Pillar help

[Aether_Lord]

Hi im new, and i have one question for all you falco experts but... how do you guys do pillar so good. I usually get grabbed during my pillar combos.... any harsh advice to keep me motivated would be appriciated^^

 

[MrBitter]

If you're getting grabbed, you're not l-cancelling properly... Your shine should come out almost instantly...

Work on your l-cancels, continue to practice, pillaring will come.

 

[Aether_Lord]

Ok thanks for the advice ill do that but what move do you do to start a shine combo. I use Dair but iunno if most ppl do that what do most ppl actually use? sorry for a lot of questions if it irritates you >.<

 

[Leoneri]

You can start out with dair or nair.

 

[Aether_Lord]

Ok ive been practicing I'm getting a lil better but still seem to get open... call me a noob but Tell me exactly what i should do. I do know to L-cancel but tell me step by step what I should do to not get open... sorry I can't seem to find the right post that people post on the forums to help me, but i need advice straight up towards me not that the advice is to other players reading. Remember I want to be great not good. I hate Marth users

 

[LaserBust]

When you say not get open i take it you mean not to get shield grabbed.. If thats the case then you should be doing something like.. Shffl dair > shine > shffl dair Blah blah..Short hop, cstick down, fast fall, lcancel then down B, then repeat. Ahh, and don't forget to shine cancel.

 

[predatorxii]

cstick? i prefer the a button but meh different strokes for different blokes but its 6 and half a dozen

 

[d_shep04]

it's not that hard to pillar. you already have the basics down if your even trying it. now all you have to do is practice is over and over until you are good and consistant at it... i'll briefly try to explain it...

1. shs (short hop spike) or jump (which ever jump your doing first) and spike
2. hit the opponent (hopefully)
3. land
4. l-cancel right away (you can tell when you dont l-cancel this b/c of the lag)
5. shine back up
6. process of copy and repeat...

sorry i didnt go into much detail... but if you need more help send me a message and i'll go into full detail...

 

[predatorxii]

Best way to practice pillaring is to lvl 1 bowser with 0.5 damage ratio and his handicap at 9 ur at 1 and just do this steps

1. SHFFL'd Dair
2. Shine
3. Shine cancel
4. SHFFL'd Dair
5. Shine
6. Shine cancel

etc etc hope this helps

 

[SCOTU]

you can use z to do the dair to get it out faster if you prefer, just do it at one frame slower timing than a jc grab. I personally use the c-stick, while not as fast, it's easier for me to fast fall with.

 

[LieutenantSerg]

Your timing could be off when you L-cancel if your hitting them while they are in there shield, becuase when you hit the shield it slows you down a bit, enough to mess up your L-cancel. Also, you should be jumping after every shine to cancel the lag from the shine too.

 

[Aether_Lord]

Sorry that i didnt reply back you guys. Smashboards been slow. You guys are right. I was slow on my L-cancel. and i wasnt fast enough to cancel shine to not get grab. i did one pillar on my big bro on his marth and he said " wow couldnt grab you that time" Was lucky to follow you guys advice. But still kinda noobish on doing it tho so ill keep practicing^^ thank you so much