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Pacifist60000

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That Hawk bonus is pretty cool. Never got that before, but then again, never really tried.

Holy hell, the hammer drop bonus in Melee was hard. And inane.
 

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I've gotten it in Very Easy a looooooong time ago. Way before I started playing online. I was super proud of myself.

A couple of people know exactly how the CPU plays though. I assume once you figure that out, it's not insanely difficult to get it on harder difficulties.
 

felipe_9595

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in Very Hard the guys that might be a problem are:

Yoshi (if you leave a yo**** too time alone, bye bonus xPPP)
Mario Bros Team (beware on the first second, that mario is dangerous)
Maybe fox with a random laser or with a Sh uair
Fightin polygon team

the other ones are meh
 

chuckj

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HAWK - only use aerial attacks lol

im pretty sure other people got it when trying for 1P highscores =)
 

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Pacifist - you don't hit your opponent, or attack.

you can get pacifist by killing someone with like..an item i believe.
 

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So this thread made me want to go and look up all the different bonuses in 1P mode. Comet mystic looks insanely hard to get. You have to star KO yourself at the last minute but make sure the game set occurs BEFORE your stock is deducted. Probably only doable with a tornado on hyrule and acid on zebes.
 

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It's possible with Falcon to do an uair upB combo that star KOs but leaves you high enough that you can upB again and star KO yourself. That's the only other way I can think of off the top of my head.
 

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It's possible with Falcon to do an uair upB combo that star KOs but leaves you high enough that you can upB again and star KO yourself. That's the only other way I can think of off the top of my head.
You can also do it with Pikachu on the first stage, kill someone off the top and quickly jump to the top and do a double up B.
 

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I remember getting that one a couple of times, but purely by luck. That was way back in the day when I didn't know what z-cancelling was!
 

Pacifist60000

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I'm really interested in single player bonuses and achieving high scores. Comet Mystic is also achievable on at least hyrule with ness, a double jump plus a completely vertical ascending pk thunder will kill ness. As mentioned, Comet Mystic is also easily achievable on zebes of course with acid, but you have to take damage (and forfeit No Damage, Full Power which together is 20,000, double Comet Mystic).

Other bonuses that everyone probably knows about, Pacifist is the largest single-level bonus, at 60,000, and is easily achievable on Pikachu's stage at all difficulties because Pikachu will use up b to kill itself. But everyone knows that! Also I believe, but am not positive, that Pacifist is only achievable if your damage total at the end of the level is zero, so if you use an item, it won't work.

If you're fighting a normal stage, and are concerned only about a high score, it is best to only use aerial moves, because Hawk is the highest bonus for using an exclusive moveset. Hawk is always accompanied by Smash-less, totaling 23,000. Other exclusive bonuses, such as Special Move (only Bs, accompanied by Smash-less), Single Move (1 move), Shooter (range, accompanied by Smash-less), and Judo Warrior (accompanied by Smash-less and usually Throw Down), are worth less points despite many of them being more difficult to achieve! (all these bonuses also cancel out Cheap Shot.)
 

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No Damage Clear.
And:
Speed King.

What, were you waiting for them to kill themselves?
LOLz!
 

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I'm really interested in single player bonuses and achieving high scores. Comet Mystic is also achievable on at least hyrule with ness, a double jump plus a completely vertical ascending pk thunder will kill ness. As mentioned, Comet Mystic is also easily achievable on zebes of course with acid, but you have to take damage (and forfeit No Damage, Full Power which together is 20,000, double Comet Mystic).

Other bonuses that everyone probably knows about, Pacifist is the largest single-level bonus, at 60,000, and is easily achievable on Pikachu's stage at all difficulties because Pikachu will use up b to kill itself. But everyone knows that! Also I believe, but am not positive, that Pacifist is only achievable if your damage total at the end of the level is zero, so if you use an item, it won't work.

If you're fighting a normal stage, and are concerned only about a high score, it is best to only use aerial moves, because Hawk is the highest bonus for using an exclusive moveset. Hawk is always accompanied by Smash-less, totaling 23,000. Other exclusive bonuses, such as Special Move (only Bs, accompanied by Smash-less), Single Move (1 move), Shooter (range, accompanied by Smash-less), and Judo Warrior (accompanied by Smash-less and usually Throw Down), are worth less points despite many of them being more difficult to achieve! (all these bonuses also cancel out Cheap Shot.)
As said, you can use Pikachu's up b to get comet mystic on the first stage. Also, make sure you get Yoshi Rainbow, DK perfect, Perfect stage clear, Race to the Finish clear with 0 damage, and Kirby Ranks.

I believe it is also possible to get Pacifist vs. Fox, I have once gone near the edge and Fox simply up b'd off screen without me damaging him.
 

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cheap shot is a -99 point penalty for using the same move too much (without going for single move). I don't know the exact details but I always assume if you stale out a move or two you get it since that would make the same sense. I get this a lot by doing repeated platform drop uairs on metal mario.

Also apparently Hawk (aerials only) is worth more than All Variations (use every single move at least once).
 

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Pacifist can be gotten in that obscure Kirby method where you swallow them but they break out when off-stage...guessing more or less TAS only, and it's only used in that highscore TAS nobody liked (probably because it was the TAS community and not a smash bros community).

I've gotten it against Link (an exploding capsule knocked him offstage and I edgehogged), Fox (shield near the edge and he'll firefox off sometimes), Pikachu and Metal Mario (do a bunch of edge grabs and get lucky, I guess)
 

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First off, I have to say a no damage clear in very easy is like saying "I was the best boxer that baby ever fought"..... try Very Hard and come back to me with a real score. I have cleared every character without loosing a life on very hard..... sure not the same high score, but atleast its a challenge to become that much more perfect man.

All you have to do for hawk is stay in the air longer then you were on the ground. SO jump a lot.

You can get commet mystic with everyone on the Samus stage. All you gotta do is let her damage you up, then kill her in the up dirrection, and jump in the acid after her. lol. You can get comet mystic with link on Hyrule if you jump with a bomb out from the top of the stage.

Yoshi rambow is really easy with jigglypuff because her forward thow can stanger their landing, and you can change up the order with a back throw to fix a quick mistake in order.
- also, yoshi computers have what I call item addiction. Its when you ignore everything else on the stage if they know an item can be held. If you camp this item and kill them by guarding it, you can get speed master by standing next to a fan. lolz lolz.

You can easily get pasifist against pikachu and fox with every character. Kirby can get passifist on Metal Mario easily too.

For Pikachu: just double jump between the top of the poke'door and the helicopter pad. it will eventually teliport wrong to the outside of the stage. Its all about getting him to face the wrong way for the grip of the edge.

I should just write down a play by play for each stage....... ehhh.... friday.... cant post.... must do things other then a computer..... will edit later when I am back. Peace.
 

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What Blade689 said, pasifist is super easy for most chars (stand on helipad, pikachu suicides lol). Link usually just upBs of the cliff anyways on the left side of hyrule. Fox the same on Sector Z.

And as for the commet mystic that is super easy, I've got it like 1,000,000,000,000x with every char on every stage!
YOU ALL ARE SCRUBS!
 

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I like to much around on 1p, like trying to star ko metal mario (easiest with kirby/pikachu utilt).
 

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cheap shot is a -99 point penalty for using the same move too much (without going for single move). I don't know the exact details but I always assume if you stale out a move or two you get it since that would make the same sense. I get this a lot by doing repeated platform drop uairs on metal mario.

Also apparently Hawk (aerials only) is worth more than All Variations (use every single move at least once).
I thought cheap shot was when you KO somebody from behind and Stale Moves was using too many of the same move.

Aren't there other bonuses like Marathon Man and Rock Solid (probably butchered the names) where you run a lot or move very slowly? Those might be from Melee.
 

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In 64 cheap shot *is* the stale moves penalty. There is no bonus called "stale moves" as far as I know. According to SmashWiki Cheap KO is a melee bonus given for KO'ing from behind. It does not exist in 64.
 

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Man, I'm confusing my Melee and 64 bonuses. And I'm pretty sure Rock Solid means you don't get knocked down. But then what's Immortal?
 

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Rock Solid is actually called Rock Steady and Immortal is the Melee equivalent of 64's No Miss (not No Miss clear which only happens at the very end).
Info from SmashWiki [wiki]Bonus_points[/wiki] article.
 

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I think it depends on the game. If it's an rpg / adventure / puzzle game where the whole point is to not know the answers / plot ahead of time b/c you are supposed to figure it out yourself, then using walkthroughs on the first playthrough is lame. If it's something like smash though, not using walkthroughs just means you get better at a much slower pace (e.g., I don't think my friends who are casual smashers would ever discover z-canceling by themselves w/o being told about it).
 

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yup, just looked it up. The "stale moves" one is in Melee, and so is "run, don't walk" for always running.
 

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I think it depends on the game. If it's an rpg / adventure / puzzle game where the whole point is to not know the answers / plot ahead of time b/c you are supposed to figure it out yourself, then using walkthroughs on the first playthrough is lame. If it's something like smash though, not using walkthroughs just means you get better at a much slower pace (e.g., I don't think my friends who are casual smashers would ever discover z-canceling by themselves w/o being told about it).
Well, somebody has to discover these things!
 

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Well sometimes there is the super secret hidden feature that no can can reasonably discover and that gets outed in some Japanese language only manga or guide and only slowly does the info percolate its way through boards and to the rest of the world. :D
 

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I got a no damage clear on Very hard once with DK.

Polygon team is the only real hard part.

Pacifist is easy on Link, Fox, Pika, and I've done it on samus before too.
 

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Well, with DK's over powered up+b, any stage with a handy cap difference on your side becomes pretty easy. I think DK can speedmaster every level too.

He can speedmaster metal dk without loosing the no miss aswell cuz metal mario falls so god dam fast that a cargo stall is all you need. lolz.
 

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Just did it again. Giant DK was actually the hardest stage this time; I got all the way to it perfect 3 times, got hit each time and start over, and then finally figured out how to handle him on the fourth.



^^Pic. Sexy score, huh? In fairness, I did it on my Mac at home, so it was running maybe 50-55 fps the whole time, but that actually makes it harder for me, not easier...

Overall, if you stay patient on the pollys and GDK, you should be alright. It's not that hard to avoid hits if you don't use moves with too much hitlag and abuse the CPU's bad AI.
 

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Impressive, but the fact the 50-55 FPS makes it less so.

It mostly just comes down to understanding and exploiting the CPU's tendencies.
 

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Impressive, but the fact the 50-55 FPS makes it less so.

It mostly just comes down to understanding and exploiting the CPU's tendencies.
See, now I gotta do it full speed sometime when I have access to a good computer. The disapproval of A$ fills me with shame.

And yeah, pretty much does come down to knowing what the little **********s are gonna do next. To master 1-player mode, young grasshopper, you must learn to play mindgames... with an opponent who has no mind.
 

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K shaky handheld camera vid of BATTLECOW'S TWELVE CHARACTER NO DAMAGE CLEAR RUN (CONSOLE VERSION) coming up soon!

Maybe.
 

Blade689

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do it with link, then you'll impress me a bit more. I still think dk is one of the easist characters to run throw single player with. Ness, and c.falc are close to dk, but his Up+B is just so good that its too good.
 

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Well sometimes there is the super secret hidden feature that no can can reasonably discover and that gets outed in some Japanese language only manga or guide and only slowly does the info percolate its way through boards and to the rest of the world. :D
You're lying.
 
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