[Nov 16, 2014] Smash Weekend @ Gamers Room: Project M & Melee (Concord, NC)

[pluto]

oh well. it's an argument that'll never really pan out (i was never really arguing, just kinda throwin' in my two cents btw). like you said, it's okay to not like things. i like brawl, just not competitively, but there's no reason to be upset over people who play it that way. i really believe Sm4sh will be more competitive, but we'll just have to wait and see.

man so many birthdays coming up! sunday actually works waayyyyy better for me anyway, as usual, so i'll definitely be there now! (i gotta practice. i haven't played PM since smash carolina V) .___.

 

[MLSword]

Have to postpone until Sunday the 16th, I'm incredibly sorry guys but I have had no choice. Please PM me if you have questions/issues/ect. However there is an event down in UNCC this Saturday so if you have the opportunity go ahead and hit that up. https://www.facebook.com/events/723154127779595/

R.I.P. Me probably being able to attend

 

[MLSword]

XD Accidentally double posted cuz stupid school computers But yeah CURSES Gosh dang it Cody I'll prob have to wait another month to see how far I've come sigh... well, best of luck to you guys I'll see if I can still come, but the percent chances are now prob. around 10-15%

 

[pluto]

Foo and I will be the only ones to show.

and somehow Foo will still get 4th and i'll still get 7th.

 

[SoulOfSmash]

Videos are finally up on the new channel sorry it took so long guys just wanted to make sure the new channel was ready before I uploaded them. Thanks for your patience and I can't wait to record some more stuff, see you guys Sunday!

 

[MLSword]

I accidentally posted before I finished the image, now it's done. Also, karma says she isn't coming, so...

(I'll be coming, because I will come every time until I get at least top 3, but a lot of people won't)

EDIT; WHERE ARE TEH VIDS?!?!?!?
EDIT 2; MAKE ME GREEN PLOX

If only I could drive Also..... Just watched you vs Fox

 

[MLSword]

Videos are finally up on the new channel sorry it took so long guys just wanted to make sure the new channel was ready before I uploaded them. Thanks for your patience and I can't wait to record some more stuff, see you guys Sunday!

When do you think you will start streaming on Twitch?

 

[Foo]

If only I could drive Also..... Just watched you vs Fox

I choked so hard that game >.> I had a chance to break to curse, but I threw it away hard. I played awfully and SD'd like 4 times. Also, they won't stream on twitch because of bad internet.

@ SoulOfSmash Responding to your commentary in games

Foo vs Scarfed Mamoswine
- Downb and downb dive kick are both jump cancelable at a certain point
- I did mean to double downsmash, if the opponent isn't mashing and I double downsmash, it leads into nairs which leads into more combo.
- Falcon is my troll character, not a pet project lawl. Roy is my pet project whom we may see next time

Foo vs Vorose (first set)
- I didn't charge fsmash too long when I had him stunned off stage, I was waiting for the pop up because he was too low to fsmash. I timed it right, but vorose had perfect DI. I should have gone for bair instead.
- You can't "pretty much" move instantly after neutral b. You straight up can lol. You can dash cancel it the frame it comes out.
- When I couldn't recover, I faded back to die faster. No real reason.
- ZSS is a semi floaty if that stats thread in GD is to be believed.

Foo vs Karma
- Going back to wario ware would have been really bad. While I like that stage a lot, it's sonic's best stage by far. (yoshi's island was terrible though, lol. If it weren't for the dip in the middle.. lol

Foo vs Vorose (second set)
- Sorry to john, but I was emotionally drained after the previous set and hadn't eaten since breakfast (mistake). That's why I was missing all my punishes
- It's not that I am unfamiliar with the matchup, it's just Zero Suit's worst matchup. Zss loses neutral, cannot combo fox, and cannot gimp fox as easily as most characters.
- Second commentator nailed it. Tech errors... tech errors everywhere. 3 SDs out of 8 stocks is pretty rough lol
- That upsmash in game 2 was supposed to be uptilt

Oh well, I just have to not choke on sunday.

 

[MLSword]

I choked so hard that game >.> I had a chance to break to curse, but I threw it away hard. I played awfully and SD'd like 4 times. Also, they won't stream on twitch because of bad internet.

@ SoulOfSmash Responding to your commentary in games

Foo vs Scarfed Mamoswine
- Downb and downb dive kick are both jump cancelable at a certain point
- I did mean to double downsmash, if the opponent isn't mashing and I double downsmash, it leads into nairs which leads into more combo.
- Falcon is my troll character, not a pet project lawl. Roy is my pet project whom we may see next time

Foo vs Vorose (first set)
- I didn't charge fsmash too long when I had him stunned off stage, I was waiting for the pop up because he was too low to fsmash. I timed it right, but vorose had perfect DI. I should have gone for bair instead.
- You can't "pretty much" move instantly after neutral b. You straight up can lol. You can dash cancel it the frame it comes out.
- When I couldn't recover, I faded back to die faster. No real reason.
- ZSS is a semi floaty if that stats thread in GD is to be believed.

Foo vs Karma
- Going back to wario ware would have been really bad. While I like that stage a lot, it's sonic's best stage by far. (yoshi's island was terrible though, lol. If it weren't for the dip in the middle.. lol

Foo vs Vorose (second set)
- Sorry to john, but I was emotionally drained after the previous set and hadn't eaten since breakfast (mistake). That's why I was missing all my punishes
- It's not that I am unfamiliar with the matchup, it's just Zero Suit's worst matchup. Zss loses neutral, cannot combo fox, and cannot gimp fox as easily as most characters.
- Second commentator nailed it. Tech errors... tech errors everywhere. 3 SDs out of 8 stocks is pretty rough lol
- That upsmash in game 2 was supposed to be uptilt

Oh well, I just have to not choke on sunday.

I just love being Marth, since if you react perfectly to Fox's recovery options, you can gimp him every time he tries to recover XD Oh and while IDK about how good ZSS's gimping game is on Fox, you definitely missed some free edgeguards here and there. Also, not johns Oh and BTW is it alright with you if I basically play like Vorosh but SHDL consistently

EDIT: Oh and Foo, I am wondering, do you by chance have PM netplay online?

 

[Foo]

I just love being Marth, since if you react perfectly to Fox's recovery options, you can gimp him every time he tries to recover XD Oh and while IDK about how good ZSS's gimping game is on Fox, you definitely missed some free edgeguards here and there. Also, not johns Oh and BTW is it alright with you if I basically play like Vorosh but SHDL consistently

EDIT: Oh and Foo, I am wondering, do you by chance have PM netplay online?

I got it working, but then immediately stopped because laaaaaaaaaaaaaag. I cannot stand playing on netplay lol. It's a laggy mess. Smash should only be played at 0 ping.

Also, if I missed some free edgeguards (which I did), he should have side-b'd. No idea why he only used up-b to recover lol.

 

[MLSword]

I got it working, but then immediately stopped because laaaaaaaaaaaaaag. I cannot stand playing on netplay lol. It's a laggy mess. Smash should only be played at 0 ping.

Also, if I missed some free edgeguards (which I did), he should have side-b'd. No idea why he only used up-b to recover lol.

Ok so.. something happened. Ok so call me crazy, but I played PM for the first time since I played last tournament. Now the previous 4 days before this, 3 of them I played Brawl all day. Now, some how my movement and combo game and understanding of the game is better O-0 I am seeing myself combo certain attacks together better, and optimize my tools more effectively. Also, I could never SHDL consistently, now I can. The entire time I am like.... "wtf" I guess maybe for utilizing my tools better, maybe it's becuase I was deprived of them in Brawl and now I use them more and better than I did? IDK XD Now I need to stop playing league of legends and start playing Smash some more BUT I AM SO ADDICTED TO LEAGUE ALL OF A SUDDEN I THINK I"LL PLAY IT ALL DAY :D :D :D :D :D (P.S. Practicing combo's on ZSS with Marth AND Fox )

 

[Foo]

Ok so.. something happened. Ok so call me crazy, but I played PM for the first time since I played last tournament. Now the previous 4 days before this, 3 of them I played Brawl all day. Now, some how my movement and combo game and understanding of the game is better O-0 I am seeing myself combo certain attacks together better, and optimize my tools more effectively. Also, I could never SHDL consistently, now I can. The entire time I am like.... "wtf" I guess maybe for utilizing my tools better, maybe it's becuase I was deprived of them in Brawl and now I use them more and better than I did? IDK XD Now I need to stop playing league of legends and start playing Smash some more BUT I AM SO ADDICTED TO LEAGUE ALL OF A SUDDEN I THINK I"LL PLAY IT ALL DAY :D :D :D :D :D (P.S. Practicing combo's on ZSS with Marth AND Fox )

Ah, league. Now there's a game I've sunk waaaaaay too much time into. I've probably broken 10,000 games. If anyone thinks my ZSS is good and plays league, they should see my Vlad or Anivia. I am CRUEL in league.

As for why you are "doing better in PM." It's one of two things, imo.

1. You are "fresh." It's easy to fall into an autopilot rut in smash, where you always follow the same pattern. When you come back fresh, you have shaken those shackles and can rethink everything.
2. After playing brawl, going to PM and suddenly being able to combo and do things feels really good.

P.S. I don't understand why people have trouble with the sh double laser with fox. I got it almost imediately. Just shorthop and immediately spam b until you hit the ground then repeat lol

 

[alpha_leonis]

Ah, league. Now there's a game I've sunk waaaaaay too much time into. I've probably broken 10,000 games. If anyone thinks my ZSS is good and plays league, they should see my Vlad or Anivia. I am CRUEL in league.

As for why you are "doing better in PM." It's one of two things, imo.

1. You are "fresh." It's easy to fall into an autopilot rut in smash, where you always follow the same pattern. When you come back fresh, you have shaken those shackles and can rethink everything.
2. After playing brawl, going to PM and suddenly being able to combo and do things feels really good.

P.S. I don't understand why people have trouble with the sh double laser with fox. I got it almost imediately. Just shorthop and immediately spam b until you hit the ground then repeat lol

There are less jump frames in project m, thus making a lot of fox tech skill a lot easier in project m than in melee. Try to shdl in melee as consistent as you can do in project m. It won't feel the same.

 

[MLSword]

There are less jump frames in project m, thus making a lot of fox tech skill a lot easier in project m than in melee. Try to shdl in melee as consistent as you can do in project m. It won't feel the same.

It is about the same consistency in Melee.

Ah, league. Now there's a game I've sunk waaaaaay too much time into. I've probably broken 10,000 games. If anyone thinks my ZSS is good and plays league, they should see my Vlad or Anivia. I am CRUEL in league.

As for why you are "doing better in PM." It's one of two things, imo.

1. You are "fresh." It's easy to fall into an autopilot rut in smash, where you always follow the same pattern. When you come back fresh, you have shaken those shackles and can rethink everything.
2. After playing brawl, going to PM and suddenly being able to combo and do things feels really good.

P.S. I don't understand why people have trouble with the sh double laser with fox. I got it almost imediately. Just shorthop and immediately spam b until you hit the ground then repeat lol

1v1 me bro Riven 4 life. But seriously tho, hit me up on league, maybe we could play some time.

As for point number 1, I suppose I can agree with.
Point number 2 I agree with partly, tho you can do combo's in Brawl as well (mostly followups [like 95% are followups XD ] ) But I won't argue with you.

Also, for Fox, I personally slide my finger down from to and press it twice. I think that spamming would prob. not be the most optimal way to do it, as it is much harder to spam b consistently and get the correct timing.

 

[SoulOfSmash]

Little trailer for the new channel. Enjoy!

 

[Foo]

3.5 is coming out on the 14th, is the tourney going to be on 3.0 or 3.5?

@Sword I'm Foo18 on league, NA server. Feel free to add me.

 

[SoulOfSmash]

3.5 is coming out on the 14th, is the tourney going to be on 3.0 or 3.5?

@Sword I'm Foo18 on league, NA server. Feel free to add me.

Undecided for rn ill let you guys know for sure on Friday. But, general consensus is that we'll be doing 3.5.

 

[MLSword]

3.5 is coming out on the 14th, is the tourney going to be on 3.0 or 3.5?

@Sword I'm Foo18 on league, NA server. Feel free to add me.

Riven Only, No Items, Summoners Rift

(Actually nvm about items, i luv them on Riven ) But yeah, me and another friend called Joe play league pretty often, I'll be sure to invite you. Do you have Skype BTW?

 

[Foo]

Riven Only, No Items, Summoners Rift (Actually nvm about items, i luv them on Riven ) But yeah, me and another friend called Joe play league pretty often, I'll be sure to invite you. Do you have Skype BTW?

Yes, I have skype. I'll tell you on league if I get around to playing it tonight. If I'm on, it'll be some time between 7pm and 12am eastern time

 

[tc1]

What time does this start?

 

[SoulOfSmash]

What time does this start?

doors will open around 11am, registration starts at 12 noon, and aim to start around 1 pm

 

[Foo]

doors will open around 11am, registration starts at 12 noon, and aim to start around 1 pm

So... 3.5 isn't out yet. Even though it should be out in a few (minutes, hours, days or months), are we still doing 3.5? It'll be really different, and we'll have basically no time to prepare, so...

 

[DtJ SmithZzz]

will this be doing 3.5? If it is I'm interested

 

[SoulOfSmash]

will this be doing 3.5? If it is I'm interested

As far as I know everyone else this weekend is running 3.5 so I will aswell I'm sure we'll all be on Facebook tomorrow working out a basic stage list

 

[DtJ SmithZzz]

okay I'll likely be at this then.

 

[Foo]

Ugh, but ZSS is so different. With her recovery nerfs, I'll probably keep SDing and so much else got changed. It'll be a nightmare to get used to that in less than a day.

 

[pluto]

they made squirtle even worse. i'm over it.

 

[MLSword]

Can't believe they NERFED Marth... sigh.......... Was hoping for Melee uptilt but.... *cries in corner*

 

[Foo]

Can't believe they NERFED Marth... sigh.......... Was hoping for Melee uptilt but.... *cries in corner*

Keep in mind that almost every other character around marth got nerfed.

 

[MLSword]

Keep in mind that almost every other character around marth got nerfed.

I just don't understand as to why they would nerf his grab. Is was nowhere near the level of Lucas's OU Upsmash or Mewtwo's teleport, so why :*(

 

[Foo]

Yeah, but those things got nerfed a lot. Marth grab was barely touched. I'd say marth will be better this patch than he was in the last one.

 

[SoulOfSmash]

And yet Samus was barely touched, confirmed best character in the game! #SamusMasterRace

 

[Foo]

And yet Samus was barely touched, confirmed best character in the game! #SamusMasterRace

samus is probably high tier this patch. Only nerf is recovery nerf, but it barely matters.

 

[SoulOfSmash]

samus is probably high tier this patch. Only nerf is recovery nerf, but it barely matters.

Please Samus was always high tier, imo she was 2nd best in the game in 3.02. Of course me and ESAM are the only 2 people on earth that thought that but w/e.

 

[MLSword]

Please Samus was always high tier, imo she was 2nd best in the game in 3.02. Of course me and ESAM are the only 2 people on earth that thought that but w/e.

You are very funny XD XD XD Good one Soul. Would read again.

 

[SoulOfSmash]

Check Below
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[SoulOfSmash]

Alright guys I finalized the stage list and you can download the files to edit your stage selection screen HERE. I can put this on your SD cards when you get there but it would really help me out if you can download and put it in yourselves. It's just 2 simple files and of course you can always restore them to default later. Thanks

14 stages (7 Starters, 7 Counterpicks)
1-2-2-1 starter striking, 3 stage bans

Starters:
Battlefield
Final Destination
Pokemon Stadium 2
Smashville
Dreamland
Green Hill Zone
Yoshis Story

Counter Picks:
Warioware
Metal Cavern
Norfair
Fountain Of Dreams
Distant Planet
Lylat Cruise
Yoshis Island

Subject to change but for tommorow this will be the list.

 

[T-Raz]

I love the Zelda changes more than I thought I would. Sad I can't recover using neutral B anymore, however I can dig it with up B cancels. As for Sheik she felt unchanged from what I played of her. Dedede is still fun cause of Dee shenanigans.=)