demon]

Damn... you've ascended from "typos" to "being bad at words in general"

Did you evolve last night?

Exploud doesn't have a mega evolution

Also. . .this is just a formality. Shiny just making sure you properly Un-jailed right? Even bolded it?

 

[Natz~]

"the only person I told about Shiny not jailing because "Opo and uni told them not to" was you."

I told you and no one else. Shiny told me. That's what I was trying to imply. Sorry.

Oh alright. For some reason I thought Swamp refreshed you tonight. Derp

1. You. There is only one way you're scum, and I dont think Praline is enought of a maniac to try it.
2. Opo. Flipped townie
3. Uni. There is no way there is a mafia cop. First of all, that makes no sense. Second, there have been multiple anti-cop mafia abilites
4. Probably swamp. Has helped town with their ability at least twice now.


That leaves me, Shish, pokechu, and Shiny.
Pokechu . . .well the argument has been made
Shish also would probably have picked better targets for similar reasons as swamp.
Shiny linked Opo and Lampy which led to two town deaths and whether they have proven anything or not, mafia roleblocker as jailer is an easy claim.
Only evidence I have for myself is a mafia messenger would be weird and the same reason as swamp and shish. Can't really use Boomburst as evidence when Ram was probably forged and Z25 didn't flip at all. . .

Am I missing anything?

nah ya pretty much stated everything quite well~

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

4. Probably swamp. Has helped town with their ability at least twice now.

They also hindered the town once because Lib.

Just saying.

 

[A Distant Demon]

They also hindered the town once because Lib.

Just saying.

I mean. . .so did Shiny with the linking if we want to get technical.

Was it for time-stopping? because town sort of forced that one out of him. Myself included.