POKÉMAFIA: TOWN WINS

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Oh yeah, I forgot Stoopid basically said what his role was already.
So, Liberation, White and Pokechu are the only remaining suspects left.

Might as well just say it if like, four or five people already know it lol

And we know there's, at the very least, a cop and a reviver based on Mafia role text for the former and me still being here for the latter. Did I miss anyone?

I'm Xatu and I'm your cop, guys.

Checked Shiny on night 1. Came clean, but given last night's events, he could be our clean scum.

Checked White last night. Also came clean.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Maybe all Salzzle did was buff the kill, not the cleaning.
In my Mafia game, Jack's body hiding was a separate skill and not tied to her kills.

Cori was a Strong(wo)man. What if that was the action that was doubled?

 

[Deleted member]

I think you need to reread that PM.

Just did, lol, my bad.
Lib claimed Commuter to me, dunno what's their true ability though

Cori was a Strong(wo)man. What if that was the action that was doubled?

I mean, wouldn't that get through Zeb's reflector? I'm assuming they wouldn't waste a Strongman shot on someone who didn't seem like they would be protected.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I mean, wouldn't that get through Zeb's reflector? I'm assuming they wouldn't waste a Strongman shot on someone who didn't seem like they would be protected.

Maybe they assumed Zeb was doing a reverse psychology trick?

 

[Wolfie557]

A Distant Demon would be useful to know how extacly your reflect works.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Also, Coricus' role specifically says "cannot be blocked"

That seems to only be for blocking abilities, while Zeb isn't really that. He's a reflector. The kill still happens, it's just done to the attacked rather than the target.

 

[Pokechu]

I THINK I SOLVED IT

https://smashboards.com/threads/pokÉmafia-an-uncertain-day-on-pokÉ-pelago.453722/page-45

Look at the image links for Krookodile and Ledian in the flavor text. They come from pokemondb.

But Salazzle for RamOne? It comes from imgur.

Is it possible that RamOne's PM was forged!?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Or at least, that's my theory on it.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I THINK I SOLVED IT

https://smashboards.com/threads/pokÉmafia-an-uncertain-day-on-pokÉ-pelago.453722/page-45

Look at the image links for Krookodile and Ledian in the flavor text. They come from pokemondb.

But Salazzle for RamOne? It comes from imgur.

Is it possible that RamOne's PM was forged!?

I don't think that means anything...

 

[Opossum]

I THINK I SOLVED IT

https://smashboards.com/threads/pokÉmafia-an-uncertain-day-on-pokÉ-pelago.453722/page-45

Look at the image links for Krookodile and Ledian in the flavor text. They come from pokemondb.

But Salazzle for RamOne? It comes from imgur.

Is it possible that RamOne's PM was forged!?

We're getting into Galactic Brain stuff now.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, Coricus' role specifically says "cannot be blocked"

That seems to only be for blocking abilities, while Zeb isn't really that. He's a reflector. The kill still happens, it's just done to the attacked rather than the target.

Strongman, by default, ignore any roleblocks, bulletproofs, hiders, protections or redirections. Maybe it's different this time around but this is how they usually work.
Besides, which Mafioso tried to kill Zeb doesn't make any difference in the end.

I THINK I SOLVED IT

https://smashboards.com/threads/pokÉmafia-an-uncertain-day-on-pokÉ-pelago.453722/page-45

Look at the image links for Krookodile and Ledian in the flavor text. They come from pokemondb.

But Salazzle for RamOne? It comes from imgur.

Is it possible that RamOne's PM was forged!?

Pac-Man in the clouds.

 

[Pokechu]

I don't think that means anything...

Why would the host stick to specifically pokemondb for the images, and then move to imgur for Salazzle?

I'm checking right now and it seems like ALL images, Goldie, Opo, Cori, Lampy, they're all from pokemondb

 

[A Distant Demon]

@Swampasaur you are basically describing a commuter in the PM tho. Just an X shot version (which is not abnormal apparently). They still haven't said their pokemon and ignored my PM pretty much

Also, just realized our last member is probably godfather. Our 3 mafia members are all "come up as suspicious"


Wolfie557 one time per game I can reflect an action on me. Someone attacked me, so they died. If I was healed, I probably would have died because the heal would have been reflected since it's only one action lol

 

[A Distant Demon]

I dont even know how you're checking the image source. All I get is Smashboards proxy

 

[Wolfie557]

Oh yeah, I forgot Stoopid basically said what his role was already.
So, Liberation, White and Pokechu are the only remaining suspects left.

Wait what? We discussed this last Night I thought his claim was indeed Commuter

Mafia kills 2 but one is reflected, so it goes back to who performed the kill.
Salazzle buffs Krokoodile, they target Zeb and Z25, Zeb reflects it and Krokoodile and Z25 die

ohhh I get it.

but.

One person does the killing. Ram allowing that person to get 2 targets for the kill...so kills Z25 yes. But fails to kill Zeb and zeb reflects it back to Coricus.

Shouldn't Z25 be alive if the mafia killer is dead thanks to Zeb??? I dont think thats what happened.

Generally everything happens at the same time, so Coricus dying means he couldnt have killed anyone right?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Strongman, by default, ignore any roleblocks, bulletproofs, hiders, protections or redirections. Maybe it's different this time around but this is how they usually work.
Besides, which Mafioso tried to kill Zeb doesn't make any difference in the end.

Yeah...

Wait... what if Ram could use that doubling ability on himself?

Why would the host stick to specifically pokemondb for the images, and then move to imgur for Salazzle?

I'm checking right now and it seems like ALL images, Goldie, Opo, Cori, Lampy, they're all from pokemondb

Still feels pretty...



Farfetch'd

 

[Pokechu]

I dont even know how you're checking the image source. All I get is Smashboards proxy

https://smashboards.com/proxy.php?image=https://smashboards.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%252Fartwork%252Fledian.jpg%26hash%3D421e383e404b68f3b521408293d8dbde&hash=f71d4cb1c03962853ad9544ad441525c ledian

https://smashboards.com/proxy.php?image=https://img.pokemondb.net%2Fartwork%2Fkrookodile.jpg&hash=3cdfd027c167c07d59c50bc1e7dff06f krookodile

https://smashboards.com/proxy.php?image=https://i.imgur.com%2FWujEC0J.png&hash=f563b32885894873d248bebcc0dd8a3d salazzle

Why just her, out of all the roles we've seen?

 

[Deleted member]

Shouldn't Z25 be alive if the mafia killer is dead thanks to Zeb??? I dont think thats what happened.

Actions are simultaneous, should a player kill another while getting killed, the kill still goes through. Kills aren't roleblocks

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Also, just realized our last member is probably godfather. Our 3 mafia members are all "come up as suspicious"

Considering that we started with more people than usual (18), I think there might me more than one scum left.

 

[Pokechu]

https://smashboards.com/proxy.php?image=https://img.pokemondb.net%2Fartwork%2Flucario.jpg&hash=d97289e9c5430345951a06593bb42e09 lucario

https://smashboards.com/proxy.php?image=https://img.pokemondb.net%2Fartwork%2Fseviper.jpg&hash=c13c187877f787b6d6dbc123f3825cc1 seviper

You guys see a pattern?

 

[Opossum]

So what you're saying is...GodForger Smeargle?

 

[A Distant Demon]

lmao, I really hope you aren't lying pokechu. Being saved by imgur of all things would be godlike

 

[Natz~]

Katt just got back and is lost, can I get patched up?

Tried reading through but didn't understand much

 

[Pokechu]

So what you're saying is...GodForger Smeargle?

I definitely believe it was forged, yes. We've seen two legit mafia so far, Coricus and Holder. If this guy has a forging ability though, it may be possible it's their only ability, considering how Coricus had just her strongman kill. We can find out who this person is by seeing who hasn't acted at all during the game!

 

[A Distant Demon]

Everyone in the thread, check your role PMs. Mine is pokemonDB too.

This might be the dumbest turnabout ever, but it's possible

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Everyone in the thread, check your role PMs. Mine is pokemonDB too.

This might be the dumbest turnabout ever, but it's possible

I'm pokemonDB as well.

 

[Natz~]

Pokemondb here

 

[Natz~]

Also still lost, wats this forget nonsense? what happened to janitor @-@

 

[A Distant Demon]

unvote: pokechu
Vote: Shiny legendary

at least until anyone says they dont have pokemonDB or Shiny comes forward

 

[Pokechu]

PROVEN ACTIONS

WhiteEaglePL
The Stoopid Unikorn
Shishœ GLADIATOR
Opossum lol he was revived
Swampasaur
Natz~
Zeb~ ANNOUNCER
Liberation
ShinyLegendary SHIPPER/JAILKEEPER
Pokechu INVENTOR/USED ROLEBLOCK

Stoopid's the cop though, and Swamp is the phase stopper. Swamp is dead set on Natz being townie as well. I think that this means Liberation and White should be our main suspects right now. IDK Liberation's claim though so maybe someone knows of his towniness?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

PROVEN ACTIONS

WhiteEaglePL
The Stoopid Unikorn
Shishœ GLADIATOR
Opossum lol he was revived
Swampasaur
Natz~
Zeb~ ANNOUNCER
Liberation
ShinyLegendary SHIPPER/JAILKEEPER
Pokechu INVENTOR/USED ROLEBLOCK

Stoopid's the cop though, and Swamp is the phase stopper. Swamp is dead set on Natz being townie as well. I think that this means Liberation and White should be our main suspects right now. IDK Liberation's claim though so maybe someone knows of his towniness?

Shiny's jailkeeper isn't proven lol

If anything, it was proven to be a lie because Ram is dead

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Only his linker ability was proven.

 

[Wolfie557]

soo...

• ram is a townie that got forged
• coricus is a mafia that tried to kill....ram because shiny jailed ram
• z25 is a serial killer that tried to kill zeb but got reflected and died.

i think that makes sense.

Cori was a Strong(wo)man. What if that was the action that was doubled?

yh. but if that was doubled we shouldn't have gotten 3 kills, only 2.

 

[Pokechu]

Shiny's jailkeeper isn't proven lol

If anything, it was proven to be a lie because Ram is dead

oh good point

If anything though, we know he's a shipper at least. It's possible Coricus used her strongman ability on Ram too, so even if Shiny jailed Ram he would have died

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

soo...

• ram is a townie that got forged
• coricus is a mafia that tried to kill....ram because shiny jailed ram
• z25 is a serial killer that tried to kill zeb but got reflected and died.

i think that makes sense.

How did Coricus die then?

 

[Pokechu]

What if Shiny linked both Coricus and Ram? That way Coricus killed Ram, but due to the shipping she went down as well.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

What if Shiny linked both Coricus and Ram? That way Coricus killed Ram, but due to the shipping she went down as well.

Shiny told me he could only link once in the game.

 

[Pokechu]

Shiny told me he could only link once in the game.

hmm phooey that pops a hole in that...

 

[Wolfie557]

and i guess either z25 cleaned himself or a mafia cleaned z25, but that means they targeted z25 so unlikley.
Its possible that

• coricus tried to kill zeb.
• but then what of ram and z25...so I highly doubt it.

 

[A Distant Demon]

For the record, unless someone has an imgur link, my 3 targets are indeed Liberation, Shiny, and Whiteeagle.

Pokechu might be on the right course lol.


WhiteEaglePL (claimed can make someone else a commuter I guess?)
The Stoopid Unikorn
Shishœ GLADIATOR
Opossum substitute
Swampasaur
Natz~
Zeb~ ANNOUNCER
Liberation (claimed commuter thing)
ShinyLegendary SHIPPER/JAILKEEPER
Pokechu INVENTOR

Current standing. Natz proved their role. Swamp probably proved their role to me. I GUESS they could be evil, but I doubt it. Ditto for shish. Naturally, I painted myself green

Only 4 variables, unless someone finds the need to think im suspicious