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Newcomer: Yoshimitsu!

Stryks

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Man im gone for a week an there's already a new thread *sigh*, ok well Yoshimitsu is my fav. character in tekken but there are better candidates if a namco character IS gonna be in brawl, like pacman, nightmare and others, so i gotta say no XD...
 

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Moonsault slayer really gains no height. And besides, Deathcopter seems so perfect for ^B. I was going to make stone backhands his Ftilt (and you can continue it by pressing A repeatedly.)

The reason I chose to talk about Yoshimitsu, as opposed to Mitsirugi or any others, is because Yoshimitsu seems to be a favorite of Namco. As I said before, He's even been important enough to jump franchises. And if Namco really did submit Yoshimitsu to nintendo, I doubt they'd turn him away just because they already have Yoshi.

I'm not saying he's likely. Pacman is probably 5x more liklely to get in than Yoshimitsu. I'm simply saying he'd be very interesting.

And like I said, Ivy in SC2 is a slutty character, unless they give her the british costume, which looks like crap. Yoshimitsu has WAY more interesting moves than anyone else in the game. Period.
 

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And like I said, Ivy in SC2 is a slutty character, unless they give her the british costume, which looks like crap. Yoshimitsu has WAY more interesting moves than anyone else in the game. Period.
wow sounds like you realy know the game [sarcastic/]
 

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There are better characters than him... I'd rather see astarath this game needs more giants in the Bowser section.
 

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instead of yoshimitsu i'd take some1 else out of the soul calibur game like mitsurugi. i think someone like yoshimitsu though would look kinda dumb the way super smashbros makes the chars look... not that there's anything wrong with it.
 

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He is my favorite character in Tekken and Soul Calibur so he could work in brawl but Im not sure. He already has a moveset but i dont know. If he is I would rather they use his Tekken costume.
 

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He is my favorite in Tekken although Beak is my best character, but they screwed him up in th Soul caliber series. I also think he wouldn't fit in Brawl, so no.
 

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im sorry would a mod please check this out for once? I seriously believe that Zombie and Dweller are the same person. Or Psychicly connected twins that always opost together, but I think the first one is more likely :D
 

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hmmm.... i wouldnt mind seeing yoshi in brawl... maybe he should do that attack where he stabs himself in the stomach and starts spinning around. lol that one cracks me up. if not yoshi maybe raphael because he was links destined match in SC2... although he was in for the other versions to.
 

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Yes! Yoshimitsu's AWESOME!

I've made some adjustments to Eaode's depiction of Yoshimitsu, made him more
Tekken-like, with more signature moves.

Yoshimitsu is a moderately heavy Samurai Brawler,
with moderatly high floaty jumps, but slow horizontal speed during them.
He is a slowfaller, with not much horizontal manouverability in the air.
He can walljump. Average-fast run speed, like Roy.
He runs with his sword out, like most samurai, though the sword isn't damaging while he runs.

Ok, I wanna make some changes to your moveset

A: Like Marths, only a more horizontal strike.
Loops after 2 hits from different directions.

Ftilt: Kick, (Which was "forward+circle" on Tekken) can be done 3 times before it loops.
Utilt: Same as C. Falcons, but lower damage, higher knockback.
Dtilt: Low stab with sword, like Marth's. Has the same stun but less knockback than Fox's shine.

Dash A: "Slap u silly" He spins around with his hand out, and slaps anyone he hits. Similar to Luigi's dash A,
But it will have a distinctive look like it did in Tekken.

Fsmash: Like Marth's, but from below (Instead of from above), it cuts up. 45 degree angle.
Knockback similar to Link's UpB on land. 16% Uncharged, raises to 25% when fully charged.
Usmash: Slashes above his head, in the opposite direction to marth's Utilt.
Knockback similar to Marth's Uptilt, 13% Uncharged, 22% fully.
Dsmash: My favourite kick: His roundhouse ("Neutral X" in Tekken) He holds his leg out,
and Spins around once! Simple as! I loved the clean FX and instant power of that move.
It had a brilliant sound. 14% Uncharged, 24% when fully charged. Backwards Knockback
like Peach's downsmash. The Kick is less 5% less powerful by the time is reaches behind him,
so some direction is necessary. Knockback only goes down slightly.

Nair: Generic Float kick yey.
Uair: Like link's Uair, But Sends people horizontally.
Fair: Single swipe forward. For some reason has backwards knockback. Weak.
(I want yoshimitsu to need to be mastered, like I mastered him in Tekken.
Needs lots of weird hitboxes) You can do 2 of these in a Yoshimitsu Fulljump.
Bair: Like Captain Falcon's Bair: A quick punch backwards.
Dair: Does a quick flip, with sword out. The sword is only out while he is facing downwards. He can do this twice in a fulljump, But has horrendous lag if you land during one. It barely
spikes, and has virtually nonexistant knockback. An easy 7% damage.

B: Sword Impale: When you begin to hold it, Yoshimitsu wind slowly pull his sword back, and the sword will glow. Charge up time is a little longer than Gannondorf's Utilt. When thecharge is done, Yoshimitsu will swiftly stab the blade forward, delivering 25-35% and alot of knockback. There are also several other options you have. If you release B and Press A quickly whille charging, Yoshimitu will spin the blade in front of him for two seconds, this will knock opponents away a little, and act as a defensive move. If you Release B and quickly press B again before the charge is done, Yoshimitsu will spin the blade once and whack the person in front of him with it. These moves however can only be done once the charge is halfway through. And if you release the B button before it is halfway though, you will still do the animation until it is halfway done. Then he will bring his sword back to normal postion. If you press side B after the anim is halfway done, he will break into a side B.

->B: Sword spin shield: Yoshi will spin his sword in front of him for a brief period of time, and it will reflect items and damage the enemy with quick trapper hits. 8% Max damage from this. Good as a surprise attack, with not much starting lag, but laughable ending lag. The last hit will have knockback equal to Falco's F-tilt.

^B: DeathCopter: Yoshimitsu will begin to spin his sword very quickly in a circle above his head, pulling himself upward at a mid-slow speed. This would hit all opponents above him with a disjointed hitbox (anti-edge guard, yay). vertical distance covered is a little less than Falco's ^B, and horizontal distance posible is a little less than DK. You are able to control his trajectory while flying. At the end of his flight, he will simply fall. But if you press vB while he is flying, he will fall quickly to the ground, sword extended slightly, and hit opponents in front of him (This would be a meteor smash). If you Press Back-B while he is flying, he will gain a small extra boost, turn around, and come down with the attack facing the other direction. When done on land, the sword will be spun above his head and he won't come off the ground, it will damage like Mewtwo's upSmash, but it does 19% maximum (if all hits hit) and has little knockback on any of the hits. Bad ending lag as well.

vB: Flea/Meditate: Upon pressing vB, Yoshimitsu will balance on his sword. If you double tap left or right on the control pad, he will dash three times in the specified direction, giving minimal damage and knockack. You can jump (but not as high as one fulljump) while in the Flea stance, and whoever you land on will be hit by the sword and the damage will be equal to the height you landed on the person from. Pressing down would cancel the flea stance. If you press vB again while in the Flea stance, you will sit in the meditation stance, where Yoshimitsu will meditate and heal about 1% damage every seconds. Pressing left or right during this will cause yoshimitsu to dive into an extended roll (Akin to the teleport from Tekken), pressing B or Side B would lead to a Kangaroo Kick (A kick upwards on his back (With upwards knockback, and 12% damage)). Being hit by any attack (other than fox's blaster (which would indeeed be a good counter for this move)) will cancel the meditation.

You can do the flea from the air, to take advantage of the distance = damage formula.

Edit: You have no Idea how long it took to make that post readable.
 

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SSj4, I love the >B, I really didn't know what to do with that, so I made it the shark attack blow (one of my favorite moves), but that is much better. I think his aerials should be different, but I have no ideas regarding those >_>
 

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Look I have nothing against yoshimitsu, hes my fav. in tekken (tough i did get my *** kicked by saber yesterday with his yoshimitsu in sc...), but there are way better candidates like megaman, sonic, hell even rayman seems more possible than yoshimitsu... sorry guys but thats my opinion...
 

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that's not your opinion, its fact. Yoshimitsu is very unlikely. This thread is about discussing his potential awesome-ness, If by some magical chance he is in brawl
 

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well yoshimitsu was in a nintendo game with link in it. he is pretty popular and he would advertise the game for PS players.
True he was in SC along with Link, but Nightmare, cervantes and others deserve that shot WAY more than yoshimitsu... Still he rox in tekken...
 

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Yes, but characters like Nightmare and Cervantes haven't got as much POPULARITY
as Yoshimitsu or Snake, who've made appearances in more than one series
(Ape Escape (Snake), Tekken (Yoshimitsu)).

I would much rather have Yoshimitsu over Nightmare and Cervantes, because
though they have original appearances, Yoshimitsu is the only one of them that
has obscure, original moves.

Stryks said:
...but Nightmare, cervantes and others deserve that shot WAY more than yoshimitsu... Still he rox in tekken...
Wait... what? Explain your logic. WHY do they deserve a shot WAY more than
Yoshimitsu? I don't get it! Explain!
 

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Yes, but characters like Nightmare and Cervantes haven't got as much POPULARITY
as Yoshimitsu or Snake, who've made appearances in more than one series
(Ape Escape (Snake), Tekken (Yoshimitsu)).

I would much rather have Yoshimitsu over Nightmare and Cervantes, because
though they have original appearances, Yoshimitsu is the only one of them that
has obscure, original moves.



Wait... what? Explain your logic. WHY do they deserve a shot WAY more than
Yoshimitsu? I don't get it! Explain!
Yoshimitsu is just some samurai... dont know if hes a person or some kind of a giant doll (in SC) or something point is... Nightmare and cervantes are way better fighters, cervantes has:

the profile: He killed all of his crew when he went crazy for soul edge, his ageing has stop and hes obssesed in getting soul edge, an unstoppable zombie if u will...
The attacks: Geo da ray, dash flare, prate's tactics, and so many more, hes freakin awesome!
the attitude: a zombie pirate that kills people to keep their souls? whats cooler than that?!

Nightmare:
Profile: Probably the most famous of the SC series, in other to save his dad, he went after soul edge, then the sword took over his body and now, the guy named sigfried, was transformed into the mighty Nightmare, cmon thats just plain awesome!
attacks: his most powerful move is the Earth divide, also he has a gigantic sword (a sweindher: two-handed sword, think i spelled it right) and has incredible power, slow speed, and good defense
attitude: the guy is a complete BADASS!, he has the power, he provoques fear in others, hes the man, also hes the main bad guy in SC3 (or so i heard)

like I said many times before, i got nothing agains yoshimitsu, but there are more recognizable fighters in the SC series...
 

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Yoshimitsu is just some samurai... dont know if hes a person or some kind of a giant doll (in SC) or something point is... Nightmare and cervantes are way better fighters, cervantes has:

the profile: He killed all of his crew when he went crazy for soul edge, his ageing has stop and hes obssesed in getting soul edge, an unstoppable zombie if u will...
The attacks: Geo da ray, dash flare, prate's tactics, and so many more, hes freakin awesome!
the attitude: a zombie pirate that kills people to keep their souls? whats cooler than that?!

Nightmare:
Profile: Probably the most famous of the SC series, in other to save his dad, he went after soul edge, then the sword took over his body and now, the guy named sigfried, was transformed into the mighty Nightmare, cmon thats just plain awesome!
attacks: his most powerful move is the Earth divide, also he has a gigantic sword (a sweindher: two-handed sword, think i spelled it right) and has incredible power, slow speed, and good defense
attitude: the guy is a complete BADASS!, he has the power, he provoques fear in others, hes the man, also hes the main bad guy in SC3 (or so i heard)

like I said many times before, i got nothing agains yoshimitsu, but there are more recognizable fighters in the SC series...
Add*:
For those who Have SCII
Moveset For Cervantes de Leon:

A: Swing
A, A : Soul swing
Fsmash: Night Raid
DSmash: High tide Anchoring
Usmash: Canonball Lifter (Can be followed by Shadow Flare)
Ftilt: Sail Nautilus (Just the first part)
Dtilt: low slash (any random slash downwards)
Utilt: Head scratch Kick
B: "Gun Shot" or "Pirates tactics"
^B: Shadow Flare
DownB: Killer X
*EDIT* >B: Geo Da Ray
Grab TNeutral: Sadistic Cross
Grab TFront: Storm Generate
Grab TBack: throws back and Shoots gun
Grab TUp: Surging Current

If you have SCII look them up, cause i dont have time to explain what they do..
 

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EDIT: You added smashes.

Yeah, Cervantes is a Zombie Pirate, and Yoshimitsu's just "some samurai",
but while Cervantes has Average (but cool looking) moves that would be straightforward
and easy to understand, Yoshimitsu has weird moves that take time and Practise to master.
 

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That was pointless. :laugh:

Anyway, Yoshimitsu for brawl!

Anyone who disagrees, say now, 'cos Yoshimitsu's been in more games
than the rest of the Soul Calibur cast. 6 (soon to be 7) tekken games, AND 3 Soul Caliburs.
 

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That was pointless. :laugh:

Anyway, Yoshimitsu for brawl!

Anyone who disagrees, say now, 'cos Yoshimitsu's been in more games
than the rest of the Soul Calibur cast. 6 (soon to be 7) tekken games, AND 3 Soul Caliburs. Soon to be 4
...well the point is that they have to be in a nintendo game..so Yoshi:1, Cervy:1, Knight:1
 

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Flamestar, that was stupid. No lie, that was a ******** post.

Flamestar666 said:
if they add yoshimitsu, then they better add paul pheonix and heihachi
http://www.insertcredit.com/news/042003/heihachi.jpg
heihachi looks like a rapest, no?
No, because Paul is Exclusive to the Tekken-verse, and Heihachi is too **** average.

No, Heihachi does not look like a "rapest", and I think the word you're looking for is "rapist".

Also, Heihachi isn't as popular as anyone else from Soul Calibur/Tekken.

ALSO: Sakurai himself stated 1-2 Non-Nintendo characters, so pushing for MORE THAN ONE tekken character is just plain bull****.

Also, technically, you just suggested 3 characters, which makes the 3 non-nintendo characters Yoshimi, Paul and Heihachi. They'd have to remove Snake. WTF.
 

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Yoshimitsu, huh.

I don't think Nintendo or "the studio" would choose him. Even though he was on the GameCube for Soul Calibur II, but the character will probably not make it. Probably because they think he is too unnoticeable for the young gamers. And besides, people will fuss over at why Nintendo chosed that design, because he has multiple designs and some gamers will not like what they picked for it.

Because Yoshimitsu is a samurai-esque character. He was added on SC2 because he held a sword. He was the only TEKKEN fighter (so far) to have held a sword in a fighting game *what a weapon-user! lol* And he is probably the only TEKKEN character to appear in the GameCube.

You do know that Nobuyuki Hiyama did the voice acting for Yoshimitsu in the japanese voices in Soul Calibur II

At least, Eaode, is thinking differently.
 

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Flamestar, that was stupid. No lie, that was a ******** post.



No, because Paul is Exclusive to the Tekken-verse, and Heihachi is too **** average.

No, Heihachi does not look like a "rapest", and I think the word you're looking for is "rapist".

Also, Heihachi isn't as popular as anyone else from Soul Calibur/Tekken.

ALSO: Sakurai himself stated 1-2 Non-Nintendo characters, so pushing for MORE THAN ONE tekken character is just plain bull****.

Also, technically, you just suggested 3 characters, which makes the 3 non-nintendo characters Yoshimi, Paul and Heihachi. They'd have to remove Snake. WTF.
Whoa, you took what Flamestar said way too seriously. Besides, even asking for one Tekken character is a lot, due to reasons that Daisythirdeyew33 said.
 
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