Physical Projectiles **** Me Up...

[Affinity]

Ive noticed that I have a lot of problems against characters that throw physical projectiles like Dedede, Olimar, and Diddy.

Anybody have good tips of how to get around this effectively?

 

[Shibby]

Roll, Shield, Spot-Dodge

It is tough because Lucas cannot absorb them ...

 

[Mind Your Manners]

Roll, Shield, Spot-Dodge

It is tough because Lucas cannot absorb them ...

Which leads me to a different question. What are the advantages of spot dodging as opposed to just shielding for a split second? I know if you spot dodge that it doesn't use shield, nor do the physical attacks lower it because it isn't up. Is there anything else beyond avoiding shield depletion?

 

[Shibby]

Which leads me to a different question. What are the advantages of spot dodging as opposed to just shielding for a split second? I know if you spot dodge that it doesn't use shield, nor do the physical attacks lower it because it isn't up. Is there anything else beyond avoiding shield depletion?

People will think you have more skill!

It also looks cool.


*Don't know if you can proceed to do a move out of it faster than a shield... I'm still fairly new to the smash scene*

 

[Trozz]

vs DDD: Use Psi Magnet on Waddle Doos to get a MASSIVE heal. Use n-air often.
vs Olimar: This match is tricky. Use PK Fire often, n-air to kill Pikmin latched on you, and air approaches are better vs an Olimar who likes to play defensive and grab.
vs Diddy: Throw his bananas back at him. Don't do standing PK Fires or he will dragon kick your face. D-smash is your friend here.

 

[piegopher]

Well Olimar isn't so scary in my opinion. They usually only deal about 2 to 6 percent before they get knocked off. Just treat them like any other character might treat fox's laser and run through them to punish a spammer. Just watch out for purples. If you find yourself getting hit, don't panic, just do a neutral A to knock them off real fast. Also, be aware that your PK fires will hit the pikmin stuck to you rather than moving outward. So watch out for red ones in particular because they won't even get knocked off by PK fire.

As for Diddy you can catch either of his projectiles just by airdodging through them. I haven't played a good diddy so far, so I dunno if that's a good technique to answer a spammer, but it's something to try.



To answer Mind Your Manners, shielding is slower than spot dodge, especially if you get hit because it'll lock you up for a moment with the impact stun and even move you backwards. Also, the more you use your shield the smaller it gets until some attacks start getting through. Spot dodging's just more reliable.

 

[alexrooster]

Had a hard time with all of our projectiles last night? Haha. Those bananas are sooooo annoying!

 

[Trozz]

Use bananas against Diddy. Bananas are easy to pick up. Pick them up off the ground by doing a dash attack over them, or catch them in the air by spamming A after initiating a n-air.

 

[SoiDohKamSal]

whats
a spot dodge?

 

[Shibby]

whats
a spot dodge?

Shield + Down on the control stick

Lucas does a matrix looking dodge

 

[GofG]

Olimar is easy. Approach him with nairs, and the pikmin won't ever even touch you.

 

[Affinity]

Had a hard time with all of our projectiles last night? Haha. Those bananas are sooooo annoying!

you could say that lol

Roll, Shield, Spot-Dodge

the problem isnt just not getting hit by them, its trying to get past them without getting majorly damaged so that you can actually get an attack in

 

[Fredd]

Don`t forget Lucas`s forward smash!

Try connecting your bat with the projectiles being thrown at you.
This tactic works quite well since his bat comes out fairly quickly.​

 

[Trozz]

Fredd, I have a thread for you.
This one.

 

[Deeja]

Approach Olimar with sh nairs and it's hard for him to get pikmin to you, same with diddy because you catch the bananas while doing a nair.

 

[TechnoMonster]

If you stand there and dodge them on reflex by power shielding, using your spot-dodge and air-dodge, you can patiently approach, bait and damage with full jumps and PK fire.

You have to be good enough to make them believe that they won't win by just throwing **** and punishing you, so don't get spaced, and don't get shield-grabbed, basically be lazy with your approaches (only do easy stuff that works 100%) and they'll get impatient quickly.

 

[Fredd]

Fredd, I have a thread for you.
This one.

Funny story, Trozz.

As I was typing the reply, my mind was somewhere in the "Lucas is not better than Ness" thread. I clearly know it`s a stick, but I was distracted with the image of Ness in my head.

I won`t edit my first post - so people will know it`s not a bat either.
Thanks!​