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PMCE (Complete Extension) PACKAGE 2 - UPDATE IS LIVE!!! ENJOY!!!
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PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
Old codes did to some extent. New codes: no lag. We've recently updated ours, so I'll make sure to post it tomorrow for anyone that is concerned.
Eisen
Smash Ace
Yo Dmick, would it be cool if I posted a screenshot of the SSS and maaaybe the HUD to give people an idea of what's up? I feel like the more we give little bits of info, the more hype that'll come before this thread goes ignored by people who lose faith in what we've shown so far, er... something...
Edit: Oh, I meant to ask:
UNOFFICIAL POLL/CENSUS
Who here would prefer a "balanced" Big Blue (that is, The main platform is Falcon Flyer, with another jet-propelled platform above) over standard Big Blue? And yes, Big Blue kind of needs to be in this pack (at least, in my opinion) because the only other F-Zero stage to use at this point is Port Town. And leaving either one out would be a darn shame.
Edit: Oh, I meant to ask:
UNOFFICIAL POLL/CENSUS
Who here would prefer a "balanced" Big Blue (that is, The main platform is Falcon Flyer, with another jet-propelled platform above) over standard Big Blue? And yes, Big Blue kind of needs to be in this pack (at least, in my opinion) because the only other F-Zero stage to use at this point is Port Town. And leaving either one out would be a darn shame.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
I guess so, as long as we acknowledge that it's a WIP.
Do you have a link to the Big Blue stage? Even I haven't seen it yet. haha Sounds like a good idea, though.
210stuna
Smash Lord
Go for the Big Blue stage.
Not to sound grim or anything, but I plan on replacing some stuff anyways when the final thing comes out.
Not to sound grim or anything, but I plan on replacing some stuff anyways when the final thing comes out.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
As long as you like something, we're happy. Everyone's got their preferences.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
Okay; I'm going to start posting photos of our work onto the second comment of this post. Note that I personally don't own any capturing device, so these are all in .jpg format and ingame, which also means I personally can't show off the HUD and whatnot.
I've got a couple pics already lined up (although I'm going to take a few more), but if anyone would like some for specific characters, the new stages, or some other aspect of the game, please let me know.
Here's the album. More will come eventually.
http://imgur.com/a/epZDm
I've got a couple pics already lined up (although I'm going to take a few more), but if anyone would like some for specific characters, the new stages, or some other aspect of the game, please let me know.
Just figured I'd quote you to make sure you heard about it.
Here's the album. More will come eventually.
http://imgur.com/a/epZDm
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
Also, here is that .gct as promised (although I guess it's passed "today"). Sorry about that.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/43tNs1tNj4/
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/43tNs1tNj4/
210stuna
Smash Lord
Nice captions, ha.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
I couldn't help but do it. haha
That, and the Cruel Melee thing was something I thought a lot of people could relate to (seven year old me fell for it). So much wasted time.
Eisen
Smash Ace
Yo, sorry I'm late on doing this, but it's taken me days to compile a bunch of stages together, and in general I've been busy irl and doing things here, so...
Anyway, here's shots of the HUD. I apologize, I don't have a capture device and software running right now but this should suffice.
Disclaimer: All contents shown in images are subject to change.
As some of you can tell, the BPs are just Shun's with standard Brawl BP images (we're hoping to fix that soon).
Let me know what you guys think, in particular in regards to the timer font... It's kind of something not set in stone, so if you guys can find a font you'd like to see there instead... let me know. Either that or we can release our packages with the normal timer, but I'll inform people of how to go about editing HUDs since I don't think it's as commonly known how to do as say, texture hacking.
The SSS:
Man, you don't even know how long I've been working on this thing. Hours and hours of looking up stage IDs, finding their proper .rel files, compiling the SSS, oftentimes making my own SSPs. It's a royal pain in the ass. But I do it because I care... ... Probably too much.
The CSS:
Honestly, I don't even know how many of these are in my copy of the game yet. There are a ton of missing textures as is, and on top of it, we still need to make sure that they don't desync wifi or do something else nefarious.
Anyways, enough of that. We've been working on stages mostly lately, and right now we're at the stage where we're trying to decide which stages are staying in this pack, which ones are going in the second, which will be featured in both, etc... So, feedback, again, is important. Remember, the first pack is just for more "fun, unique, creative, professional" stages, basically. At least, I think so? Pack 2 is gonna be more about the viables and what have you.
Also, I'm trying to be really keen on public feedback. Are there any stages you guys see that you really think should be replaced with something else, or the opposite? Be honest, and be open. I'd rather not be a part of something that releases and the public doesn't even enjoy the content, so, yeah. Majority rules, people. Er, helps or something (I don't think I'm in the position to make statements like that ahahahaha). Start participating here! Invite your friends to do the same.
Anyway, here's shots of the HUD. I apologize, I don't have a capture device and software running right now but this should suffice.
Disclaimer: All contents shown in images are subject to change.
As some of you can tell, the BPs are just Shun's with standard Brawl BP images (we're hoping to fix that soon).
Let me know what you guys think, in particular in regards to the timer font... It's kind of something not set in stone, so if you guys can find a font you'd like to see there instead... let me know. Either that or we can release our packages with the normal timer, but I'll inform people of how to go about editing HUDs since I don't think it's as commonly known how to do as say, texture hacking.
The SSS:
Man, you don't even know how long I've been working on this thing. Hours and hours of looking up stage IDs, finding their proper .rel files, compiling the SSS, oftentimes making my own SSPs. It's a royal pain in the ass. But I do it because I care... ... Probably too much.
The CSS:
Honestly, I don't even know how many of these are in my copy of the game yet. There are a ton of missing textures as is, and on top of it, we still need to make sure that they don't desync wifi or do something else nefarious.
Anyways, enough of that. We've been working on stages mostly lately, and right now we're at the stage where we're trying to decide which stages are staying in this pack, which ones are going in the second, which will be featured in both, etc... So, feedback, again, is important. Remember, the first pack is just for more "fun, unique, creative, professional" stages, basically. At least, I think so? Pack 2 is gonna be more about the viables and what have you.
Also, I'm trying to be really keen on public feedback. Are there any stages you guys see that you really think should be replaced with something else, or the opposite? Be honest, and be open. I'd rather not be a part of something that releases and the public doesn't even enjoy the content, so, yeah. Majority rules, people. Er, helps or something (I don't think I'm in the position to make statements like that ahahahaha). Start participating here! Invite your friends to do the same.
210stuna
Smash Lord
That HUD looks delicious guys, and the SSS is really extravagant. This will be my first experiencing using the stage expansion pack, so you can imagine how patiently stoked I am for this to be done.
As for cBliss...I have a question. Will cBliss be included in both downloadable packs, or is it an add-on that can be downloaded alongside both packs, if desired? Either way, won't it be tedious as a Mo to get CSP's, after battle portraits, and corresponding HUDs to match with the extra character textures added with cBliss? I'm wondering if all of the added textures won't be able to be so ideal like that, then if it could be downloaded as an option for people who want to have their build looking professional?
Another question to get things straight with me, will the 1st build be centered around getting everything sent out asap, like including the default vBrawl stages/character textures and having "cool" looking stages added for that fun factor? While the 2nd pack is centered around neutral stages people have made to be played competitively by replacing stages like Luigi's Mansion/Big Blue/Onett/Corneria/Temple, and others having modifications done to them like P:M's Norfair stage that Sluigi did here, and replacing the default vBrawl's Frigate Orpheon with the one that doesn't have moving platforms?
I say that because I see those kind of stages in the pic up there, and I'm just wondering if everything will stay like that or will be changed depending on Pack 1 or Pack 2.
This post is in no way intended to be seen as demanding. I just want to be clear on what y'all are doing exactly, and even more clear with my concern so you guys could respond accordingly.
Again sorry for the wall of text. This post was made possible by the outreach you guys wanted on feedback.
Also I'm a bit underwhelmed that your thread has so many views, but is on the short side when it comes to responds. Such work you guys are putting into this, it reminds me why the Project:M scene is so wonderful the way it is today, because of people like you working together getting stuff done the way you all want! If nobody will post in here motivating y'all. Then I will. We all know there will be people who look at the thread and download without even saying a simple thank you. So I want you all to know, that by me saying thank you, I don't mean it just from me, but for all the people who read this post and don't bother to post it.
Thank you for all the stuff you guys have done!
As for cBliss...I have a question. Will cBliss be included in both downloadable packs, or is it an add-on that can be downloaded alongside both packs, if desired? Either way, won't it be tedious as a Mo to get CSP's, after battle portraits, and corresponding HUDs to match with the extra character textures added with cBliss? I'm wondering if all of the added textures won't be able to be so ideal like that, then if it could be downloaded as an option for people who want to have their build looking professional?
Another question to get things straight with me, will the 1st build be centered around getting everything sent out asap, like including the default vBrawl stages/character textures and having "cool" looking stages added for that fun factor? While the 2nd pack is centered around neutral stages people have made to be played competitively by replacing stages like Luigi's Mansion/Big Blue/Onett/Corneria/Temple, and others having modifications done to them like P:M's Norfair stage that Sluigi did here, and replacing the default vBrawl's Frigate Orpheon with the one that doesn't have moving platforms?
I say that because I see those kind of stages in the pic up there, and I'm just wondering if everything will stay like that or will be changed depending on Pack 1 or Pack 2.
This post is in no way intended to be seen as demanding. I just want to be clear on what y'all are doing exactly, and even more clear with my concern so you guys could respond accordingly.
Again sorry for the wall of text. This post was made possible by the outreach you guys wanted on feedback.
Also I'm a bit underwhelmed that your thread has so many views, but is on the short side when it comes to responds. Such work you guys are putting into this, it reminds me why the Project:M scene is so wonderful the way it is today, because of people like you working together getting stuff done the way you all want! If nobody will post in here motivating y'all. Then I will. We all know there will be people who look at the thread and download without even saying a simple thank you. So I want you all to know, that by me saying thank you, I don't mean it just from me, but for all the people who read this post and don't bother to post it.
Thank you for all the stuff you guys have done!
uCooL
Smash Ace
You guys should include the "no player tags" code in both packages. (i didnt see it mentioned in the OP)
libertyernie
Smash Ace
If you guys need any stages moved around/replaced, I'd be willing to help! Especially since I just made a program that lets me do it really quickly.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
Okay, cool! I'm pretty sure we used your CSE as a base in the first place, and we're also using your costume and stage managers (that's the program, right?).
I'm away from a computer right now, but when I get to one, I'll let you in on our conversation and send you a link to our stuff!
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
I think you'll love the stages.
As of now, I think we're intending to include cBliss for all packages. We're using SJS's CSPs and BPs, which covers basically everything, so we're pretty much covered there. However, you're right in that he hasn't done absolutely every texture, so there are some differences in style. We intend to make requests later on to fix this. Adding the CSPs/BPs is actually quite easy with libertyernie's costume manager, though.
The first build will probably take longer, actually. Rather than focus on releasing with barebones material, we want a whole lot of awesome content that is generally not tourney-focused. This includes costumes, which is my focus right now. You've got the idea for Package 2.
There will likely be changes for those slots, yeah.
We totally appreciate your interest/concern, don't worry.
I couldn't agree more. It might be because we haven't released a lot of information as well, but getting questions/comments tells us what people are looking for and keeps us going. Thank you for displaying that.
It's no problem. We'll work on building the hype train a little more, too.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
This is news to me. I'll look into it; thanks!
Amazerommu
Smash Lord
I was ever so upset when I beat like 22 doods and was not greeted with the "A Challenger Approaches" or whatever it says at the end of it...
To (hopefully) answer a few of your questions regarding the stages and stuff, there is actually gonna be two packs. One (the one Eisen has demoed above) is purely for fun. Basically finding some of the most diverse and/or unique/weird stages to be played on, not to mention the best quality stages with the fewest glitches (preferrably none at all). I like to think of it as Brawlified Project M. The other version is going to be a more competitive build with stages that align more with Project M's standard of neutrality and tournament play.
As for cBliss, I'm not 100% sure what we're going to do with that. I do believe that all the CSP's and BP's and such will be filled in when it's finally released however, so I wouldn't worry about having to fill in any of those cosmetics.
Wrestlemania
The Steel Chair
Hey guys, I have asked this in another forum but I feel like this isn't the worst place to ask as those forums are not being looked at.
While installing cBliss I accidentally returned the CSS to vBrawl colors instead of PM colors. Is that because I replaced the sel_charactermap file?
While installing cBliss I accidentally returned the CSS to vBrawl colors instead of PM colors. Is that because I replaced the sel_charactermap file?
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
That seems pretty likely to me. Go through your new file in BrawlBox, and see if it has Brawl images. That's what I'd start with.
shadow0x0cloud
Smash Apprentice
Actually, can you make this optional? I like my tag.
turtletank
Smash Journeyman
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It's a matter of preference, so I don't think that would be a good idea. You could always add the code yourself via GCT fusioner though.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
Yeah, I meant that we would consider making it an option. I use them, too.
Pwnz0rz Man
Smash Lord
It sounds like an interesting and ambitious project, I'm a little curious if it's going to throw in alternate texture models completely though, like Cloud over Ike, or Sephiroth over Marth, or obscure and random stuff like Hitler Mario or something like that. I sincerely hope that's not the case. In any case though, good luck to you with finishing this. I look forward to seeing the completed product.
Galaga
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It is going to be like that for Package 1. Package 2 however is supposed to be more competitive-friendly.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
That was/is the intention, yes (although I didn't much like Hitler Mario). Our goal is to have each model not cause any issues with gameplay, of course, so don't worry over that.
If this doesn't sit well with you, Package 2 will likely be more up your alley. For now, it's mostly the crazier stuff. Sorry if that's not what you were looking for.
Pwnz0rz Man
Smash Lord
It's cool, I've been pretty strict with my current custom compilation. I've only been using things appropriate to the characters and their games, like only canon Mario costumes or forcing alternate textures to still be of that character, Lord Ike or Awakening Marth for instance. I'm going for something that feels like something Nintendo might come up with themselves, (Which is a shame because I had Teenage Mutant Ninja Squirtles and my own restrictions kept me from using them.) Of course, alternate non-canon color schemes are fine, just so long as they don't drastically alter one person into another.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
The beauty of cBliss is that we can have both, and we will. I see your point, though.
Pwnz0rz Man
Smash Lord
I've basically taken it to be a challenge to myself to limit the visual customization to character appropriate stuff. Music on the other hand is fair game, otherwise how could I keep myself away from the wonderful themes of Y's, and other random games with fantastic music.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
Amusingly enough, we've been pretty conservative with music thus far, only adding in things that totally make sense for the stages in question. If you have some favorites that you think would work well, send them our way.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
Okay, I just learned of the perfection that is the Blue Falcon 30. Watch this if you're unfamiliar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QghzltwLm8
I think my favorites right now are 10, 13, 17, 22, and 27, but they're all amazing. I can't decide for the life of me which one is best.
Vote here: http://poll.pollcode.com/m4i9n
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QghzltwLm8
I think my favorites right now are 10, 13, 17, 22, and 27, but they're all amazing. I can't decide for the life of me which one is best.
Vote here: http://poll.pollcode.com/m4i9n
Amazerommu
Smash Lord
Wow... My friend literally sent me that same video a few minutes ago. lol
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
That's really weird. haha
You should vote too if you've already watched it. It's so hard to narrow it down.
Eisen
Smash Ace
Hey guys, just letting people know here that I was having a bit of IRL issues the past few days but should be back on the team at least part time. I need to be brought up to speed on some things like that Blue Falcon 30 stuff but after I do a few things first tonight. So basically this project should move a little bit quicker now that I'm not totally out of things.
I appreciate all the positive feedback by the way everybody. It's definitely uplifting, and gives us even more reason to work hard for y'all.
I appreciate all the positive feedback by the way everybody. It's definitely uplifting, and gives us even more reason to work hard for y'all.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
I'm glad you got that stuff sorted out, man! Watch the video for the Blue Falcon 30. I think you'll like it.
Couldn't agree more.
Eisen
Smash Ace
Voting time. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, young and old, project staff and regular members, please choose a favorite (or a few favorites) among these for a timer font:
Feel free to disagree with me, but it seems like with the things going as is, the font needs to be a little "angular" and exotic in a way. I've gathered up a few scifi and pixelated fonts. Opinions? Unfitting mood setter? Dumb?? What's the concensus here?
Also keep in mind I'll be doing a tutorial at some point on how to make your own timer/HUD mods.
Also keep in mind I'll be doing a tutorial at some point on how to make your own timer/HUD mods.
PseudoTypical
Smash Lord
I honestly like the font you have in the previews (I think it's #2 here?). Some of them seem a little too pixelated to work well with the GC font you've got elsewhere in the HUD (which is great IMO).
SwordsRbroken
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I like the more pixelated black pixel ones with the white outline. Reminds me of my Gameboy Color days.
Mr.Jackpot
Smash Lord
4th, 5th, and 4th from the bottom look like they blend nicely with the HUD but to be honest it's impossible to tell without seeing it in game.