Pika vs peach help

[neji32]

I just lost a tourney to roan(rowen, sp?) a really good peach player. That was my second time ever fighting peach and I need to know what I'm supposed to do that match up.

 

[AzSvFeZ]

avoid any close encounters thunder jolt a bunch, and if he manages to get close or try to short hop Dair you, dsmash or QAC and reset your position. I play peach, lol believe it.

 

[phaMR2]

any other viable advice you would give against fighting peach? any tips for going on the offensive?

 

[gallax]

do not try her in the air. she floats and can do a fair>some serious comboes. best thing is to get underneath her and utilt/usmash while trying to lure her onto the ground. ask ESAM, he has more experience with peach. i played two. lost to both of them. one was the best from puetro rico and lets just say i was *****. i would have had 10 stock to his 3 and still lost.

 

[neji32]

Going underneath isnt safe, pika bolts don't work. She floats over them. Her dair has too much range >_<

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

One of my mates plays an awesome Pikachu and all of our matches are incredibly close (although I haven't played against him for a while).

Thunder Jolts are good at keeping her away but if you see her float over them, stop using them immediatly or you'll get eaten, most likely by a Dair. Watch your approach from above - her new Up Tilt will tear you apart if you aren't careful. Thunder is an excellent edgeguarding move but if you use it recklessly, she may Toad the end of it to push you away.

Avoid taking her on in air because her aerials are better than yours. Whilst you have your new D Smash, which you stole from her she still has hers so don't keep trying to roll behind her and use it because hers will get there first

I really need to play my mate again for better info but that's what I've got for now. Hope it helps

 

[gallax]

a good move in this matchup is the bair. be sure to implement this move often when fighting her.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

a good move in this matchup is the bair. be sure to implement this move often when fighting her.

Yes bair is an excellent move when it works. Just be wary of Peach's Bair as well because that's an excellent move aswell.
Can I advise that you never use Skull Bash (certinaly not charged) to try and hit Peach? It's fairly easy to see it coming, especially if it's been charged and her most likely reaction will be to jump over and punish you. I prefer to Toad Pikachu's who try this one me xD

 

[Roller]

I do a lot of running U-smashes into her which are pretty good. I joolt a lot and keep the hell away as often as I can.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

For peach, you should stay as far away as possible, and the time in which you have is cut down since she has glide toss. FF fairs to grab d-throw u-tilt works wonders at low percents, and at high, just U-smash since they should go in the air a little bit. Pika's F-smash has more range than anything peach has (i think) so it is a safe move to use, unless the peach is floating because she will just go over it and fair or dair you. For edgeguarding, try to get the tail pseudo-spike since it sends them down, and peach's vertical recovery is HORRIBLE. Try to hit her out of her float as early as possible so she can't get the horizontal distance and is forced to up-b. Make sure you don't get hit by a stitch-face (zombie turnip, or death turnip) for it does 30+%.

 

[Spyckie]

I don't think fsmash is ever safe except when mindgamed. It can be shield to dash grabbed, even if at max range.

see anther vs vidjo - all his fsmashes ended up getting grabbed.

 

[Anther]

Peach can't dash as fast =o.

 

[Spyckie]

lol true... but she can float cancel an fair...

 

[gallax]

lol true... but she can float cancel an fair...

which is then used for her tilits and what not for total rapage.

 

[neji32]

I always get punished for jolts >_<

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Peach is a LOT faster than she looks. Her Floating abilities make her very mobile indeed and if you miss time an aerial, she may simply float back and watch as you land your mousey cheeks into the ground.
For those of you who aren't aware, Float Cancelling has indeed been removed (for those who don't what it is, it was something in Melee so don't worry about it ) However, she has crazy and I mean crazy auto cancel (apart from her Fair which has noticable landing lag if you land wrong)

If you start off spamming Thunder Jolts, her most obvious reaction will be to float over them. Use Thunder Jolts but give yourself enough time to stop using them and get out the way when she's approaching. Be prepared for Dair combos and if you get grabbed, you can be certain Peach will throw you down and Tilt the **** out of you. Don't get predictable with your attacks or she'll Toad you.

Her Dash attack is slower and doesn't hit as hard but this time, it's got two attacks. The second one has a very odd hitbox indeed and with toss you up in the sky

As for actually killing Peach...try throwing her up and using Thunder. If she doesn't dodge quickly enough/get out of the way in time, she's toast. Getting hit by Thunder at the base also destorys her (I got killed at around 35% on the edge of Battlefield once...my DI must have sucked ) Be agressive with your egdeguarding! Peach has some pretty sick priority in the air but if you can get her first then you may just finish her off

That's all for now. Oh and don't forget she can jump/throw Turnips out of her sheild

 

[BurtonEarny]

I find that toad can REALLY destroy you if you arent careful. Really when i play pika the shieldgrabbing gets me more than anything. Pikas dsmash is beautiful against anyone. Rikerdy suggests upthrow and thunder... try this I know this is common. However, dont try too hard to gimp her, usually it fails because they can baita thunder or toad another move. watch out for her in the air... thunder jolting from a distance is really how you go, because if a peach gets too close the spores from a toad will get you punished quickly.