Over relying on Bananas?

[--E--]

While the bananas are an excellent tool at any Diddy player's disposal, I am finding that there seems to be an over reliance on the banana's themselves.

If Diddy players get into a lull about spamming bananas then their play becomes far to predictable. For example, players in my area are already expecting banana spam as soon as someone picks Diddy, which happens 9 time out of 10, and the Diddy player quickly gets punished for it.

I don't have a fix, I'm just preaching banana restraint.

 

[ron561]

i've been working on using bananas alot less in my diddy play and my diddy is still pretty good

 

[--E--]

i've been working on using bananas alot less in my diddy play and my diddy is still pretty good

Glad to hear!

 

[fkacyan]

Diddy without bananas is a bad Diddy.
Diddy getting punished for using bananas is a terrible Diddy.

If you're playing somebody who knows hos to use bananas against you, only keep one out (i.e. in your hands) at a time until you can get them far enough away from you to throw out the second one.

 

[Frostspin]

Diddy getting punished isn't a bad Diddy (not necessarily), but rather a good opponent. I only use one banana against my friends, who have gotten quite good at punishing me with the bananas. They still can use it against me quite effectively.

Mostly I just use the bananas now to help me edgeguard them lol

 

[fkacyan]

Diddy getting punished isn't a bad Diddy (not necessarily), but rather a good opponent. I only use one banana against my friends, who have gotten quite good at punishing me with the bananas. They still can use it against me quite effectively.

Mostly I just use the bananas now to help me edgeguard them lol

You're getting punished for using an aspect of Diddy's character which, used properly, should open up possible 'combos' (I say that in a loose sense, there are no combos in Brawl).

 

[DTKPch]

You're getting punished for using an aspect of Diddy's character which, used properly, should open up possible 'combos' (I say that in a loose sense, there are no DECENT combos in Brawl).

Fixed it for ya. Some characters have combos that can only be pulled off at low damages, making them nearly useless.

Anyways, yeah I would only keep 1 banana out at any given time if you're having trouble with two. Normally, I pull out 1 banana at the beginning of a match, and only keep one out until I find a good opening (like if my opponent is off the edge). Also, after I kill the opponent, I throw away both bananas and take out one more which I can keep track of. The first thing my opponent ever does with his invincibility frames is picking up a banana.

 

[--E--]

Diddy without bananas is a bad Diddy.

Yes, but the bananas need to have some restraint to them.

 

[Kayzee]

Over reliant on bananas = Needs to learn a few things about Diddy

 

[Doctor T]

Its not about how often you use them, but how you use them. No matter how often or how rarely you use bananas, if your opponent can predict you, you will be punished for it.

Opponents that become used to fighting against bananas can surely become a lot more difficult to use bananas against. But here is where you really start learning Mind Games, for you start to learn new uses for the bananas that you won't learn any other way.

And the OP is correct in that there is such a thing as using bananas too much. Variety leads to Mind Games, and sometimes stopping using bananas (or using them less often) for periods of time can help you regain control of the battle.

It is much better to not use bananas than to have them used against you.

 

[Player-1]

If anything i under rely on them, i bring them out usually when one of us dies, but sometimes when they're at high % and i can't kill them. I hate people who say i banana spam, when i bring uhhhh 4ish out a game? When they can use them against me?

 

[Gindler]

Yeah, I can usually **** people who rely solely on the bananas, unlike most players I actually know that using a dash attack on a banana will let you pick it up, most people hop over them leaving them open.

Oh and Thio, there are to combos in brawl, sure they're like 2-3 attack combos 4 tops but yeah not nearly the destructive ones there once were.

 

[ADHD]

I abuse glide tosses in my mind games lol, everyone gets pissed.

 

[~^.NoiR.^~]

Bananas are used for approaching and map control. If you can't control your bananas(sometimes I SLIP UP too) then you need more practice and not be as predictable.

 

[Super-Donovan-64]

Overrelience is bad.

Semi-Relience is goooooooooood.

 

[denizen]

n4n3rz needs to get in on this thread! lol

 

[N4N3RZ]

You can never over rely on Bananas.
You can ask anybody I play with, no matter how many nanerz I throw, There can always be more.
I dunno how you guys play with them but I don't see how you can be predictable with it, use glide tossing alot and just keep the bananas constantly moving, both of them. always have both bananas out and don't give your opponent the chance to get ahold of them, if they do happen to grab one, just catch it when they throw it at you. I do all the time =p

I main Bananas. Not Diddy.

I basically disagree with this thread. :D

 

[--E--]

You can never over rely on Bananas.
You can ask anybody I play with, no matter how many nanerz I throw, There can always be more.
I dunno how you guys play with them but I don't see how you can be predictable with it, use glide tossing alot and just keep the bananas constantly moving, both of them. always have both bananas out and don't give your opponent the chance to get ahold of them, if they do happen to grab one, just catch it when they throw it at you. I do all the time =p

I main Bananas. Not Diddy.

I basically disagree with this thread. :D

Of course you would. Its in your name.