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I don't think the YouTubing takes up a whole lot of his time. He puts out, like, a 3 minute video twice a week. And has other people doing the editing for him.
I am one such fan. I assume everyone buys all the characters because why wouldn't you? But then I was very surprised to learn there are in fact people who bought the fighters individually and apparently since my math is crap, it supposedly only saves like 6 bucks or something to even go the Pass route. Me I just have to have a full roster.
Because people have to save money somewhere?
It’s $25 per pass… you pay $6 individually every three months minimum. You’re struggling to pay that after buying a $70 game?
Yeah, that's true. I don't know, it seems like if you need to save money the last place you'd scrimp is on the Smash roster. Plus now when you play online everyone is using Joker and you can't use Joker back at them because you don't own him!
It actually gets under my skin seeing someone who plays a fighting game and doesnt have all the DLC characters at the ready. I get that some people just dont do that or dont have the money for it but man does it trigger something in me to see the roster of a game incomplete.
well I think everyone gets bothered by random things.
I get bothered when wrestlers don’t wear knee pads. It just makes it look like they’re in their underwear with exposed knees. How’s that for random? Lol
It's not as simple as "I paid $60 therefore I can pay another $60". Like, there's a massive number of people who never buy any microtransactions in an F2P game despite most of them being way cheaper than a complete SSBU.
I’m one of those people. I played Magic Arena for years and the only money I ever spent on it was the $5 intro pack. I won’t pay for Switch online or Pokemon Home mostly out of principle because they used to be free even though I could afford it. I did eventually buy both Fighter’s Passes but money was part of the reason I held off on the second. I think it’s more because I’m cheap than that I really couldn’t afford to though.
and then incineroar comes along and he’s not even wearing pants
This is such a silly reply that I'm not even sure it's sarcasm but just in case:
I actually think Plant is a really cool and unique Smash character so I’d be glad to see it return. My favorite Mario enemy is a Goomba so I’d rather see that or Goombella but Plant’s cool too.
I'd say a third Fighter Pass has been out of the question for a while now.
Definitely not sarcasm. I feel as if smash "fans" who hold out and don't drop the money on DLC fighters are doing a disservice to Smash. Costumes sure that crap is whatever but the fighters? Jesus why even own the game.
I do it for completion’s sake; and that I was already prepared to buy DLC from the beginning because Smash is my favorite fighting game. I like the look of the complete roster on the selection screen. Neurodivergent bliss.
Really? So, you think folks like Alph, Leaf, and the Koopalings would accompany their base character?
Ultimate is not like that though, they don't even use DLC Mii costumes in spirit fights unless you own them.
Would you prefer SF6 with it's costumes that cost as much as a character?
I’ll do you one better; all of the DLC Mii Costumes from Sm4sh should’ve been in the base game as well, and all of the new DLC Mii Costumes in Ultimate should’ve also come packaged into each Challenger Pack like all of the other content.
Smash is a fighting game, it's inherently on the "you wouldn't leave the game incomplete would you?" track because not only do you have a roster that's incomplete but, as a fighting game, you are required to have all the dlc characters if you want to learn how to fight against those characters, you are required to have them if you have people who routinely come over and want to play those characters.
I would prefer what I said at the end, free. Maybe I’m not seeing the bigger picture or I’m simply not in its target audience. Do they track which costumes sell the best?
I only bought the Travis costume, it was the one costume I felt worth supporting. As for the deluxe ones, I’ll just take my chances online and hope my opponent likes Megalovania.
There are games with over $1000 worth of DLC. They get away with it because...customers aren't supposed to buy every single piece of DLC for a game, no matter how major or minor it is. Even Sakurai himself never said "you MUST buy FP1/2", he said you should only do it if you really, really feel like it.
Reasonable yes. The trend, no. I haven't even looked but I'd have assumed that the majority of DLC purchases were not a la carte but from fighter pass sales. That's not to say the other doesn't exist I just don't understand the logic. Let me explain a bit differently...
I agree, you don't have to buy everything. Costumes tho I also don't feel as if skipping them will have a negative impact on the future of the game, or on my personal enjoyment of the game. The fighters tho? It's a fighting game lol not completing the roster feels legit like you're not entirely a fan of the game, as if by NOT buying a specific character you are actively telling Nintendo you don't appreciate that character, the work negotiating for them, for designing them, etc. great well if you didn't purchase pyra mythra then we can blame you for noa mio missing next game. Thanks. Okay obviously an exaggerated circumstance but that's where my logic is when I consider whether or not Smash DLC fighters should be considered as obligatory for true fans.
Nah this "true fan" bull**** is toxic as hell.
I feel like you’re looking at this the wrong way. I have a couple of friends that just bought the base game and neither pass. They’re just very casual gamers that don’t play very often. Since they don’t play all the time, it doesn’t make much sense to invest a ton more money into it. It’s just something fun to do every once in a while at get togethers. If you just play every now and then, I don’t think it makes a ton of sense to invest a lot into DLC. I try to judge based on how much time I think I’ll put into the game to determine whether DLC is worth it. I play Smash often enough that it is for me.
Look, if the man himself says the passes should be considered optional purchases, I don't know what else to tell you.
This is manic thinking. Why would Nintendo care about the individual customer? There is no concrete way to define, isolate, and categorize your customer as a “true fan”.
Like Money doesn't come from trees.
Being very generous with that pricing after TOTK and the general Switch success.
I genuinely forgot that TotK was $70. I was lucky enough to get that game as a gift. It is a little concerning that we already have a Nintendo game that is, in my opinion, overly derivative of a superior, previous entry while being $10 more expensive.
