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Official Young Link in Brawl Discussion

TShirt4

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ok please correct me if I'm wrong but i searched for one and didnt see an official topic for young link so i made one!

Is Young link going to be in brawl?

What version would they use?

is it possible young link will bring anyone else with him?

any new moves?

I'm a huge YL fan and really hope he'll be in it!
 

RiptheReaper

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if he will be in brawl he should uniques moves like the masks
ex: Side B Goron Roll
UP B Deku Flower(Good Recovery)
Down B maybe Zora's Magic Shield from Majora's Mask(couldn't think of something else)
Final Smash-Fierce Deity Mask for a time transformation(like Giga-Bowser)
Standar B ?????
but i think he will be removed because they're using TP looks and he doesn't have one
 

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Young Link won't be in Brawl. HE'a clone, and they are trying to get rid of clones. (as someone else recently said, he is REALLY a clone because he is link)

And they shouldn't use WW Link because cel-shading would look very weird next to the rest of Brawl.
 

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I think that perhaps we could have a Young Link with abilities from Majora's Mask, using the Transformation Masks, as well as sporting a heavily luigified moveset. I would explain more here, but I'll have a thread up sometime later with a really detailed post, so no need to repeat myself here.

Even a clone character can make it back if he or she has new stuff to seriously differentiate themselves from the character they were cloned from.
 

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Even though he doesn't exist, a Twilight Princess style Young Link would be the coolest thing ever, and I would definitely main him for life!!!
 

RiptheReaper

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Even though he doesn't exist, a Twilight Princess style Young Link would be the coolest thing ever, and I would definitely main him for life!!!
I think the same.but my main prediction will still be Pit,he looks quick,has twin swords,a bow,looks awesome and fly,what is better than that?

but a TP young link would be somewhat cool ,even more using the masks.
 

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Young Link won't be in Brawl. HE'a clone, and they are trying to get rid of clones. (as someone else recently said, he is REALLY a clone because he is link)

And they shouldn't use WW Link because cel-shading would look very weird next to the rest of Brawl.
Why don't you play a game called Super Smash Brothers Melee. Then tell me that Mr. Game and Watch fits in absolutely perfectly within the cast graphics wise.

Using WW is cel shaded as an argument for why he shouldn't be in Brawl is so pathetic and god awful you should be kicked in the balls.

^_^ on a lighter note. I think WW Link would be a very nice addition to Brawl. Sakurai could incoporate many unique aspects into his character From the Wind Waker.

-Knight
 

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I never really thought of that. Pit will be a superior "Young Link" anyway.
 

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I'd prefer Melee's Young Link to WW Link. Mainly because I hate the Celda type of graphics or what not...but also, I'd love to see Young Link utilize his Transformation Masks. You think Pokemon trainer has it good? Try for FOUR move sets. And a Fierce Deity FS? Pure Win.
 

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I'd prefer Melee's Young Link to WW Link. Mainly because I hate the Celda type of graphics or what not...but also, I'd love to see Young Link utilize his Transformation Masks. You think Pokemon trainer has it good? Try for FOUR move sets. And a Fierce Deity FS? Pure Win.
yeah defenitely.
 

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Using WW is cel shaded as an argument for why he shouldn't be in Brawl is so pathetic and god awful you should be kicked in the balls.
No it isn't. Cel-shaded Link would look terrible if he was cel-shaded in Brawl. Everything else in the world of Super Smash Bros. Brawl isn't cel-shaded at all in any case, making one character cel-shaded and putting him in the rest of the cast in Brawl would just look very out of place and choppy. Now if he was in the cartoony style, I can perfectly understand. But actually being cel-shaded? No, that would be VERY ugly.
 

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Melee's Young Link isn't going to make a return.

How would they do his graphics? Would it be like TP's (that'd be weird.) or would he look like Melee's Young Link? I don't see how it'd work. A Majora's Mask Link would definitely be awesome, though.

On the matter of WW Link, he's so much more probable. He appeared on Sakurai's poll... I don't really see how his style would work in the Brawl environment myself, but I won't use that as an argument as to why he won't be in. I mean, if Sakurai wanted him in the game, I'm sure he'd find a way.
 

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How would they do his graphics? Would it be like TP's (that'd be weird.) or would he look like Melee's Young Link? I don't see how it'd work.
I mean, really, it must be true Sakurai doesn't have any creativity to develop such a feat!
On the matter of WW Link, he's so much more probable. He appeared on Sakurai's poll... I don't really see how his style would work in the Brawl environment myself, but I won't use that as an argument as to why he won't be in. I mean, if Sakurai wanted him in the game, I'm sure he'd find a way.
It's not the cartoony style, it's the fact that people want him to blatantly be cel-shaded. One cel-shaded character in a non cel-shaded game = no-no.
 

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Young Link will most likely not be coming back.

If he does, I hope it's in the form of the WW version of Link. He'll be executed in a unique way like this, but even then they'd probably have to touch up on his moveset.
 

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Graphics? Graphics? I'm fairly certain that if Sakurai can insert Mr. Game and Watch into Melee, placing a slightly improved Young Link should prove to be no problem. Besides, a more realistic Y.Link would not only look kick arse, but I still say the Transformation Masks would make Y. Link one of the most fun characters to play with. And sure, he would be an advanced version of Pokemon Trainer, except he'd fight on his own instead of relying on...urgh...Pokemon. And maybe the Masks could be temporary, forcing players to utilize the masks to the best of their abilities? I dunno, just something could be done to separate the transformation pro/cons from Pokemon Trainer.

Point being, Y.Link should and I have a feeling most likely WILL appear back in Brawl.
 

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You're right, I wasn't really thinking. They could just enhance his graphics from the Melee version.

I still think that WW Link has a better chance, though.
 

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I'd luv to see him back. He's a blast to play.
They would de-clone him though. Maybe with masks, maybe with a Bom-chu (instead of an actual bomb), maybe with his Deku sheild being uneffective agaisnt fire, who knows. But he will do something different with.

I'm almost certain they'll keep his boomerang the same though. It'd contrast with Link's Gale Boomerang and further de-clone him.
 

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God, what is with people and their absolute hatred for clone characters? I can understand if the two characters have essentially the same moves and all (with minor differences) but if they have two completely different movesets or focuses on gameplay, I think that "clone" characters won't decrease from anything in Brawl! With the exception of Pichu, I think ALL of the clone characters should come back! WHAT DO YA THINK ABOUT THAT!?!?!?!
 

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Hell no to Kid Link

Young Link won't be in Brawl. He was a crappified version of regular Link, who was already mid tier at best.

There's talk about WW Link, but I'd put him in the same boat as Paper Mario. And I don't think Sakurai is going to make two versions of the same character in different slots, as evident with Samus/Zamus.
 

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So a character shouldn't be in because he's not top tier???

Then let's get rid of ALL the characters that aren't like fox or Marth...

That's really not good reasoning of whether a character should return...


...Besides, Young Link from Oot and Adult Link from Tp are technically 2 different people, though I do not like all the friggin links people want in this game...(Like 4 or something)
 

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So a character shouldn't be in because he's not top tier???

Then let's get rid of ALL the characters that aren't like fox or Marth...

That's really not good reasoning of whether a character should return...
I didn't even say that, ****it. I said he was crap because he WAS. And that's not even the point.

...Besides, Young Link from Oot and Adult Link from Tp are technically 2 different people, though I do not like all the friggin links people want in this game...(Like 4 or something)
Fox and Falco are two different humanoid animals, did it stop Falco from being a Fox clone? If Young Link won't make his way into Brawl, because chances are he would end up a weaker half-pint clone of Link. AGAIN.

WW Link wouldn't be a clone, but I don't like his chances either. Plus I don't really like the idea of putting in more than one version of Link.
 

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Dude, if you're just here to rag on Link either way, STFU. We don't need to hear some person who is just here to be an ***.

Young Link won't be in Brawl. He was a crappified version of regular Link, who was already mid tier at best.

There's talk about WW Link, but I'd put him in the same boat as Paper Mario. And I don't think Sakurai is going to make two versions of the same character in different slots, as evident with Samus/Zamus.
BTW, there's your stupid comment about tiers. Read what you write.
 

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Dude, if you're just here to rag on Link either way, STFU.
Rag on Link? That's ironic, BECAUSE MY AV HAS A PIC OF LINK ON IT!

We don't need to hear some person who is just here to be an ***.
You're calling me an *** just because I disagree about a character returning? There isn't a single character thread that doesn't have it's share of naysayers. I don't need to read some moron flaming me for having a different opinon. **** you.
 

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I'm calling you an *** because all you've ever said so far has been biased comments with no reasoning to back it up. If you actually gave reasoning beyond the fact that you just don't like Y.Link, then you might be actually getting somewhere.
 

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Why don't you play a game called Super Smash Brothers Melee. Then tell me that Mr. Game and Watch fits in absolutely perfectly within the cast graphics wise.

Using WW is cel shaded as an argument for why he shouldn't be in Brawl is so pathetic and god awful you should be kicked in the balls.

^_^ on a lighter note. I think WW Link would be a very nice addition to Brawl. Sakurai could incoporate many unique aspects into his character From the Wind Waker.

-Knight
while I wouldn't mind a young link in brawl with a TWW style is that actually possible? Not having a TWW style but actually having a single cel shaded character in a non cel shaded game? aren't those like 2 diffrent graphic engines? Though I guess TP has some cel shaded looking things. If it is possible i'd be fine with it, but if they can't have a TWW style link in true cel shaded style they shouldn't try to make one that tries to look like cel shaded link.

Aside from that I don't think young link is neccicary. Sure link is represented as a kid in more games, but it's still Link (a link). If their gonna add more zelda characters i'd prefer new ones not just more links (midna riding wolf link would be ok though)
 

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if he will be in brawl he should uniques moves like the masks
ex: Side B Goron Roll
UP B Deku Flower(Good Recovery)
Down B maybe Zora's Magic Shield from Majora's Mask(couldn't think of something else)
Final Smash-Fierce Deity Mask for a time transformation(like Giga-Bowser)
Standar B ?????
but i think he will be removed because they're using TP looks and he doesn't have one
Good moveset! But I think he should also have something from Wind Waker in his moveset. I really don't like the idea of Cel-Shaded Link. I agree that Young Link should have a comepletely new moveset. And he probably will because on SmashDojo it says that some characters already have new movesets.
 

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You guys know Poke Floats is completely cel-shaded right?
And that looked great.

That pretty much kills anyone's arguement about WW Link not being in Brawl because of conflicting art styles. It's been done before, so there's no reason why it can't be done again.
 

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You guys know Poke Floats is completely cel-shaded right?
And that looked great.
Theyre not cel shaded,they're just bright... theres a difference you know...

Young Link is my favorite character in Melee, no contest. But if anyone's leaving (i.e. The Doc, Roy and Pichu) his head is on the block.

There's a tiny chance that we'll see a vintage Young Link, with some Majora's Mask flair and a Fierce Deity final smash, updated with more realism. But despite giving me eternal happiness, the chances are not great.

I'll admit that WW Link has appeared more recently (Phantom Hourglass).
As for the the problem of art style... Sakurai is original enough and imaginative enough to do it, we could have cel shaded beside the general style of smash, but it's not because of G&W, because G&W wasn't of a different style, he was too simple to have a style, he was a monochrome two dimensional shape. Cel shading is a different way of doing animation, coloring and lighting, whereas Game&Watch is the absence of those things. Sakurai has managed to put all types of characters in Brawl in styles that mesh together rather well, and while I'm hardly saying that WW Link would ruin the game, (It will be the best game ever irregardless) but if he was going to put in a completely different art style now, it would be somewhat silly.


I personally don't think WW Link will be included not because of his appearance (though it does complicate him), but because TP Link represents all the generations of Link. Twilight Princess Link is "Link", without the "Twilight Princess" moniker in front, he is the symbol of all Link's past and present. "Hero of Winds", or "Windwaker Link" could still be in, it's not awkward enough to outrightly exclude him, but Link changes in appearance often, TP has the latest, most detailed and most fitting style for Link, and WW link isn't Young Link, he's just Link, his big head and tiny body make him look rather young in comparison, but if you recall back, most characters in WW had comprable proportions, they chose a cartoony caricatured-like style. To put it frankly I don't feel that he'll be in because I feel he's already represented.

I have one interesting bit of information though, it proves nothing, but it stirs up ideas. If you recall the sticker update, the stickers were all artwork from previous games: Strikers mario, Baloon fighter's cover art, the wrestling bird this from thousand year door ( could go on, but I think you get the point). They were all artwork released for previous games, nothing new, except for one thing that caught my eye on the third screen:



That bottle is better quality then the melee trophy, I'd never that pic before, as I thought further upon it. Granted it might be from some artwork I hadn't seen, but a thourough search turned up fruitless (OOT, Melee, note the corners). If anyone's seen it from it's original context, I'd like to see it; it's quality though almost seems as if it's from a Brawl character, and WW Link didn't get any Lon Lon milk ;).
 

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People seem to think if anything is colorful and non-realistic is cel-shaded


The key word in Cel-shaded is shaded...It's a type of shading that mimics cartoons. Brawl models use gradients, which are not used in cel-shading...
 

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Young Link is my favorite character in Melee, no contest. But if anyone's leaving (i.e. The Doc, Roy and Pichu) his head is on the block.
That's true. I mean, they're trying to get rid of clones, so there's no way the Melee link is returning. WW Link just wouldn't fit into Brawl with his appearance imo. MM Link would be fun if they updated his appearance and granted him different sword attacks. But overall I honestly would prefer no Young Link at all in the end. I mean, seeing the list of characters so far, it's far cooler that every character is unique both in moves and appearance (with the exception of Mario and Luigi).
 

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If you recall the sticker update, the stickers were all artwork from previous games: Strikers mario, Baloon fighter's cover art, the wrestling bird this from thousand year door ( could go on, but I think you get the point). They were all artwork released for previous games, nothing new, except for one thing that caught my eye on the third screen:



That bottle is better quality then the melee trophy, I'd never that pic before, as I thought further upon it. Granted it might be from some artwork I hadn't seen, but a thourough search turned up fruitless (OOT, Melee, note the corners). If anyone's seen it from it's original context, I'd like to see it; it's quality though almost seems as if it's from a Brawl character, and WW Link didn't get any Lon Lon milk ;).
Irregardless of Young Link formerly being a former clone....
The Sticker is a real point in his favor, if I weren't a more conservative predictor, I might say:
Sticker update=Y.Link CONFIRMED!
 

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Oh yeah... adding details to a sticker totally implies that Young Link will return. [/sarcasm]

The assumptions just get crazier every day.
 

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All of ones perceived existence is made up of nothing but assumptions...
 

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Oh yeah... adding details to a sticker totally implies that Young Link will return. [/sarcasm]

The assumptions just get crazier every day.
I would post a witty reply, buy Psycho already owned you. I'm not saying it's an outright confirmation, but it's a point in Y.Link's favor.
 

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Owned me? No.

Anyways, yeah, you didn't say confirmed... That's a good thing. Still I just don't see how it's too much of a point in his favor. It's merely a sticker. :/
 
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