Next Gen Ideas (Wii've hit 10,000 views, although wii're technically dead)

[MysticKenji]

Done. what do we do about tornace and torkano?

Tornace -> Torkoal @ ???
Torakoal -> Torkano @ Lv. up in Magma Cavern

 

[Conner]

Who else thinks we need a Lapras evolution , I know i do.

 

[chubb-o-wub]

Tornace evolves into Torkoal after learning Smoke Veil (which should be around lvl 30 or so)

 

[MysticKenji]

@ Chubb-o-wub

Ok thanks.

@ Conner

Sure

(name)
Water/Psychic
Ability: Water Absorb/Shell Armor
HP: 150
Attack: 30
Defense: 110
Sp. Attack: 130
Sp. Defense: 110
Speed: 60
Total: 590

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Lapras-->Laprince? (actually there are female laprases so i dunno...)

 

[MysticKenji]

I don't think that would work...

What's Lapras' name based off of?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I don't think that would work...

What's Lapras' name based off of?

actually i have no idea...i just made laprince off the top of my head.

 

[Conner]

On wikipedia it says the Lap comes from Lapis , a stone , and Loch Ness Monster or some French dude's name i think. but i got names : for the Water/Psychic one - Lapsyik = Lapis + Psychic , just spelled differntly, and for those of you who want to keep its traditional type (Me), I came up with Lapozen
(I like this name better) = Lapis + Frozen. I like both ideas.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

On wikipedia it says the Lap comes from Lapis , a stone , and Loch Ness Monster or some French dude's name i think. but i got names : for the Water/Psychic one - Lapsyik = Lapis + Psychic , just spelled differntly, and for those of you who want to keep its traditional type (Me), I came up with Lapozen
(I like this name better) = Lapis + Frozen. I like both ideas.

good ideas. i'd prefer lapsyik over lapozen...anyone else think so?

 

[mood4food77]

keep it the same type, usually dual types don't change upon evo, they usually gain a type, there are a few exceptions though, like spinerak and swablu


baby kangaskan time

Kidskahn
Normal
Scrappy/Early Bird
80
70
30
70
30
60

340 BST

now you're probably wondering why it has a higher attack stat than kangaskahn did by a significant amount, well here's why

Manaskahn
Normal
Scrappy/Early Bird
105
40
80
95
80
90

basically just the special sweeper of kangaskahn

and kidskahn evolves by happiness depending on gender

 

[MysticKenji]

Neither are that good...

Hm...

Lapiloch?
Lapisness?

Any more ideas?

EDIT: Kangaskhan already has a baby. You snooze, you lose.

 

[chubb-o-wub]

keep it the same type, usually dual types don't change upon evo, they usually gain a type, there are a few exceptions though, like spinerak and swablu


baby kangaskan time

Kidskahn
Normal
Scrappy/Early Bird
80
70
30
70
30
60

340 BST

now you're probably wondering why it has a higher attack stat than kangaskahn did by a significant amount, well here's why

Manaskahn
Normal
Scrappy/Early Bird
105
40
80
95
80
90

basically just the special sweeper of kangaskahn

and kidskahn evolves by happiness depending on gender

Ever heard of Cublaikhan?

And a Venomoth evo

Venyphsy (evolves from Venomoth by lvl up w/Dust Scatter*)
Shield Dust/Tinted Lens
Bug/Poison
HP - 85
Att - 80
Def - 75
Spatk - 117
Spdef - 90
Spd - 118
Total - 565

Moves it can learn as Venyphsy that it couldn't learn as Venomoth
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
Thunderbolt
Black Plague*
Psycho Shift
Spore

This makes a Venomoth worth catching.
* - will be explained in New Attacks/Abilities Thread

 

[MysticKenji]

Venyphsy... Odd name, but I like it. APPROVED.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Primeape evo

Monrage (Monkey+Rage)
Fighting/Dark
Ability: Vital Spirit/Anger Point
Hp-85
Atk-120
Def-75
Sp Atk-75
Sp Def-80
Spd-110
BST-545
*Evolves with trade evolution while holding Pure Belt*
**Pure Belt** Boosts fighting attacks and physical attacks slightly

Physical movepool
Seismic Toss
Karate Chop
Smash Kick
Cross Chop
Assurance
Close Combat
Punishment
Focus Punch
Stone Edge
U-turn
Poison Jab
Knockout
Earthquake

Special movepool
Thunderbolt
Overheat
Focus Blast

Support movepool
Swagger
Bulk Up
Focus Energy
Substitute

 

[MysticKenji]

I don't think Monrage should be Fight/Dark...

EDIT: NVM it's okay.

 

[chubb-o-wub]

Primeape evo

Monrage (Monkey+Rage)
Fighting/Dark
Ability: Vital Spirit/Anger Point
Hp-85
Atk-120
Def-75
Sp Atk-75
Sp Def-80
Spd-110
BST-545
*Evolves with trade evolution while holding Pure Belt*
**Pure Belt** Boosts fighting attacks and physical attacks slightly

Physical movepool
Seismic Toss
Karate Chop
Smash Kick
Cross Chop
Assurance
Close Combat
Punishment
Focus Punch
Stone Edge
U-turn
Poison Jab
Knockout
Earthquake

Special movepool
Thunderbolt
Overheat
Focus Blast

Support movepool
Swagger
Bulk Up
Focus Energy
Substitute

Nice, but does it learn any useable Dark Moves like Night Slash or something?

 

[mood4food77]

i forgot about the baby kangaskahn, and i also attempted a male kangaskahn

well, i was thinking about it

what if the light type cancelled out all of psychic's weaknesses and vice versa, like ghost and dark do, so we could have an opposite of spiritomb

like it's immune to dark and resists ghost and bug, then make it resist fire and electric on top of that

now we have the opposite of spiritomb

angelicomb
Psychic/Light
Pressure
50
108
92
108
92
35

485 BST, same as spiritomb, but the complete opposite with the same ability

 

[MysticKenji]

We don't have a Light-type.

 

[chubb-o-wub]

i forgot about the baby kangaskahn, and i also attempted a male kangaskahn

well, i was thinking about it

what if the light type cancelled out all of psychic's weaknesses and vice versa, like ghost and dark do, so we could have an opposite of spiritomb

like it's immune to dark and resists ghost and bug, then make it resist fire and electric on top of that

now we have the opposite of spiritomb

angelicomb
Psychic/Light
Pressure
50
108
92
108
92
35

485 BST, same as spiritomb, but the complete opposite with the same ability

No, it should be Ghost/Normal

 

[ss118]

I can't wait for a Ghost Normal type!
It'll force PorygonZ's to use Boltbeam again
also, and Ice/ Electric type could be intresting
and no, I didnt read any previous pages of this topic

 

[MysticKenji]

M4F should revive Frostic (Ice/Elec type) and Creesper (Ghost/Normal type)

ss118 should read at least the most recent pages.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Nice, but does it learn any useable Dark Moves like Night Slash or something?

Monrage learns Assurance and Punishment via level up.
Maybe add Night Slash as a new egg move for Mankey.

 

[mood4food77]

well, i really don't wanna search through all these pages for creesper

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

I can't wait for a Ghost Normal type!
It'll force PorygonZ's to use Boltbeam again
also, and Ice/ Electric type could be intresting
and no, I didnt read any previous pages of this topic

Not to get off topic, but most Porygon-Z carry Dark Pulse.

Man, you guys LOVE this thread.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

i made an ice electric type too...i made so many weird comboes before but NO ONE TOOK RECOGNITION FOR THEM

 

[chubb-o-wub]

I thought of a lot of new evos that are really needed.

Cherree (evolves from Cherrim by lvl up w/Solar Flare*)
Flower Gift
Grass/Fire
HP - 80
Att - 48
Def - 78
Spatk - 128
Spdef - 78
Spd - 128
Total - 540

Cumulift (evolves from Drifblim by lvl up w/ Eerie Gale*)
Unburden/Aftermath
Ghost/Flying
HP - 165
Att - 80
Def - 45
Spatk - 115
Spdef - 55
Spd - 90
Total - 540

Ledisect (evolves from female Ledian by lvl up w/Wish)
Swarm/Early Bird
Bug/Flying
HP - 80
Att - 55
Def - 75
Spatk - 95
Spdef - 130
Spd - 100
Total - 535

Masculain (evolves from male Ledian by lvl up w/Meteor Mash)
Swarm/Early Bird
Bug/Dark
HP - 95
Att - 115
Def - 75
Spatk - 55
Spdef - 95
Spd - 100
Total - 535

Secrizzle (evolves from Masquerain by lvl up w/ Hydro Bomb*)
Intimidate
Bug/Flying
HP - 101
Att - 70
Def - 72
Spatk - 120
Spdef - 102
Spd - 70
Total - 535

Depthunder (evolves from Lanturn by lvl up w/ Thunder Strike*)
Illuminate/Volt Absorb
Water/Electric
HP - 140
Att - 70
Def - 70
Spatk - 110
Spdef - 90
Spd - 80
Total - 540

Sandstrike (evolves from Sandslash by lvl up w/ Needle Spine*)
Sand Veil/Solid Rock
Ground
HP - 95
Att - 110
Def - 125
Spatk - 50
Spdef - 80
Spd - 85
Total - 545

Who like these?
* - will be explained where it's supposed to be

 

[MysticKenji]

What is Unberben???

 

[chubb-o-wub]

What is Unberben???

Sorry, I meant Unburden.

 

[mood4food77]

well, here comes another idea

Filinook
Steel/Poison
Levitate
50
25
70
25
70
25

265 BST...

evolves at level 18 into

Filicrani
Steel/Poison
Levitate
70
30
90
30
90
30

340 BST

Evolves at level 36 into...

Filihol
Steel/Poison
Levitate
100
60
110
60
110
70

510 BST, now being steel/poison with levitate, it's only weak to fire, resists everything not mentioned, neutral to water and electric, and is immune to poison and ground

 

[MysticKenji]

What are those three suppsoed to be, M4F?

 

[Conner]

I got an idea for an Absol evolution : ZAISOL! Here it is :

Zaisol = fuzai (absence) + sol (light)
Dark/????
ATK - 110
DEF - 90
SP ATK - 80
SP DEF - 90
Speed - 100
Total - 470

instead of White fur with a black face , his fur's black with a white face and he's bigger and more
menacing.

 

[mood4food77]

dunno, still thinking about it

got any suggestions

possibly evil flying snake thing

or a floating poison box (which works with the names)

 

[chubb-o-wub]

Changed Cherree's typing to Grass/Fire. We need moar phire!

 

[mood4food77]

more fire you say

Frittle
Fire/Ice
Drought/Snow Warning
65
50
120
120
80
100

535 BST, fire/ice is an odd combo indeed

dunno what it's gonna be

 

[MysticKenji]

Zaisol can be just Dark

Solatu (Sol + Xatu)
Psychic/Flying
Ability: Early Bird/Synchronize
HP: 80
Attack: 60
Defense: 100
Sp. Attack: 110
Sp. Defense: 100
Speed: 110
Total: 560

EDIT: ANOTHER Fire/Ice???

 

[chubb-o-wub]

more fire you say

Frittle
Fire/Ice
Drought/Snow Warning
65
50
120
120
80
100

535 BST, fire/ice is an odd combo indeed

dunno what it's gonna be

This thing would get ***** by Tyranitar. And there's moar phire to come!

Lizagma
Fire
Sootstream
HP - 160
Att -40
Def - 40
Spatk - 140
Spdef - 140
Spd - 10
Total - 530

Then there's this to **** Tyranitar and every physical sweeper, as well as giving Blissey a well-deserved run for her money

 

[MysticKenji]

Dolphos
Water
Ability: Swift Swim/Streamline
HP: 59
Attack: 70
Defense: 60
Sp. Attack: 120
Sp. Defense: 60
Speed: 96
Total: 435

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Dolphos evo?

Dolfin
Water
Ability: Swift Swim/Streamline
hp-70
atk-85
def-70
sp atk-135
sp def-70
spd-110
bst-540
*Evolves from Dolhos at lv.34*

 

[Terywj [태리]]

EDIT: I hate lags

Golmag
Fire/Rock
Ability: Rock Head/Flame Body
hp-70
atk-95
def-95
sp atk-25
sp def-80
spd-50
bst-415

 

[mood4food77]

wow, first average poke made...should evolve into something