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Next Gen Ideas (Wii've hit 10,000 views, although wii're technically dead)

chubb-o-wub

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There's something you should add to the list. I forgot to mention that Elemur EVOLVES into Elorilla. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
 

mood4food77

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i don't think the ledian evos will work

that's only because it learns those moves already, so if it didn't evolve before, why would it evolve now..., we should make it having those moves by a certain area

same with the masquerain evo, it can have hydo pump already, change it to another move

as for breeding, we should come up with a way to obtain that poke, cause if that poke couldn't breed that poke beforehand, why can it do so now...like with wobbuffet, roselia/roserade, sudowoodo, mr. mime, chansey/blissey, mantine, snorlax, and marill/azumarill, they made it so that when they hold a certain item, you can breed that new poke
 

Terywj [태리]

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i guess that idea would work...

Irobolt
Steel/Electric
Levitate/Heatproof
hp-75
atk-30
def-100
sp atk-110
sp def-100
spd-85
bst-500

physical mp:
tackle
iron tail
thunderpunch
giga impact

special mp:
flash cannon
thunderbolt
thunder
gyro ball
magnet bomb
shock wave
charge beam
water shock
hyper beam

support mp:
substitute
protect
toxic
thunder wave
spikes
stealth rock
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Congragulations, guys. This thread just hit 50 pages. I think a party is in order.

LET'S PARTY!

LOL Random Mario vid.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

MysticKenji

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i don't think the ledian evos will work

that's only because it learns those moves already, so if it didn't evolve before, why would it evolve now..., we should make it having those moves by a certain area

same with the masquerain evo, it can have hydo pump already, change it to another move

Fine

as for breeding, we should come up with a way to obtain that poke, cause if that poke couldn't breed that poke beforehand, why can it do so now...like with wobbuffet, roselia/roserade, sudowoodo, mr. mime, chansey/blissey, mantine, snorlax, and marill/azumarill, they made it so that when they hold a certain item, you can breed that new poke

What of Pichu, and the like?
Irobolt seems like hax. Why aren't Charge Beam and Thunder bolded?
 

mood4food77

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but the difference with pichu was, there was no breeding in RBY, so the addition of breeding allowed nintendo to make new baby pokemon that could breed normally, smoochum, magby, and elekid are of the likes too

but these are baby pokes for previous gen pokes

if you look at pokes who baby forms are later than the 2nd gen, all of them need an item in order to breed that poke

Irobolt's stats seem fine, not broken, he does get owned by ground if he doesn't have levitate, but then he's week to fire and fighting if he does, his defenses aren't insanely high
 

MysticKenji

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but the difference with pichu was, there was no breeding in RBY, so the addition of breeding allowed nintendo to make new baby pokemon that could breed normally, smoochum, magby, and elekid are of the likes too

but these are baby pokes for previous gen pokes

if you look at pokes who baby forms are later than the 2nd gen, all of them need an item in order to breed that poke
All right. So...
We have:
Tornace -> Torkoal (Lava Incense: Boosts Fire moves)
Nosur -> Absol (Dark Incense: Boosts Dark moves)
Cublaikhan -> Kangaskhan (Zhang incense is a cool name, but what does it do?)
Chickory -> Skarmory (Metal Incense: Because Skarm is \m/. Boosts Steel moves)
Slicor -> Scyther (Bug Incense: Boosts Bug moves)
Calfin -> Tauros/Miltank (Milk Incense: Boosts HP-recovery moves)

Any ideas for new Incenses?

EDIT: Slicor can use a Bug Incense and Calfin can use a Milk Incense. Or something.

EDIT2: Thx guys. ^_^
 

IC3R

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Tornace -> Torkoal Wisp Incense

Nosur -> Absol Empty Incense

Cublaikhan -> Kangaskhan Zhang Incense

Chickory -> Skarmory Metal Incense?

I really don't like the names I gave, but it's a start...Maybe it'll jumpstart one of you guys...:confused:
 

mood4food77

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indeed

but they don't have to incense...do they


but now that i realize, all of those pokes breed with incense so....

claw incense for scyther, increases power of all attacks that uses claws

uhhh...scrappy incense, allows all fighting/normal moves to hit ghots (item might be a little broken though...), that's for kangaskahn

smoke incense for torkoal, increases accuracy of fire moves

steel incense, increases power of steel type moves, for skarmory

dark incense for absol, increases power of dark type moves

calfin, milk incense, increases effect of healing items/moves, for tauros/milktank
 

mood4food77

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Gostinja (Evolves from Shedinja when leveled up at night hold a Shadow scarf)
Wonder Gaurd+
1
120
45
70
30
80

346 BST, thanks to health

explanation for Wonder Guard+

Pokemon can only take direct damage from supereffective attacks, cannot be burned or poisoned, and damage from sandstorm/hail is negated, takes no recoil damage
 

IC3R

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Gostinja (Evolves from Shedinja when leveled up at night hold a Shadow scarf)
Wonder Gaurd+
1
120
45
70
30
80

346 BST, thanks to health

explanation for Wonder Guard+

Pokemon can only take direct damage from supereffective attacks, cannot be burned or poisoned, and damage from sandstorm/hail is negated, takes no recoil damage
OU, anyone? (^_^)
 

MysticKenji

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Gostinja (Evolves from Shedinja when leveled up at night hold a Shadow scarf)
Wonder Gaurd+
1
120
45
70
30
80

346 BST, thanks to health

explanation for Wonder Guard+

Pokemon can only take direct damage from supereffective attacks, cannot be burned or poisoned, and damage from sandstorm/hail is negated, takes no recoil damage
D***, son. That's too good.
I think the only thing keeping him from being uber is confusion.
 

mood4food77

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it won't go uber, it's has too many weaknesses and it's stats aren't amazing

it gets ***** by anything that holds a super effective move and is faster than it, which is quite a bit of pokes

it can be counted in today's standard metagame, so it would be OU
 

Conner

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New fossil : first : Mamosu - the mammoth pokemon


Mamosu - Mammoth + aisuxi (icy)
Rock/Ice
ATK - 95
DEF - 70
SP ATK - 50
SP DEF - 70
Speed - 80
Total : 365

it evovles on lv. 35 into Mamojai - the Giant Mammoth Pokemon

Mamojai - Mammoth + jaianto (giant)
Rock/Ice
ATK - 130
DEF - 95
SP ATK - 70
SP DEF - 90
Speed - 105
Total : 490

and also, i have an evolution for the other fossil I came up with : Ankylomet. He evovles on lv. 35 into
Anklogan.

Ankylogan - Ankylosaurus + hagane (steel)
Rock/Steel
ATK - 100
DEF - 115
SP. ATK - 70
SP DEF - 115
Speed - 90
total - 490

There they are.
 

chubb-o-wub

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i don't think the ledian evos will work

that's only because it learns those moves already, so if it didn't evolve before, why would it evolve now..., we should make it having those moves by a certain area

same with the masquerain evo, it can have hydo pump already, change it to another move

as for breeding, we should come up with a way to obtain that poke, cause if that poke couldn't breed that poke beforehand, why can it do so now...like with wobbuffet, roselia/roserade, sudowoodo, mr. mime, chansey/blissey, mantine, snorlax, and marill/azumarill, they made it so that when they hold a certain item, you can breed that new poke
Ledian can not learn Wish or Meteor Mash. Masquerain evolves into Secrizzle when it learns Hydro BOMB, not Hydro PUMP.
 

Metal_man69

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I dont know if its been mentioned yet, but Dugtrio needs an evolution. Ive thought up a name but thats it cause im lazy.

Name: Dethtrio
Type : Ground or maybe Ground/Steel?
Stats: Just up his attack and speed a little?
 

mood4food77

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he doesn't need an evo, he's OU, he counters the crap out of any poke pretty much weak to ground
 

Wii4Mii 99

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he doesn't need an evo, he's OU, he counters the crap out of any poke pretty much weak to ground
No, he counters the crap out of any Pokemon weak to Ground (Earthquake), Dark (Night Slash / Pursuit), and Flying (Aerial Ace).

But I think there should be an evolution between Diglett and Dugtrio. Something like Dugduo.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

ss118

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When does Breloom get an evolution?
It should be faster than Ninjask, Poison Heal should get bumped up to 33.25% recovery each turn, and his HP should be equal to that of Shuckles, along with his defenses.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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When does Breloom get an evolution?
It should be faster than Ninjask, Poison Heal should get bumped up to 33.25% recovery each turn, and his HP should be equal to that of Shuckles, along with his defenses.
1) If it keeps the same Attack stat, the that Breloom evo would probably become Uber.

2) With those Defenses and that low HP, Poison Heal would be useless, even with the 33% healing. This doesn't balance it out, if that's what you're thinking.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

MysticKenji

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No, he counters the crap out of any Pokemon weak to Ground (Earthquake), Dark (Night Slash / Pursuit), and Flying (Aerial Ace).

But I think there should be an evolution between Diglett and Dugtrio. Something like Dugduo.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
How about a Doduo pre-evo? Doduno!
Sure. Stats plz.

When does Breloom get an evolution?
It should be faster than Ninjask, Poison Heal should get bumped up to 33.25% recovery each turn, and his HP should be equal to that of Shuckles, along with his defenses.
I don't think so.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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W4M took me off the Hall of Fame??! Wii aren't friends any more.

Anyways, I gotta read through this thread before I make my comeback.
Well, when you do make that comeback, you'll be back on it.

The stats for Dugduo are the average of Diglett's and Dugtrios.

HP: 23
Atk: 68
Def: 38
SpAtk: 43
SpDef: 58
Spd: 108

BST: 338

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

ss118

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lol dugduo.
but seriously, 50 pages? wtf? you guys have too many ideas. The first post should be an index XD
btw, the reason for the low HP is to abuse Leech Seed
 

IC3R

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I had the hardest time taking that Breloom down; and I don't even remember how I did it...

W3 n3d mo4r 5ta113rZ!!!!1!!!1!!1!1

Idea coming soon...:lol:
 

h2ownage

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So can I still ask a simple question, or has that apsect of the thread died? I want to know if this would work, and I can't play Pokemon at the moment because the cartridge is somewhere at my friend's house.. idiot. (Yes I am aware of the irony of calling him an idiot when I'm about to ask such a question like this:

Sableye
Will o wisp
Fake-out
Protect
Shadow Claw

Could I fake-out and flinch them then Protect and Fake-out again and so on? Would be cool...
 

Wii4Mii 99

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So can I still ask a simple question, or has that apsect of the thread died? I want to know if this would work, and I can't play Pokemon at the moment because the cartridge is somewhere at my friend's house.. idiot. (Yes I am aware of the irony of calling him an idiot when I'm about to ask such a question like this:

Sableye
Will o wisp
Fake-out
Protect
Shadow Claw

Could I fake-out and flinch them then Protect and Fake-out again and so on? Would be cool...
This question should be asked in the Official Q & A thread, but I'll answer this anyways. Fake Out only works on the first turn Sableye is out. However, you can Fake Out, switch Sableye, then bring it back in and Fake Out again.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Terywj [태리]

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Gruntant
Grass/Steel?
Ability: Breakdown* (recovers HP when afflicted w/status condition, gets rid of it)
*Gruntant only ability
hp-50
atk-100
def-110
sp atk-30
sp def-120
spd-80
bst-490
---To list the movepools in short: Subtitute+Leech Seed+Protect+Leaf Blade=Best attacks
 
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