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Simna ibn Sind

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I'm bringing this out into the open, IC players. This needs to be discussed(lol).

What do you do when your IC or other IC gets hit by PK Fire? What measures do you take to make sure both your ICs don't get hit by PK Fire?

Also, when you do get PK Fired and lose hope on escaping....what do you like to talk about while your ICs burn?^_^
 

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Usually I can't focus on the first 50 percent of the match, because my opponent is playing as Ness and I can't stop laughing.

Silly Simna with your yoyo and hat.

Seriously though, my response is basically DI'ing down and away to get to the ground, then pulling up the shield. Nana can't DI and there's not really much you can do to help her other than stop the Ness from getting her with a f-smash.
 

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Nana is the main focus of this topic really^_^...once Popo gets hit wit it Nana gets caught cause she runs in...or nana just gets hit herself, but I don't mean a single PK Fire....

I mean....PK Fire again...and again....and again...AND AGAIN! on nana when she is stuck in the fire. Ness can hit Nana with an aerial and with time to continue using PK Fires like forever...meanwhile there is a wall of fire between Ness and Popo...a wall that also blocks icicles...

...its sort of like a wobbles infinite that only works against ICs^_^ lol almost
 

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I dunno, last I checked I just grabbed Ness and d-throw chained him a couple times until Nana gets free. Then it becomes a blizzard d-throw d-air chain. Afterwards I'm pretty sure Simna, err Ness died.
 

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:cry:

Poor Nana.

Simna I really want to play you again.

I still don't know how exactly to deal with this technique. My first priority would to NOT GET HIT BY IT. Nanapults should work for that, along with Ice Block spam. Overall I would try playing a defensive game and not rushing in to get PK Fired.

If I did get hit with it I would probably try to DI down and towards Ness. Then I might be able to get a shieldgrab if the Ness keeps bad spacing, or at the very least it would stop Nana from getting hit for a second, then I can desynch Ice Blocks while I retreat.

Its a hell of a lot easier to beat a Ness who doesn't know about this, btw. Although it definitely helps that he isn't as good as Ness... er.. Simna.
 

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lol Simna, I kid. Anyways, you did use that PK fire thing that no sane Ness player would use, and it messed Nana up a few times. But remember, no sane Ness player doesn't use it not without good reason! I remember that whenever you missed or any insane Ness player missed, he or she was either grabbed, wavesmashed, or punished in some other excruciating manner.

Unfortunately when it does land Nana becomes more ******** than usual and racks up damage. Fortunately however, Popo is only as ******** as the IC player. Simple hopping and firing an iceblock will either cause Ness to dodge, absorb, or get hit by it. All of the following which lead to Nana escaping, after taking 20% or so.

PK Fire also collides with ice blocks, which is kinda lame cause ice block spamming doesn't work too well. The worst part is the flame stays there and nullifies any other ice blocks that are Nessbound.

Downwards DI? Anyways, seems like you got 2 options: go towards Ness or away from him. I guess if you DI away you could frantically try and air dodge, roll, or wavedash away. None of which really seem to promising. DI'ing towards Ness and going for the shieldgrab seems like the better idea to me. Granted that most the time if the Ness manages to land a PK Fire, they'll usually just follow it up with a foward smash. Seems like an easy moment to WD outta shield and punish Ness, but at the same time seems kinda risky because he'll probably be able to land the f-smash first. On the other hand it's better than DI'ing away and getting creamed while DI'ing the wrong way :-/ Hmm... guess I didn't know as much as a though about this...

In conclusion don't worry about it, cause there aren't any Nesses dumb enough to use it, and very few that are smart enough to use it effectively.
 

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Only one problem.... the only Ness that is competition for me is Simna :(. And Simna doesn't like Nana. Unless of course you count char-broiled Nanaburgers. Nanaburgers are how Simna relaxes before his next match.

Nanaburgers!! On sale now wherever PK Fire is used!
 

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if Popo DI'd towards me i would prolly run away like a little girl....with something like a running short hopped reverse pk fire to hit nana and get on the other side^_^

btw did u know that IC dsmash is so fast that you can sit inside PK Fire and get the first hit of the dsmash to come out
 

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Roll -> Dsmash if he looks like he's using the bat, but I don't know how I would beat a "real" ness player on this.
 

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Maybe.... I didn't think of that. Simna let's try that out today if you're going to enders. Zink I don't think it would get Popo out but it might toss Nana free, because she gets invincibility frames.

Oh and Simna when I did it to you I was DI/ASDIing down/CCing too.
 

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I DI up and back (There's less fire in air than ground so I can escape faster)
While doing this I charge a Fsmash, Dsmash, or shoot an Ice Block with the free IC to prevent my opponent from doing a combo. (Cause when I play Ness he always comes in for the Fsmash or Fair, so I can catch him off guard with my free IC)
 

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Everyone knows the best tactic is abandon Nana and just fight the Ness yourself. After all, it's only Ness.
 

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it had to be you Simna....you had to be the one who posted this...lol!

well...i talk about..."come on nana! come on nana DI! NANA!!! *crying*"

and then I grab you and forward smash you or down smash you...you've seen me do that SImna lol
 

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Yeah that **** J_Delphiki guy....with his crappy character.

But yeah the DI down D-smash works......Cave that's easier said than done though....Simna doesn't just stand around for Popo to hit him while Nana gets turned into fast food. lol see my posts above ^_^.

I don't think Simna has ever gone his best against you..or even near it....sorry to say but that's prolly the truth.
 

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Yeah since practically Simna will jump straight at you and use forward air, or back air while you try and get out of the pk fire

and yes I know thats the truth
 
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