PHP
Smash Journeyman
Sombody please check this character. it's our time to shine guys!
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PATCH !1.1.5 OUT OF NOWHERE!?
- Thread starter PHP
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PHP
Smash Journeyman
Palutena's fair does 9% now confirmed
MzNetta
Oh no she betta don't
Can confirm that Fair was buffed 1% from 8% to 9%
Everything else is the same, damage wise, as far as I can tell.
Everything else is the same, damage wise, as far as I can tell.
PHP
Smash Journeyman
I can't check the frame data yet so I need somebody else to do it. Her frame data was probably buffed
kamus_aran
Smash Apprentice
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I'm sure her fair now can combo into itself easier
Death Arcana
Rum is for Drinking
im glad she's getting damage buffs.
buts its not a overall fix to her.
Her Ftilt needs like +10 shield damage or something to make it useful as it is now
i would love a 6 frame jab instead of an 8 :/
and her counter omfg worst frame data but yet one of the weakest
buts its not a overall fix to her.
Her Ftilt needs like +10 shield damage or something to make it useful as it is now
i would love a 6 frame jab instead of an 8 :/
and her counter omfg worst frame data but yet one of the weakest
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Maraphy
Smash Ace
It's like the life force of one of my mains was slowly sucked into the other one. Law of matter or something like that.
Corrin fair/nair: -1%
Palu fair/nair: +1%
Yeah I'm interested to see how this effects combos, and nair will be slightly better at killing than it was before!
Corrin fair/nair: -1%
Palu fair/nair: +1%
Yeah I'm interested to see how this effects combos, and nair will be slightly better at killing than it was before!
PHP
Smash Journeyman
It has a Sakurai angle so IDK
probably placebo, could be wrong though
Training mode is stupid sometimes, it comes up as 8 but AR does 3.6? so it doesn't read it in training mode. I hope down smash gets buffed 72 FAF is stupid af.
PHP
Smash Journeyman
Buffs so far:
- Rapid Jab Finisher Damage: 3 -> 3.5
- Nair Multihit/Final Damage: 1.5/4 -> 1.7/5
- Fair Damage: 8 -> 9
- Fair KBG: 100 -> 92
- Fair BKB: 30 -> 31
Maraphy
Smash Ace
Hope there's more where that came from
PHP
Smash Journeyman
More damage = more shield stun
C3CC
Smash Lord
Well, the changes are too minor and won't change that she's utter crap. I dropped her a long time ago as one of my mains and I really hope I can return to her someday. I only use her for non-serious fights with items and stuff, because she's very fun to use, but she's not very effective and it's very hard to win with her...
GamerTimeUS
Smash Apprentice
She needs lag reduced greatly on moves
Death Arcana
Rum is for Drinking
The current shieldstun formula is (X/1.75) + 2 rounded down.
X= the damage of the move
so
1.1.4 Fair is 8% which is 6 frames
1.1.5 Fair is 9% which is 7 frames
not much but i guess we take those
TastyCarcass
Smash Apprentice
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7 frames shield stun is pretty nice!
Palutena's main weaknesses are her grounded frame data, bad jab startup time and her smashes have unreasonably long end lag.
She does have some of the best aerials in the game though, but I have found that relying on those too much leads to pretty predictable play, especially on FD/Smashville stages
Palutena's main weaknesses are her grounded frame data, bad jab startup time and her smashes have unreasonably long end lag.
She does have some of the best aerials in the game though, but I have found that relying on those too much leads to pretty predictable play, especially on FD/Smashville stages
I am SO happy to see the Goddess getting buffs this patch. Although I feel she still needs a bit of an extra push.
Frame 3 neutral jab would be cool, a reflect that acts as a wall that pushes opponents away would be great (Plus it force opponents to go into the air which is exactly where Palutena wants them, or roll where she can line it up with a jab) I feel her dash attack could be carried a bit further, maybe not too much but enough distance to where it feels like she almost stops dead in her tracks, maybe faster at turning around, f-tilt could be faster, auto-reticle's range reaching further
I'd love to see all of that at least considered if there's somehow another patch, but hey it's a good start. At least she's getting SOMETHING and I couldn't be any happier.
Frame 3 neutral jab would be cool, a reflect that acts as a wall that pushes opponents away would be great (Plus it force opponents to go into the air which is exactly where Palutena wants them, or roll where she can line it up with a jab) I feel her dash attack could be carried a bit further, maybe not too much but enough distance to where it feels like she almost stops dead in her tracks, maybe faster at turning around, f-tilt could be faster, auto-reticle's range reaching further
I'd love to see all of that at least considered if there's somehow another patch, but hey it's a good start. At least she's getting SOMETHING and I couldn't be any happier.
Maraphy
Smash Ace
I'm definitely feeling the extra power; it's extra damage on every single throw combo.
Mind telling me what you've been doing with her? I'm going to be messing around with her more tomorrow and I'd like to know where to start messing around with her changes.
PHP
Smash Journeyman
Jab1 > Nair is practically a kill confirm on every floaty character
Maraphy
Smash Ace
I'm just taking her for a spin on For Glory; it feels ever-so-slightly easier to rack up damage
Death Arcana
Rum is for Drinking
frame 3 jab would be too good imo
i want it faster then frame 7 grabs though
i want it faster then frame 7 grabs though
TastyCarcass
Smash Apprentice
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Frame 3 jab would make it a different move really.
I think it could do with a frame or two off, but it mostly needs a hitbox that covers the area in front of Palutena.
Also she already has one of the best grabs in the game
I think it could do with a frame or two off, but it mostly needs a hitbox that covers the area in front of Palutena.
Also she already has one of the best grabs in the game
Actually I just got thinking. What if her b-air could reflect projectiles? Since she uses the shield. Imagine someone being all like "GOTCHA YA!" And Palutena is all like "Nope." And just back hands the projectile back?
MysteriousSilver
Smash Ace
Mathmatically this only works out to--assuming you use entirely Dthrow combos--somewhere around 10% extra per stock in an optimal situation
I guess that's one fewer Dthrow combos you need to get to kill percent but it really doesn't add up to all that much in reality. The extra shield stun is probably the best addition to fair, I find the damage negligible.
Sakurai must be terrified of overturning this character because she only ever moves by millimeters. I don't understand the KBG nerf either. I don't entirely understand the knockback formula though, I guess it's possible that BKB makes up for it, but I doubt it.
AceAttorneyFreak
Smash Rookie
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Her dash movement feels slower and dgrab feels like it has more knockback (upwards) at low percents. Am I crazy?
PHP
Smash Journeyman
That's definitely placebo, it hasn't changed at all
The KBG nerf was so she can't KO with fair that's all. It would have been a kill move if it was left alone doe to the % increase that's all. And nair with no stale is a pretty reliable KO move at high %s (130%) and also true combos after jab1 so we actually gained a kill confirm this patch on the low, and edge guarding with rapid jab is now viable because a the last hit finisher (3% > 3.5%) was enough to make it a consistent KO move at the ledge at 120%~130% (rage also helps both nair and jab finisher allot). These buffs are more beneficial than they seem on first speculation. They're actually really good tbh.