Oklahoma Power Rankings

[Sars_Pirate]

Yeah, I kinda like what Andy's saying. Back in LA our rankings kinda just looked like tiers. Why don't we just agree on this?

Top tier:
Chis

High tier:
Brett, Andy, Bryan

Mid tier:
(fill in the gaps)

 

[Crackboom]

The problem is the numbering. Tiers like that would work. Or maybe something like this

1. Chris
2. Brett
2. Andy
2. Bryan
3. blah
3. blah
4. soonandsoforth
4. soonandsoforth
4. soonandsoforth

But then we have to decide who is the top number 2

That reminds me of the 5 moles under the desert in Earthbound, all competing to be the 3rd strongest.

 

[Omega_Star]

Hmm, yes, I do quite like that tier idea. Specific numbers are susceptible to fluctuation and dispute, but having tiers would give an idea of the general skill of everyone who is ranked, which can really be more useful than numbers for that purpose (e.g. ranking Chris 1st and me/Brett/Andy 2nd wouldn't do justice to the gap that exists between 1st and 2nd). So, I think that it would infact be best to begin, and perhaps to remain, with a tier-based ranking system. The only issue with that would be the process of voting, but I feel confidence in the notion that that can be handily dealt with, perhaps in a more qualitative manner. And lol, as Craig stated, determining the order in which everyone is listed within the tiers.

 

[Hazygoose]

if all else fails, revert to the alphabet.
andy is a lucky *******.

 

[King_Gt]

Hmm, yes, I do quite like that tier idea. Specific numbers are susceptible to fluctuation and dispute, but having tiers would give an idea of the general skill of everyone who is ranked, which can really be more useful than numbers for that purpose (e.g. ranking Chris 1st and me/Brett/Andy 2nd wouldn't do justice to the gap that exists between 1st and 2nd). So, I think that it would infact be best to begin, and perhaps to remain, with a tier-based ranking system. The only issue with that would be the process of voting, but I feel confidence in the notion that that can be handily dealt with, perhaps in a more qualitative manner. And lol, as Craig stated, determining the order in which everyone is listed within the tiers.

All we have to do now is rename the thread!

 

[RastaImposta]

Whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute here...There is a dude that plays smash in OK and his name is Craig? Have I met this mysterious person?

Also, how many of you b itches would like to donate $5 to have a smashfest/tournament at OU? Its gonna be like $65, if I can get $32.50 Ill be more than happy to throw down that other half.

Also, as much as I hate to say this...Alex, Ill have your money next time you visit (my check is gonna be hella fat!)

 

[Gravity]

Whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute here...There is a dude that plays smash in OK and his name is Craig? Have I met this mysterious person?

Also, how many of you b itches would like to donate $5 to have a smashfest/tournament at OU? Its gonna be like $65, if I can get $32.50 Ill be more than happy to throw down that other half.

Also, as much as I hate to say this...Alex, Ill have your money next time you visit (my check is gonna be hella fat!)

i would even donate as much as $6.50!

anyway, im down for it, try and make it on a saturday please. also make a thread about it to hopefully piss off drew.

 

[Hazygoose]

Whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute here...There is a dude that plays smash in OK and his name is Craig? Have I met this mysterious person?

Also, how many of you b itches would like to donate $5 to have a smashfest/tournament at OU? Its gonna be like $65, if I can get $32.50 Ill be more than happy to throw down that other half.

Also, as much as I hate to say this...Alex, Ill have your money next time you visit (my check is gonna be hella fat!)

lol, yeah, i'd hate getting rid of money, too.
also...find out how many people want a tourny first. if it's only so many people just have it at brett's house to save costs. if like 20 people go though, yay for OU...and yay for 20 people in OK being into smash again, wtf!?!

remember training day? how the **** did coty get like 30 oklahomans to show up?

 

[po pimpus]

Po is in! Just tell me AT LEAST two weeks in advance so I can beg/plead/bribe my superiors for the day off.

I also approve of the Rankings appearing as some sort of tier list.

Po Pimpus=Pichu?

 

[South_Paw]

lol, yeah, i'd hate getting rid of money, too.
also...find out how many people want a tourny first. if it's only so many people just have it at brett's house to save costs. if like 20 people go though, yay for OU...and yay for 20 people in OK being into smash again, wtf!?!

remember training day? how the **** did coty get like 30 oklahomans to show up?

...i did?

=P, its cus im freaking south paw biotches!!

honestly, probably because

1. i was super excited so i bugged every one of you to tell as many as possible
2. pablo actually tried, which meant he got amazing results
3. i was lucky enough for outlaw and his buds to find it shortly after they joined the boards

last but not least... i offered free food and a day of smash... un-BEATABLE!

 

[Sars_Pirate]

>_>

I'm pretty sure I'd be killed if I didn't go lol. And yeah, I'd cover more than 5 bucks for you man.

 

[Gravity]

yeah, as long as we can get atleast 2 weeks in advance i can probably cover more than 5 bucks as well, but count me down for atleast 5.

also, im pretty sure we can get atleast 25, we get 15 or so at bretts things, and thats minus PV, most of edmond, and the rest...

so yeah, as long as we make a thread it shoudld work

 

[Sars_Pirate]

Yeah, so I decided to throw this list together just for giggles. And I haven't added Babac or Pablo yet, but I think he should be on the list . . . I mean, they are going to play in tourneys . . .

Also, I don't like ranking myself . . . So I'm not going to post it up. :/ I'm just going to put up who people according to what I saw, how they play against other people as well as me, and then curve it according to things like tech skill, match up disadvantages, etc because I mean come on . . . Craig plays Bowser, and he has to play against top tier and does really well. That should boost him up a lot, eh?

Top:
Chris / Kos-Mos / a black guy with a giant check in his car

Upper:
Bryan / Zinth / remember that time you four stocked me?
Brett / Scud / I think I owe you gas money
Andy / Gravity / Samus dittos?!?

High-Upper:
Pablo / Vegafuse / Screw it, I added him since he's better anyway
Kuni / Kevin / Shade / all other million names he has . . .
Heath / HeathQ / OMG I almost forgot about Heath

Upper:
Mark/ Fresh / Does he not play anyone?
Craig / Crackboom / omg bowser?
Paymon/ Pay$ / Apparently doesn't pay you back your money
Wes and Outlaw / Craig's friends are too good.
Brandon / Po Pimpus / He is the original number 81.

Mid: (Basically people I've barely played . . . )
Chubbs
Tyler
Jeff

Low: (I won't add anyone to low right now, but if you're not on the list either I haven't played you or >___>)

And I just realized how few smashers I've played here. But I think the skill level differences are pretty easily shown here. I also originally didn't have a high-upper but I thought it was necessary since Kuni and Pablo are better than anyone else in upper tier. And I'd like to add Craig even higher, but >_< BOWSER T_T

And yeah, HeathQ is good, and I think he's about as good as Kuni and is pretty consistent as a player.

Also, I'd like to play Auddy and I wouldn't mind joining the ministry.

 

[Hazygoose]

correction: heath is the best player.
eber.

 

[Gravity]

i wish someone would post in the ok thread so i can continue spamming it without double posting.

anyway yawara, decent list, its missing a lot of people, but i guess thats all you have played.

also its been a long time since i played auddy and iirc you beat me the last samus ditto we did. so if babac has this thing at OU you should come.

 

[po pimpus]

I like Yawara's list. He seems to have a pretty good grasp of everyone's respective skill levels.
I'm going to post my list with what I feel is everyone's strengths/weaknesses:

Top Tier:

KOS-MOS: THE. BEST. PLAYER. IN. OKLAHOMA. PERIOD. He's the total package./If Chris has a weakness, I have yet to find it. He's incredibly skilled at masking his vulnerabilities while playing...


Upper:

Zinth: Too Good. Great combos, and speed make Zinth very hard to defend against. A great player./If I had to name a weakness, it's that sometimes you can be a bit predictable at times. Your edgeguarding needs a bit of work, but if you 'borrow' a few moves from Chris, you'll be alright.

Scud: Also beast. Nice Falco. Great edgeguarder, makes it difficult to survive when he gets you off stage./Brett's weakness would have to be his characters--Cap and Falco have horrid recovery, so he's easily edgeguarded when knocked off stage. I know you play Peach as well, so at least you have a bit of balance there.

Andy: Annoying as hell to play against. Samus is a b*tch to play against. Stupid Nairs./Andy tends to goof off a lot in his matches, so I can never get a read on his consistency...


Low-Upper: Didn't want to make this tier, but you guys forced my hand...

HeathQ: Haven't seen Heath in a while, but it seems he's still good. Great timing and ability to read his opponent keeps Heath always in the game./Heath's weak? He NEVER shows up to anything!

Shade: Still a technical fiend, Kuni. Always love fighting someone so fluid and precise./Kuni just doesn't care to be competitive anymore. Nothing wrong with that, but it prevents him from playing at his full potential.

Vegafuse: Pablo is the MASTER. His mindgames are so sick, he can put you exactly where he wants you. The smartest player around, no doubt./You all know Pablo's weakness--"Captain Sandbag", anyone?


Mid-Tier:

Marc: The king of punishing. Make a mistake, he will capitalize on it. This kid is TOO GOOD./The only thing keeping Marc out of a higher placing is that he doesn't play anyone other than me. He's really good, he just hasn't shown anybody what he can do yet.

Sars Pirate: YAWARA! My goodness is this guy fluid... He rarely misses a beat./Has a tendency to let up on his opponents too early and let them back in the fight.

Craig: OMG! It's Bowser! And he's kicking butt! Craig is too good with Bowser./OMG! It's Bowser... That's Craig's weakness, seriously.

Pay$: Impossible to predict. Little ******* is a feint artist, I tells ya./His wild playstyle also leads him to self destruct or miss easy kill opportunities.

OutLaw/Wes: Youse guys are too good. OutLaw is a VERY fast player. Wes is very good with his spacing and timing./Your weaknesses would be lack of overall experience. That will change in time, though.


Low-Mid Tier: I made this for one guy, and one guy only, so I could piss him off enough to come out of retirement and play me.

RastaImposta: Babac, you main characters that OK doesn't see very often, so you're hard to play against sometimes because of it./You have a tendency to do ridiculous stuff that will never work more than once, so you're left open the longer a match goes on. Now get mad and defend yourself!

I left myself out of it for obvious reasons(I SUCK) but I will cover my strengths/weaknesses:


Po Pimpus: Brandon is probably one of the most experienced Smashers in OK, having traveled to many Smash events outside of OK. With such knowledge, he knows pretty much what to do in almost any situation./Brandon's major weakness, is how much time his job takes away from his social life, and as a result, he has become an extremely lazy player. Not able/willing to attempt to better his skills, he merely relies on his experience and natural ability to attempt to at least break even with similarly skilled opponents. This laziness is most heavily punished by the High/Top Tier Oklahomans, whose superior skills are more than a match for a lazy, old bum such as himself. QUIT YOUR JOB, AND YOU MIGHT SUCCEED AT SMASH, PO!!!


Okay, I was going to put the rest of you on here, but seeing as how I never see any of you, it would not be very reflective of your skills now, so I'll just end by saying:

COME TO MORE SMASH EVENTS, EVERYBODY!!!

That way, I can put you on this list without looking/feeling stupid. I will say that Auddy, Dylan, Brett2, KingGT, Bacon, Chubbs and yes, Irish(even though he doesn't even live in OK anymore) are all solid players.

 

[Sars_Pirate]

Now . . . GO FORTH AND POST YOUR OWN!!!

 

[Crackboom]

I'm Crackboom and I support these tiers

 

[Omega_Star]

I would pitch in for a tournament. But that's not important now. The important thing is...

ZINTH'S TIRE LIST!!!

TOP TIRE
KOS-MOS (Chris) [Peach]

GREATER TIRE
Zinth (Bryan) [Marth]
Scud (Brett) [Falco]
Gravity (Andy) [Samus]

HIGH TIRE
Sars Pirate (Yawara) [Captain Falcon]

(Individual cases within TIREs not organized in any particular manner.)

And as per tradition, I will leave my tires unfinished until later, because tires don exists, LOLOLOL.

 

[Vegafuse]

Aww, Brandon, your description of me makes me sound too good! I almost don't know what to add since what you posted is on spot with my opinion as well. I'll go for it anyways, copying your pros/cons thing you had going on, lawlz ^_^

This is just my opinion from what I can recall, no particular order within each tier. I'm ONLY listing people I've played since September (sorry Marc, Heath, Chubbs, Plasman, IrishGuy, Auddy, Bacon, KingGT, Bluejay, etc., but I definitely look forward to playing you guys again!):

1st Tier:

Kosmos
Mindgames, technical ability, and great knowledge of the game. Your skill always improves greatly each time we game, and whenever you lose, you come back meaner than ever.
Ego crusher (could be a good thing)

2nd Tier:

Zinth
Marth combo king, and very adept with dash dancing.
impatient/predictable sometimes, but your pros make up for it

Scud
Solid Falco and makes great use of his fundamental tactics.
you seem to have trouble with low-tiers, but maybe it was just your Peach...

Gravity
Tricky to punish Samus, really safe play style.
spam more missiles? i dunno..... your n-airs are what I'm worried about...

3rd Tier:

Po Pimpus
Inspirational player, I see a lot of potential here.
The underdog of Oklahoma smash, your skills are rusty since you don't have much free time these days.

Pay$
Really good at catching people off-guard for kills. No luv, biotch.
You're the ultimate scrub killer, but you might want to play a bit more conservative against people your level and up. No luv, biotch. That's why you went down a tier from my previous list. Biotch.

SarsPirate
Pretty well-rounded, actually.
Watch out for the very simplest of things, but other than that, keep it up!

Outlaw
Very quick reflexes, knows how to take advantage
Crackboom
Great Bowser, knows how to deal with his match-ups well.
Wes
Very good spacing and timing, good at set-ups.
I guess the thing you guys (all three of you) lack the most is experience against people outside your crew. Also, Craig, because of your character, you're going to have a very uphill battle to fight.

4th Tier aka Babac Tier:

RastaImposta
You're actually on point when you put effort into your game. Great team player, and not afraid to try something new. EDIT: Since you are back in the game, and taking it semi-seriously now, I eagerly await the day you dethrone Kosmos!
You're a bit of an opportunist, and usually risky. Also, watch out for spammable moves!
You're mainly here because a random Peach got 2nd at MGC....... TWICE! You were destined for MGC Dallas! What happened!?

I wish I can add more people, but I haven't played them for a while. Hopefully OSC changes that!

 

[Shanx]

ok, ok, i guess i'll come out of hiding and throw in my 2 cents.

SHANX'S OFFICIAL TIER LIST
And it goes a little bit something like this...

1. Me. Why? Do you know who i am?

2. Po pimpus. Way back when at rasta's house we would make fun of inuyasha and other animes that need to end. I think we played smash too, but i'm not very sure.

3. King GT. I'm sure you've only gotten better in my unannounced hiatus. (see, i don't make a big deal about this crap, i just disappear for a couple of months and come back. No big announcement or anything *coughrastacough*.)

vegafuse. Ya just too good, i don't know what to do.


-high tier-

rastaimposta. You're the only one i've really played recently and we're still on par, so if I'm the shiz, then you'd be pretty close to shiz-like.

Sars Pirate. When we played nothing but teams at rasta's house i couldn't tell if it was you or zinth, which is a very good thing.

Gravity. Samus is a *****.

Pay$. **** your captain falcon got crazy. I was not ready for that. Your falco is still pretty awesome.

Shade. Where the hell have you been? You were in the top 3 in the state and then you kinda disappeared. I'm just glad you're ok.

-mid tier-
Jeff
-low tier-
gt's ******* friends.

I gotta go to sleep, i'll finish up mid tier and low tier later.

 

[King_Gt]

Lawells.
That shiz is TOO GOOD.

 

[South_Paw]

KOSY-

+ He <3's Peach
- He doesn't <3 Marth enough


ANDY-

+ He says everything in the same tone of voice and <3's Stepmania
- He plays Samus


ZNTHY-

+ He <3's Marth enough!
- He doesn't <3 Peach enough


SCUDY-

+ The only Falco rep in OK worth mentioning (Where's Heath?!)
- Peach <3's Falco too much :-(


PABLY-

+ HE'S JUST TOOO GOOOOOOD!!!
- Doesn't yet realize that Captain Sandbag isn't on the character select screen, and needs to choose an existing character


RASTY!!!-

+ Finds and practices many advanced techniques...
- ....that don't work.

 

[Sars_Pirate]

ROFL

me=/=Bryan

And O_O @ Bryan ranking me high. I thought he thought I sucked.

 

[thechubbss12]

Ahh... Just put meh somewere near the bottom of the PR list and I will be content...

The thing is.. If im on there atleast im happy ahaha.

 

[Hazygoose]

since everyone threw out their lists you guys really should have a round robin tourny and rank based on wins. 2 matches per set (not best of 3 'cause that's screwy). and then if someone can't show up, just have bryan, brett, and chris determine where they should fit in. aaand...i would say andy, too....but andy is a jerk who took forever to send me his lists
j/k he was usually like the 2nd person in.

 

[Sars_Pirate]

Eh, the same peeps show up to brett's all the time anyway, so it's more or less a round robin just less formal. And yeah, we tried but no one seemed interested :/

 

[Crackboom]

I took every list people have posted and took the average of each person's position in each list. Of course I didn't count the silly/old lists. I also didn't count duplicates, just the most recent. I also included my own list which is slightly altered from my previous. I will give each person's position, average, and number of votes (number of lists they appeared in).

pos---name-----average-----votes

1-----Kosmos------1------------8
2-----Zinth---------2.38---------8
3-----Scud---------2.88---------8
4-----Gravity------3.86---------8
5-----Vegafuse----5.2----------5
6-----Heath--------6------------2
7-----Shade--------6.2----------6
8-----Sars----------6.66--------6
9-----Mark---------8------------4
10---Pay$----------8.66--------6
11---Po-------------9.5---------6
12---Outlaw--------9.5---------4
13---Rasta---------9.66--------3
14---Crackboom---9.71--------7
15---Wes-----------10.25------4
16---Tyler----------12.5--------2
17---Chubbs--------13.5-------2

Several conclusions can be drawn from the table. First, the number of votes indicate how active the player is and how valid that person's right to be in the table is (to be in the PR you must be active). The table also shows how close in skill level players are, even more so if you have a lot of votes. Zinth and Scud for example. It is also evident that Sars is Satan.

If I had to break this table into tiers, I would do:

tier 1
Kosmos (Peach)

tier 2
Zinth (Marth)
Scud (Falco)

tier 3
Gravity (Samus)

tier 4
Vegafuse
Heath
Shade
Sars (Falcon)

tier 5
Mark
Pay$
Po (Luigi)
Outlaw (Doc)
Rasta (Ice Climbers)
Crackboom (Bowser)
Wes (Link)
Tyler (Peach)
Chubbs

These are where the largest breaks in average occur, relatively.

Bryan, feel free to edit this onto the main page

 

[Sars_Pirate]

ROFL!

Much love for craig.

And apparently, I am satan =o

 

[RastaImposta]

I laugh at my place in the PR, oh well.

Look at the new thread.

 

[Crackboom]

Well you only had 3 votes, so its not very accurate for those people. Aren't you still retired, anyway?

 

[Sars_Pirate]

Also, I kinda liked the way you separated the tiers that way, especially with the division between Andy and Brett and Bryan. I think that works out better because, even though Andy's good, Samus is an easier matchup than the mains Bryan and Brett work out with. And I think low tier can be broken up better :/

Doesn't seem right to categorize all of them as being low tier.

Maybe we should just call it like Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier etc instead of Top, High, Mid, etc. That way it's less insulting yet it's still accurate and also profile people on the front page along with the updated tiers.

For example:

Tier 1:
Chris
---Primary: Peach
---Secondaries: etc

Tier 2:
Bryan
---Primary: etc

Brett
---etc

Tier etc.

 

[Crackboom]

I edited that info into my post. I put just the mains of the people that i know. Let me know yours if I don't know it or got it wrong. Some people have too many secondaries for it to be of any relevance so, eh, whatever.

 

[Hazygoose]

why don't you guys just get balls and do a real PR?
just saying...

 

[Sars_Pirate]

The purpose of PRs is to give people an understanding on how each of the players do skillwise anyway.

This sort of PR does exactly that but more detailed without inflating egos too much.

 

[Hazygoose]

the purpose of my PR is (insert something about your mom).
either way, i'm just saying, get to it or don't.
so much talking about PR without an actual one :\

oklahoma needs to be a do it to it state, yo.

 

[Omega_Star]

I like the numbered tier idea, actually, Craig made good points with that. Pokemon uses that system as well.

 

[Heathq]

Sars is better than me.

 

[Sars_Pirate]

>_> *is kinda shocked*

*much love to Heath*

 

[Heathq]

Yeah we need to play some more. You and Brett need to drive to seminole this weekend.