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Peach's turnips in 3.5

666blaziken

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Melee, peach's hitboxes on her turnip's have around 3 circles near the stem of the vegetable. In project M, her turnip hitbox is smaller and it's one circle that's closer to the white part of the turnip. This has caused more times where the opponent get's hit by a backward hitbox. I am wondering if this is intentional or a mistake in coding. Please let me know.
 

666blaziken

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COuld you provide a GIF of the Project M turnip hitboxes, and Melee if possible?
while not a gif, here's the hitboxes. Keep in mind that I am fine with this, but I know some other people are not, and if the hitbox could be changed and altered a little bit, that would be sweet (I just said that in peach's voice). So the question is: is this intentional?
 

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That's actually really helpful, thanks! While I can't exactly answer your question, my speculation would be that the one hitbox seems more uniform to to the turnip versus the three hitboxes in Melee's version. However, I don't know exactly what you mean by backwards hitbox.

While we're talking about turnips though, I do wonder if they'll restore the ability where turnips bounced off eachother instead of phasing into each other. The best way to picture this is think of Peach throwing turnips directly up in PM,versus in Melee, where they bounced off eachother
 

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That's actually really helpful, thanks! While I can't exactly answer your question, my speculation would be that the one hitbox seems more uniform to to the turnip versus the three hitboxes in Melee's version. However, I don't know exactly what you mean by backwards hitbox.

While we're talking about turnips though, I do wonder if they'll restore the ability where turnips bounced off eachother instead of phasing into each other. The best way to picture this is think of Peach throwing turnips directly up in PM,versus in Melee, where they bounced off eachother
Strongbad already said that they can't restore the turnips bouncing off each other anymore, however I can explain the backwards hitbox. In melee, there is a backwards hitbox when the lower left part of the turnip hits the opponent (assuming you're throwing to the right and hitting the opponent who is trying to recover). In project M, because the hitbox is more circular than rectangular (even though both are circles) there are times where even if the opponent is right below the turnip because the way the turnip hit them sends them the wrong way more often then in melee, especially with the way sheik recovers. It could lead to frusteration if there is a gimp attempt and it actually helps the opponent survive. It's funny because when I showed this to my roomate, he said that the PMDT intentionally changed the hitbox to nerf the turnips, and since I didn't have any proof that they didn't, I decided to go on smashboards.
 

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I know EXACTLY what you're talking about now! I'd agree this definitely needs to be talked about, as turnips can only do so much already. Why take away our gimps too?

I'm not sure who on the PMDT is responsible for Peach programming, or I guess turnip programming in this case. I'll try to do some looking around
 

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>...nerf turnips-
WHAT? Knew there was something off!
#RestoreTurnipBS
#TurnUp
 

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So I tried to post in the social forum and got pretty ignored haha. Maybe @StrongBad can point us in the right direction? Pretty please?????
 

666blaziken

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Now we just have to wait until a PMDT member comes around and explains why peach's turnips are different.
 

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Do we have any inkling at all as to who works on her? It's a little annoying we can't always hear the rationale from a specific developer, though I fully get why the PMDT doesn't want to disclose that info.
 

666blaziken

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Do we have any inkling at all as to who works on her? It's a little annoying we can't always hear the rationale from a specific developer, though I fully get why the PMDT doesn't want to disclose that info.
Actually, I think the person who would have the best idea over it would be Frozen since he uses peach in melee.
 
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