Olimar jab lock revisit

[Cracker1204]

Got something for you guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ON3D-0Wv0

 

[Snail]

That's pretty nifty actually. We should experiment with a few setups this way, knocking people down with purple pikmin throws is pretty easy and most of the time they won't tech it.

 

[Cracker1204]

Indeed most of the time they wont tech.

Also hitting people of a platform when they shield is ofcourse an easy setup. purples are still my favourite though specially when you have 2

I think the jab wil only lock if you do it on time, if the opponent is lying there a little too long the jab will hit him up (he stands up if you hit with jab).

the chances to do these locks with jab with oli do regularly appear, more than you think, specially with purple.

the opponents can jump out of it sometimes or do an airdodge but they will fall to the ground pretty much.

 

[Noa.]

Interesting prospect.

Seems to work and it'll be extremely easy to set up when you have a bunch of purples.

 

[Fino]

Have fun kiddos
^,^


~Fino

 

[Llumys]

Hehe, that's actually a clever setup.

 

[Dabuz]

while i may just be doing this wrong but i don't think it works, they aren't getting up in the way you do when jab locking so it won't work

 

[Fino]

while i may just be doing this wrong but i don't think it works, they aren't getting up in the way you do when jab locking so it won't work

Called it


~Fino

 

[DanGR]

This is... amazing.

Also, I'm asking for forgiveness for my ignorance on this subject a while back. I said Olimar had no jab lock. I thought Olimar didn't have one. .____.

edit:

while i may just be doing this wrong but i don't think it works, they aren't getting up in the way you do when jab locking so it won't work

>_>

I'll definitely do some testing on this and what Zori found.

 

[Fino]

The purple pikmin toss can be DI'd... also jumped out of... the landing can be teched. The best set-up for this is tripping with fsmash.


~Fino

 

[Ingulit]

The purple pikmin toss can be DI'd... also jumped out of... the landing can be teched. The best set-up for this is tripping with fsmash.


~Fino

You can only lock prat falls, not trips.

/lurk

 

[Dabuz]

You can only lock prat falls, not trips.

/lurk

really? that might be useful against some caracters, who wants to test this?

 

[Llumys]

What do you mean?

Test what?

 

[Tin Man]

seems pretty situational, but nice setup, probably could be worked on though and help the olimar meta game.

 

[Llumys]

It's pretty impractical, but it's flashy nevertheless.

 

[Zori]

enjoying your post count boost llumys?

 

[Llumys]

No. I won't enjoy myself until I reach 20,000.

 

[Zori]

oh well im enjoying mine Xd

 

[Tin Man]

same here

 

[Llumys]

Me too!

<_<;

 

[RichBrown]

That looked pretty cool, I'll have to try it out and see if it actually locks like that. And for those that say it's just flashy and impractical, you probably just aren't good enough =)

 

[Llumys]

I can do it. <_<;

You can DI and tech out of it easily.

 

[RichBrown]

But if they miss the tech and just land regular, then you can do this.

You can DI and tech pretty much anything in this game, that's a given XD

 

[Llumys]

Yeah, but with a little DI away, Olimar won't be able to get close enough for the jab. I'm just saying, this isn't anything worth spending hours on.

 

[DanGR]

I'm rarely in a situation where it'd be best to throw a purple pikmin at my opponent from that close. I find it extremely situational right; nonetheless, very practical.

edit: lol, an hour? More like a couple minutes. It's not terribly difficult.

 

[Llumys]

I'm referring to the people to who say PACS is hard. <_<;

 

[DanGR]

I just thought of a way you could set this up.
Autocancel a nair, then throw the purple.
gg?

edit: I tried it. It's awesome. :D

 

[Dotcom]

Way to step it up DanGR, I wish i had a wii to do some of these things.
What else ways are there to set it up?
at a kill percent white fsmash, followed by a Purple over B, into a jab lock?

 

[Llumys]

I think that'd work. I'm curious to see what we could do against walls, though.

 

[DanGR]

Here a video of the autocanceled nair setup! It's really pathetic quality, because I'm using the camera on my macbook. <_<

It's a 10-death: http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=10cu5qr&s=3
(He wouldn't get a prat fall if I set him to 0%, so I put it at 10% in the beginning.)

Basically, I short hopped->threw white pikmin->autocanceled nair->threw purple pikmin->run forward and dair with a red to put him in the locked state->fast fall and land on the ground->charge purple upsmash till he gets up.

 

[Llumys]

Interesting. You should try doing multiple jabs.

 

[Dabuz]

richbrown...please, do it against good players...i need to see if it worthwhile to try and pull off.

 

[RichBrown]

Haha, I will learn this and get back to you guys. I've been playing bad/unmotivated lately...

 

[IcyLight]

Haha, I will learn this and get back to you guys. I've been playing bad/unmotivated lately...

that makes 2 of us =/

 

[Dabuz]

Haha, I will learn this and get back to you guys. I've been playing bad/unmotivated lately...

3 of us now...

 

[Zori]

10emolimars

 

[Cracker1204]

people who say DI and tech...mostly when a purple HITS it is unexpected, if they have the time to DI a purple then they mostly could have also shielded it... but yeah you can DI and tech almost anything so...

the thing is if they tech normally without rolling you can still get a free dair in so it ain't that bad but if your opponent always techs your purples you will probably go for a grab..

this jab lock wont occur very often but it is possible against good players...you just wont land it often...maybe only once or not at all...

 

[Llumys]

unexpected, if they have the time to DI a purple then they mostly could have also shielded it

LOL

No.