Social NintenZone Social 6.0 - L'Arachel Edition, Apparently?

[Zinith]

Honestly, sometimes I wanna hop back in a time machine for a little experiment.

Just erase Xenoblade and Fire Emblem and see how you guys function without them.

Maybe it'd actually be NintenZone Social and not XenoFireEmblemBladeSocial.

Well you'd know I'd function just fine

 

[Deleted member]

No, it was for awhile but they must've switched back.

EDIT: Or maybe I'm just dumb. Idk.

Either way, it's still bad now, so it doesn't really matter if it the rules were changed for a while.

 

[Aurane]

Think I'll mostly take it easy today.

Does that mean you're not going to whine about how Rosalina sucks today?

Either way, it's still bad now, so it doesn't really matter if it the rules were changed for a while.

Well I was under the assumption that they were still changed. Apologies. *shrug*

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, sometimes I wanna hop back in a time machine for a little experiment.

Just erase Xenoblade and Fire Emblem and see how you guys function without them.

Maybe it'd actually be NintenZone Social and not XenoFireEmblemBladeSocial.

I'd function just fine apart from perhaps me in 2016 when I was more of an FE nerd, even then.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Mythra's heals are not guaranteed. I've had situations were RNG fails me and I don't get much needed heals from Critical heal builds. It's not consistent.

Nia's heals are far more potent and on top of that, they are 100% constant. She also can achieve a +50% Block Rate, and you can give her Ultimate Shield. So that's 25% to take no damage from an attack, 50% to Block the attack and heal back what little damage you take, and 100% heals at a constant rate.

Stuff like evasion builds also requires other Blades to work. What I do with Nia here is a True Solo - no bonuses from other Blades, and no other Drivers to help.

In a full party situation, Nia handles healing for you on her own so you don't waste an accessory slot on your other characters on the Crit Heal, and can just give them more damage boosting accessories.

Also, DPS doesn't matter unless you're a speedrunner. The actual objective of Challenge Mode is to collect as many orange cubes as possible, and Nia allows you to take a break from fighting to grab those really safely.

Hmm...

Alright, I tried out evasion build & critical healing build on the challenge you show in that video with Mythra only and no other blades.

And I admit, I didn't win any of those try.

So yeah, you can't just win with Mythra, I give you that.

However, despite my failing, I still did reach wave 3 on two try and removed a good chunk of health to the boss before dying.

So while Mythra can't solo this challenge if luck or if the right equipement is on her side, she still can do quit well on her own. But I give you that that evasion built are better with blades on your side, so a true solo Mythra could be impossible. (I say could because, heh, I'm not an expert I admit)

Tho, while reading your post, you did mention a full party situation, and here, I'm like:

"...but while you choose Nia healing over say:

-Shulk evasion, damages buff & Vision?

-Fiora critical health buff?

-Dagas ridiculous damages & AOE buff? (if you want to do a DAMAGE party)

-Infinity Fan healing on Morag, increase evasion for her & chance of blowing down the enemy while keep the aggro on you thanks his skill?

-Kos-Mos making you take less damages while dealing more in the process?

-Corvin stupid evasion buff & reload art that, while combining with Zeke, make Zeke basically a god a dodging, damages & aggro thanks to his 1 evasion art?

-Elma overdrive?

-Whatever broken stuff you put on Poppi QTr?"

Like, on their own, those skills aren't all the greatest, but combined with each others, those skills + good core + critical healing can make the need for a healer who is top tier at her job kinda of redundant.

Yes, Nia can do her job just good, but using any of those blades alongside other blades (Like Fiora + Mythra or Shulk + Brighid (who is a better evasion blades than Mythra, I that I should have point out)) can do what she does + other stuff in the mix. (Inf. Fan can heal, take the aggro and avoid just fine with some preparation on Morag, making you able to put better equipement to deal more damages for your allies) Those blades undermine what Nia can do in a full party setup, especially if you want to deal with the harder challenges, Nia could be replaced by someone else who can buff the damages party to end a fight faster (ending a fight faster is always a plus imo.) What top tier healing serve when I can't get hit at all or the damages I take so small anyway? A decent healing blade who can do other stuff can do the same job just fine, like, again, inf. fan.

Also, getting as many orange cubes as possible is really easy on some challenges (hi Chickenheart Challenge) , and if you don't get them all, being able to finish a fight faster and retry again is much better. (that, and the fact we are talking about Challenge Mode make me think that, outside of said mode, all of Nia advantage are again overshadowed by others blades, since the superbosses can be stomped on with little problems on any setup you have, Nia can tan, heal and as unique arts, yes, but those 3 points don't make really want to use her outside if I did for the lolz, and alot of blades can go YOLO on superbosses without problems with the right full party setup, so it's more up to your preference there)

Brief, maybe I am too harsh on poor Nia, but my 500~ hours on this game made me to use Nia and less and less as time goes on. I just have too much fun and better result with others blades, to sacrifice one of them to put Nia on my team, feel like more of a handicap imo and let's not go over on Nia as a driver, because there, oh lord, she really have big problems.

Double brief, yeah, I indeed suck at video games, but Nia is still the blades I wouldn't choose if I wanted to get good result, outside if I am playing just for fun.

....Tho, alteast she isn't as awful as Dromarch. 'not sure if that's a compliment or not.

 

[Aurane]

This place without Xenoblade would be fairly the same. This place without Fire Emblem though? Don't tease me such a dream. This thread would be so much better without FEH discussion every day.

 

[Metal Shop X]

This place without Xenoblade would be fairly the same. This place without Fire Emblem though? Don't tease me such a dream. This thread would be so much better without FEH discussion every day.

Speaking of that, there is a fire emblem board, right?

If so, why is there still alot of peoples talking about Heroes here?

 

[Deleted member]

Imagine trying to get over not gertting the character you want and then seeing this ****

@LampyTehGr8 last response but this is essentially what Incineroar did to your lame little owl. Incineroar the Tiger Mask of Pokemon is the best. Decidueye sucks lol pic.twitter.com/D10ecInlEI

— ⚒Kabal⚒ The TRUE CEO of Kabal fans (@TheRealKabal) November 3, 2018

This is like the "Mimikyu incident" but worse
Thank god I don't have to deal with this **** here

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Ya'll need to respect each other's interests and hobbies, sheesh.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Jojalole]

Speaking of that, there is a fire emblem board, right?

If so, why is there still alot of peoples talking about Heroes here?

I don't know why. I personally have stopped talking FEH here because we now have a subforum for that, and I wish everyone went there to discuss FEH since those who watch that thread are the ones interested in FEH, unlike here that it's obvious lots of people simply don't care.

 

[Aurane]

Ya'll need to respect each other's interests and hobbies, sheesh.

Smooth Criminal

I can respect their interests without liking them. Easy.

 

[kirbsmash]

Hey, new guy here, but any thoughts on Bara Cat? (I'm sorry about ghost birb but pokken tho )

 

[Metal Shop X]

Holy ****, I'm trying Chiko Nia True Solo run on the same challenge and it's boring as ****!

Yeah, I'm indestructible, but christ, it's soooooooooooooooooo sloooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww............................

Are they any human being who actually like doing this?

I have to do a Corvin True Solo run with Zeke to see the difference.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, new guy here, but any thoughts on Bara Cat?

He's my least favorite thing about Ultimate and close to becoming one of my least favorite starters.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, new guy here, but any thoughts on Bara Cat? (I'm sorry about ghost birb but pokken tho )

Way better than I expected Incineroar to be TBH. Way better than how Greninja turned out.

 

[Aurane]

Hey, new guy here, but any thoughts on Bara Cat? (I'm sorry about ghost birb but pokken tho )

He's alright, I suppose.

 

[Zinith]

Hey, new guy here, but any thoughts on Bara Cat? (I'm sorry about ghost birb but pokken tho )

I didn't think it was physically possible for me to be so indifferent to a character ever. It's almost impressive how Incineroar is able to accomplish that...

 

[kirbsmash]

I'm just happy that they didn't go all in with the fire,

 

[Deleted member]

I'm surprised that Inceniroar is generally the character that people are the most salty about. Like, more so than characters like PP and Isabelle.

 

[kirbsmash]

after looking at more gameplay for Isabelle, I lost my hype for her.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I mean, it's a Social thread and it's not pure ****-posting, so FEH talk among peers here isn't like a cardinal sin or anything. It can be construed as a bit clique-ish to the uninitiated or uninterested in certain contexts, but it's not inherently malicious. It's like any other hobby that groups of people like and are excited about that occupies a niche.

This ****, however

This place without Fire Emblem though? Don't tease me such a dream. This thread would be so much better without FEH discussion every day

This is flat-ass rude and not cool at all. Disliking a subject is all well and good, but actively and visibly demeaning people for it makes you seem entitled and/or petty. I wish ****ing Smash speculation nuked from administrative/site-based orbit because I find it a pointless exercise that takes away from people actually discussing and playing the game itself, but you don't see me hating on it to the people that enjoy it and demanding they stop.

You don't like the conversation? Either try to participate in it to the best of your ability, change/alter it to the best of your ability, or simply go elsewhere. Don't be an ass to the other users just because they're talking about something you don't like or comprehend.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Deleted member]

after looking at more gameplay for Isabelle, I lost my hype for her.

I was only initially fake hyped for her so I didn't piss my bfriend off.

But yeah, IDK, like, I didn't even want Incineroar, I can't even spell it's name correctly half of the time. But what sold me is that it uses mostly wrestling moves.

 

[Aurane]

The thing about Incineroar to me is that Pokken exists. I couldn't care less what Pokémon is in Smash when Empoleon is a playable character in a different fighting game.

Now, I did kinda hope Incineroar wasn't the pick because he doesn't offer as much interesting moveset potential as, say, Decidueye or Lycanroc. But Smash Ultimate has been pretty kind to me.thus far, so I'll deal with it. I don't even dislike Incineroar.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm surprised that Inceniroar is generally the character that people are the most salty about. Like, more so than characters like PP and Isabelle.

You're probably not looking at the right place.
The Piranha Plant salt on Twitter is real, and I barely see any salt over Incineroar that doesn't come from me.

 

[kirbsmash]

it's counterattack can get it! I like it?? Like, it works a bit different and I live for that.

 

[Metal Shop X]

I won the Nia True Solo run in 20:06.

Holy ****, that's more boring than watching a pro Jigglypuff player camping at the ledge.

Never. again.

Now, time for crazy Zeke run.

 

[Deleted member]

I mean, it's a Social thread and it's not pure ****-posting, so FEH talk among peers here isn't like a cardinal sin or anything. It can be construed as a bit clique-ish to the uninitiated or uninterested in certain contexts, but it's not like inherently malicious or anything.

This ****, however



This is flat-*** rude and not cool at all. Disliking a subject is all well and good, but actively and visibly demeaning people for it makes you seem entitled and/or petty. I wish ****ing Smash speculation nuked from administrative/site-based orbit because I find it a pointless exercise that takes away from people actually discussing and playing the game itself, but you don't see me hating on it to the people that enjoy it.

You don't like the conversation? Either try to participate in it, change/alter it, or go elsewhere. Don't be an ***.

Smooth Criminal

It's nothing new though, it's been a complaint for literally years to the point where it's practicality an in joke to mention that it's always talked so much here for some reason despite not many people at large being interested.

Not that I mind at all, it doesn't take any effort to just skim over some posts. But still, doesn't help that a lot of the convos are often giant walls of text. Especially when you're on mobile.

The thing about Incineroar to me is that Pokken exists. I couldn't care less what Pokémon is in Smash when Empoleon is a playable character in a different fighting game.

Now, I did kinda hope Incineroar wasn't the pick because he doesn't offer as much interesting moveset potential as, say, Decidueye or Lycanroc. But Smash Ultimate has been pretty kind to me.thus far, so I'll deal with it. I don't even dislike Incineroar.

I still don't understand this. You have a wrestling fire cat vs ghost owl robinhood. Though I do admit, I do just tend to find fighters with arrows pretty boring. With some exceptions like taskmaster. Either way there's no way to know unless they actually have made it. But here we are with Incineroar.

You're probably not looking at the right place.
The Piranha Plant salt on Twitter is real, and I barely see any salt over Incineroar that doesn't come from me.

Well yeah, this kind of thing is relative to the individual. There's no realistic way of measuring who exactly is generating the most salt. But from my experience it's been Incineroar generally. It started when I watched Vinesauce's(Vinny's) reaction to the direct.

 

[praline]

Huh... Nia has a mii fighter outfit in the base game... but Rex’s you get with the fighter pass? That’s goofy.

 

[Aurane]

This is flat-*** rude and not cool at all. Disliking a subject is all well and good, but actively and visibly demeaning people for it makes you seem entitled and/or petty.

I wasn't demeaning anyone. All I said was that this thread would be better without FEH discussion ever day, and that's my opinion on the matter.

 

[kirbsmash]

I tend to take leaks as just an thought. Dude, Roar's not as hype as say, Shadow. (My heart...)
But I just hate how people take it as real and just being an *** about it.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Crazy True Solo Zeke run done 6 minutes~ first try.

I wouldn't say it's strange since it's Corvin, but those two run show me why I don't like Nia blade all that much.

That being said, time to sleep.

 

[praline]

I definitely don’t like pirahna plant in Smash as everyone knows.

I’m ok with Incineroar... just ok. Would have preferred Buzzwole though.

 

[Deleted member]

I definitely don’t like pirahna plant in Smash as everyone knows.

I’m ok with Incineroar... just ok. Would have preferred Buzzwole though.

Well yeah, Buzzwole is God.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

after looking at more gameplay for Isabelle, I lost my hype for her.

She can frametrap people on the ledge with the fishing pole, idk what you're talking about. That alongside killing Nair and Villager slingshots, she looks hype

 

[Zinith]

And now for something completely different...

Okay, proceed

 

[Metal Shop X]

And now for something completely different...

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Okay, proceed

The Actual Ultimate crossover.

Eat your heart out Ultimate.

 

[mario123007]

Pit: Mr.Sakurai...I don’t feel so good

Mario: It's okay Pit... you'll be fine.... just hang in there buddy...

And also this:

Yeah this ain't it chief.

Between this and the single-player content, I'm feeling my hype levels are lower than before the Direct, and that's not saying much.

She also didn't get any new alts, was really hoping for a Cosmic Spirit alt since they literally have the texture for it on her model.

Rosa:
Lunar landing still in, at least fair, bair, nair
Luma dair way slower
Second hit luma nair doesn't send in front of you
New nair is weird, hard to test too much in FFA/teams, luma nair way less range tho
Luma respawn in 8 seconds
Uair way more ending lag

Trying to get vid

— SefiCompacto (@SefiCompacto) November 2, 2018

I am guessing her red alt costume that resembles her as Fire Rosalina doesn't have pony tail either? I haven't watch any much of her demo gameplay so... hopefully there's footages of that.

 

[Aurane]

She can frametrap people on the ledge with the fishing pole,

What does that mean?

 

[kirbsmash]

She can frametrap people on the ledge with the fishing pole, idk what you're talking about. That alongside killing Nair and Villager slingshots, she looks hype

I just wished that her moves in the air becomes a bit different from Villager. I'll still main but hey, just my thought out there

 

[Metal Shop X]

I just wished that her moves in the air becomes a bit different from Villager. I'll still main but hey, just my thought out there

Her nair seem quit different tho, and it seem pretty good too.


But that fishing pole man....I got to try this out when the game is out.