If Mewtwo is so popular why haven't we gotten a Mewthree?
Checkmate Mewtwo defenders.
I know it's only a joke, but technically we did get Mega Mewtwo X
and Mega Mewtwo Y, which are kinda like Mewthree and Mewfour.
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I've grown to hate discussing "popularity" as a factor in characters getting in Smash, even outside of Pokémon
In discussing likelihoods, popularity should be considered, as it has been stated many times to be a factor. It's not completely subjective, as you can make some baseline statements like "Krystal is a more popular Smash request than Peppy Hare" or even more meaningful ones like "K. Rool was more popular than Dixie in the ballot days," but when you get to things like "Krystal is a more popular Smash request than Ashley," I agree that it gets pretty difficult to confirm one way or another. But like just about anything else you just do the best you can to assess in spite of the imperfections.
In terms of "wants," yeah, I can see getting tired of popularity. Personally, I support what I support whether or not it happens to be popular, though you have to admit that popularity does feed into things like marketing and iconicness (with PKMN as a particular example of this).
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I wouldn't add Waluigi myself
I was pretty unsure about Waluigi to be fair; he barely made it on the list.
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I’ll admit that I’m biased on the subject but isn’t Gengar really high up there as far as most popular Pokémon go? I thought I remembered it winning some kind of big popularity poll as well at some point.
It was 10th in the big 2020 poll, 2nd for Kanto. Outside of that, its popularity in general has just really taken off in modern times, as has its marketing. Gengar is one of only a few PKMN to receive both Mega and Gigantamax forms (from a quick look, I think the only one besides the Kanto starters). Gengar appears consistently in spinoffs, even in ones like Pokken and Unite which have a more limited roster. It has merchandise, too. In-game it doesn't have a particular standout appearance like Garchomp or Gardevoir do, though it has a strangely high frequency in appearing on gym leader or elite four teams, for whatever that's worth. There's also the whole Lavender Town thing for its evo line I guess. But at this point it has a case as the most iconic gen 1 mon not in Smash outside of, like, Eevee (IMO it passed stuff like Snorlax and Dragonite, more arguably even Gyarados). That's how I look at Gengar.
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One more thing about the 2020 poll: even if you don't fully trust the results, it was an official poll and probably the largest one they've done, at least in recent memory, and so it's likely that the PKMN company, Game Freak, etc. would use the results to determine things like marketing, spinoff apearances, or special roles in the mainline games.
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Yes because if cyl was a factor marth would have been kicked out a long time ago in favor of long time iconic favorites like gatekeeper and veronica.
Using a poll that's heavily centred around a specific subset of a single audience means nothing for the general recognizability of those characters. I might as well dig out that poll that showed TF2 characters as the most-wanted for smash newcomers.
CYL has several quirks and issues, like the oddity of previous winners being removed in the later ones, certain characters doing way better than they would otherwise due to the poll being Heroes-centric, meme choices like Gatekeeper (which happens in just about any poll anyway), and naturally skewing towards the game most recently released at the time of the poll.
But while definitely flawed, I don't find it reduced to worthlessness. Especially the first poll was a decent snapshot of the FE fandom, and I can't recall ever having an actual large, official poll of FE fans prior to that. So not an end-all-be-all or an absolute ranking of characters' popularity, but one more judging tool to take with a grain of salt that we used to not have at all.
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I can't really think of a lot of non-starter, non-mascot Pokémon who've been marketed over the years. There's at least Gardevoir and Garchomp, while Lucario is kind of a pseudo-mascot thanks to being one of Gen 4's "ambassadors".
Well, if there's not that many of them then that just makes it easier to consolidate support for the select few!
There is a decent number, though, including Lucario, Gardevoir, Garchomp, Gengar, Eevee, and more.
Edit: I guess technically Eevee was a starter in Let's Go, but I'll leave it here anyway.