Pikmin Pluck Techs

[Jadedlink]

I haven’t posted much. I like reading more than posting. Anyway, I’ve been messing around with the pikmin pluck and found some interesting things. I’m sure most of these are probably already known, but I haven’t seen anything posted about it so I thought I would. All of these are more interesting then useful. This is split into the first 3 posts. So don't skip any.

Pikmin Pluck Tech #1

For this one, all you do is use Up-b (pikmin chain) near a freshly picked pikmin. This will attach the pikmin to your line. This really isn’t very interesting, but you can use this to pick pikmin on the edge of a stage and not have them die. I’ve been able to do 5 pikmin with this move, but I can’t do 5 consistently. You can do this in the air also. Here is a little video about what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpMHD5BZLlo

Pikmin Pluck Tech #2

This one is a little more interesting. Run towards the edge of the stage, let go of the control stick and then press neutral b (pikmin pluck). Olimar should fall off the stage and hang on the edge and a pikmin should be picked. There should be no pikmin plucking sound. That’s all you do. No DI is involved. It doesn’t have much use either. It’s a unique way to edge hog, but that’s about it. If you don’t let go of the control stick soon enough, you will still pick a pikmin but Olimar will fall of the stage. Here’s a quick example of what I’m talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvfurLSNJEI

Here is video of this technique, but without olimar grabbing the edge. It is shown towards the end of the video. Credit goes to Zori for putting the video together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbeYk1RjoSM

This can also be done with the pikmin chain and the pikmin throw.

 

[Jadedlink]

Final Tech

This one is the most interesting and the easiest. All you do is do anything right after you have picked a pikmin. You can do any move once you have picked a pikmin. Just press neutral b (pikmin pluck) then immediately do another move. Grabbing is the most useful especially since the pikmin pluck stops you faster than a shield does. You can pick a pikmin and grab at almost the same time.

Up-b is also useful with this tech. As soon as the pikmin comes out of the ground, press Up-b (pikmin chain), and that pikmin will become part of your line. This gets your pikmin in your line a little faster than just normal picking and whistling. I was able to do 2 at a time, but no more than 2.

This is mostly useful for Olimar’s metagame. With a few pikmin flying above you, you can disguise your up smash and make it more difficult to dodge. There are other uses, but I’ll let ya’ll figure those out.

One other thing. If you have no pikmin, you can pick 1 pikmin and instantly attack with it. But it has to be the only pikmin, otherwise you will just attack with the other pikmin and not the one you just plucked.

 

[Jadedlink]

These things aren’t ground breaking. They are just little quirks about Olimar that I hadn’t seen posted before. I know some of you probably already knew about these, but I wanted those that didn’t to know a little more about Olimar. I didn’t discuss many uses because I wanted to see what everyone comes up with, if they are useful at all. If anything is unclear or you want a video of the third technique just ask.

One other thing. I've never posted a video before, so I apologize in advance for the terrible videos.

 

[RoboticSithDrone]

I also found some interesting tricks.

When smash-sticking: If you C-stick right after plucking, you will do a smash during the pluck.
When b-sticking: If you hit the stick sideways, you will immediately short-hop during your pluck.

 

[BlackWaltzX]

So will it make you go out of frames and attack faster? Sort of like 'bxr' did on Halo 2?
If so.. great. If not, nice tricks to know.
Also, the second one works for all characters with certain moves, be it Mario's cape making him 'wavedash' in the air, or Link's arrows cancelling and making him shoot two at once.

 

[Jadedlink]

I don't think it makes you attack faster. The grabs out of a pluck looked faster, but I doubt it. I'll do some testing, but I don't think it makes Olimar's moves any faster.

 

[DarkStraw]

if im stuck near the edge and i need pikmin, i pluck them (let them fall off the edge) then jump off the edge and whistle a few times, and up+B, works!

i dont think plucking then using a grab is any faster, if it is, its neglible.

 

[WhoseReality?]

those are very cool looking moves! I could see plucking and running off to come in handy if you're being attacked and desperate for pikmin. Good to know I don't need to wait to use the UpB if I've just plucked too.

 

[DanGR]

the final trick looks useful.

 

[Puddin]

if im stuck near the edge and i need pikmin, i pluck them (let them fall off the edge) then jump off the edge and whistle a few times, and up+B, works!

i dont think plucking then using a grab is any faster, if it is, its neglible.

If your opponent is aware of what your doing chances are your about to be one stock short =\ sorry for the spam, guess I should say something about the techniques... I like the one where you have no Pikmin and can instantly used a plucked one for a smash, thats useful to pluck more.

 

[DanGR]

Could we call this^ Olimar's first AT? Olimar doesn't seem to have many new ATs. Mostly, his future metagame will consist of better pikmin arrangement and move choice.

 

[Jadedlink]

Don't know. Its not really an advanced technique. Picking a pikmin then attacking/grabbing/shielding/whatever is just abusing the buffering system(if it is even buffering the attack) and the speed at which a pikmin is plucked. Thats really the only useful one. Not sure if its on a lvl of AT. I'm starting to integrate it into my game instead of just picking 6 pikmin whenever I have a chance. It is useful for people who charge you when your plucking. Great for mind games.

 

[DarkStraw]

Well, ive never been edge hogged doing it, and if you pluck one pikmin and attack and miss, your kinda screwed for a few seconds. you dont have to do it with all 6 pikmin (although you can if your quick) i can do it pretty fast with very little chance of getting edge hogged with 3.


Now if you are being pressured and you only have one pikmin you plan on attacking them, always whistle afterwords. It goes like this, you attack, if you miss your whistle will bring the pikmin back AND give you superarmor untill it comes back! then attack again!

 

[Puddin]

This is great and all, but I have one question.

If you are plucking Pikmin, but your just refilling, you arn't completely out and you use an Fsmash as if it was your first Pikmin, as mentioned above, would the Fsmash be as instantaneous as it would be if it was the first Pikmin you were plucking or would there be some kind of "plucking lag" to the Fsmash that would leave you open. If it is as fast then wouldn't it defeat the purpose of leaving yourself wide open with a risky trap waiting for the opponent?

 

[Jadedlink]

Because plucking a pikmin takes less than a second, the only lag is the time it takes you to move your finger to the button to peform a smash/tilt/grab.

Another thing i've been thinking about is picking a pikmin and attacking out of a dash. This is a way to smash/tilt out of a dash instead of any of the other ways, like pivoting. It might be a little faster.

One update. Olimar's pikmin throw and pikmin chain can be used with the second technique. As soon as you use the move, you will fall of the stage and edge hog. No DI'ing involved. Just substitute the pikmin pluck for chain or throw. And it can't be done with anything else. This can be done with other characters as stated earlier, but now we know Olimar can do it.

 

[eMORAY21]

The second one is slightly more interesting.

 

[Zori]

I made a video about the second one like 2 weeks ago -__- gah people

 

[Jadedlink]

I went ahead and added it to this thread. And gave you credit.