I'm still holding out hope for Ness, but while I'm waiting I thought I'd go ahead and make a topic for another character I'd like to see in Brawl, namely Paper Mario. I think he is easily distinct enough as a character to warrant his own unique appearance as a playable character. He has his hammer, of course, plus various paper-themed abilities. Also, there are many interesting possibilities for paper-themed stages as well. Anyways, go ahead and post with your ideas on this.
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Official Paper Mario in Brawl topic
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Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
I seriously doubt it, why not give Bowser and Peach paper forms too? Not going to happen.
I would like to see Paper Mario's badge abilities utilized. Of course, we cannot forget Paper Mario's unique ability to glide as a paper plane. His final smash possibilities are great as well. Star power offers neat ways of dispatching foes.
error_alt_delete
Smash Champion
he would ber a very unique character, but sadly, he is another mario, and nobody wants to have another mario.(with a few exceptions).
Glinth
Smash Journeyman
Icanhasthinkupmoveset?
^B: Paper Airplane (Basically metaknights) or Flurry Rise (Flurry appears and carries mario upwards, then drops him)
>B: Paper Roll (Rolls like yoshi/sonic) or Bobbery Throw
B: Hammer Smash (Can be charged)
Down B: Paper Boat (makes a tidal wave and turns into his boat form)
Also he should have the ability to glide
^B: Paper Airplane (Basically metaknights) or Flurry Rise (Flurry appears and carries mario upwards, then drops him)
>B: Paper Roll (Rolls like yoshi/sonic) or Bobbery Throw
B: Hammer Smash (Can be charged)
Down B: Paper Boat (makes a tidal wave and turns into his boat form)
Also he should have the ability to glide
Wow, nice idease on the moveset. Those definitely draw attention to his paper aspect, which is really the point of having him as a character. I'm not sure I would have his hammer as a B move though, I might have it be part of his smash A moves, similar to how Ness pulls out his bat. For his B move he could do something else, like maybe kick a koopa shell which goes out and comes back like in the games.
EpicE
Smash Journeyman
I am really against this, we dont need all those **** Mario characters in the game, either way this wont happen so w/e.
AdmantNESS
Smash Ace
Superninjabreadman
Smash Lord
Possibly a Dr. M replacement. Sakurai -is- Trying to get rid of clones. it makes sense.
He falls into one of the two categories of characters I oppose: redundant characters (i.e. alternate forms of characters we already have). Mario is in already, he needn't take up two spots on the roster just to appear in 2D as well as 3D. Mario can represent his entire franchise just fine as he is.
Zevox
Zevox
But, can Mario turn into a paper plane? Does he whack people over the head with a hammer? Can he fold himself into a boat? No I say! Only Paper Mario can represent his series, and regular Mario, while also cool, just doesn't do the trick.
So what? Moves are given to a character if they get into the game, the character isn't added to the game because of their moves. Paper Mario has no good reason to be in Brawl, and one huge reason not in and of the fact that hes redundant.
Incidentally, Mario does use hammers in many of his games outside of Paper Mario, including his very first appearance in the original Donkey Kong and the more recent Mario & Luigi games.
Zevox
This guys right. The Mario we have right now is not an adequate representative for the storied SMRPG series. I'd take an established and popular character like Paper Mario who has made more of a splash in the RPG realm than regular Mario did.
Keepin' it alive in here. With all of the lame updates this week (Spectator is actually ok, but not great) I gotta keep myself entertained somehow. I still think Papre Mario is a great idea and I think he adds plenty of flavor all his own as I outlined in an earlier post.
_Slick_
Smash Ace
Pixls for Smashes please.
Biggie Smalls
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Go away Troll.
Finally, someone with reasoning.
HE IS NOT THE MARIO WE KNOW AND LOVE! He is a twisted Mario, in a different universe with the timeline starting when Mario first beats Bowser: Super Mario Bros.
That's why they're paper, and there's no Daisy(yes, that's why in thousand year door Luigi saved Princess Eclair, of Waffleland instead of Daisy of Sarasaland), no Wario, and no Waluigi.
Ergo, he is a completely different Mario, thus giving him the chance to be a fifth Mario Representative, or take the Wario style by himself. There will be six, definatly.
Sixth spot is either Bowser Jr. or Geno.
Oh, this is so much BS. There isn't and never has been any effort to put any sort of continuity or timeline into the Mario games. The vast majority are stand-alone games - even the three Paper Mario games never reference each other's stories. The more recent stories give the impression that the characters have become aware of how repetitive Bowser's actions become, but thats the extent of it. Any attempt at claiming otherwise is utterly laughable. Paper Mario was Paper and Daisy, Wario, and Waluigi weren't in Paper Mario for the simple reason that the developers made the game that way (Paper Mario's name actually is only such in English, the decision to render the graphical style in 2D was a throwback to his classic origins; and Wario and Daisy haven't been in mainstream Mario games for some time, save Wario's stint as a PC in the DS remake of 64, and Waluigi has never appeared outside of the sports/party spin-offs), not because of any convoluted alternate-universe timeline. The Zelda series is the one with that, not Mario.Zevox
Biggie Smalls
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Sure, they never reference their past stories, but who cares? It's the same concept with constantly changing playing styles.
Hell, I bet they hinted the timeline started at the end of Super Mario Bros. by putting 8-bit Mario in(if you jumped in a vase in a mansion you turned into him with the music playing).
Also, there's four. Super Mario RPG to be precise. He was turned to paper to avoid issues with Square Enix, and was a completely original and great concept. Notice, that the Mario games reference each predessesing game but Paper Mario doesn't?
The reason? They're in a different ****ing universe.
Hell, I bet they hinted the timeline started at the end of Super Mario Bros. by putting 8-bit Mario in(if you jumped in a vase in a mansion you turned into him with the music playing).
Also, there's four. Super Mario RPG to be precise. He was turned to paper to avoid issues with Square Enix, and was a completely original and great concept. Notice, that the Mario games reference each predessesing game but Paper Mario doesn't?
The reason? They're in a different ****ing universe.
Biggie Smalls
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I'm pointing all of this out, to show that Paper Mario 64 IS the sequel to Super Mario RPG by the view of Nintendo, but not legally because of legal issues with Square if they kept the same concept.
well paper mario would be a specific and unique addition in my opinion if he were included playing very differently with a style akin somewhat to g&w's with the ability to glide and actually making use of his arsenal AND its easier to change outfits when your only 2d ;-) think about that
The point was that you attempting to pass "Paper Mario" off as a different person from Mario is utterly incorrect, because there is no continuity within the Mario games causing multiple Marios to exist. Its all the same person.
Thats what is called an "easter egg." In any event, how would it mean anything for a timeline? Graphical changes in the games aren't related to their stories, especially something as simple as the improvement from 16-bit to more recent images.Biggie Smalls said:
This is the whole point: none of the Mario games reference each other's stories. Mario World, Mario Land, Super Mario, Paper Mario, not a single one. They are stand-alone games. And even if it were true, this certainly wouldn't mean the Paper Mario games occur in another universe - theres absolutely no evidence to support that outlandish claim.Biggie Smalls said:
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firedragon_jing
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Paper Mario is a unique character, especially more than Dr. Mario. Paper Mario defined his own franchis as a 2D/3D spin off of the original Square/Nintendo Mario RPG. He wouldn't be a clone character because of his own unique fighting style, and even though we already have Mario, doesn't mean another form of him can't and won't be in it.
El_Duderino
Smash Apprentice
The fact that Mario is in the game does not automatically preclude Paper Mario from being there as well, just like Dr. Mario and Young Link were not precluded from SSBM. Sakurai has said that he wanted to move away from clone characters, but he meant moveset clones, not multiple versions of the same character. Paper Mario has a different moveset, and indeed moves in an entirely different manner from Mario, and therefore he is not a clone in the SSB sense.
I can't say if he will or will not be in, but there exists no reason to completely remove him from consideration. SSBM's unlockable roster came as a big surprise to a lot of people, and I doubt Brawl will be any different.
I can't say if he will or will not be in, but there exists no reason to completely remove him from consideration. SSBM's unlockable roster came as a big surprise to a lot of people, and I doubt Brawl will be any different.