New marth room overlord

[B-Will]

Hi everyone. If you haven't noticed already, I am the new mod for this room.

Just a couple of things:

1st - Please search for topics before creating a new one. Because this game has been out for 5 years, please don't ask questions like "How do I double fair" because chances are, that topic has already been made.

2nd - Let's keep this room for tactical questions and comments only. So far, you guys have been surprisingly good about it. I also mod the falco room and I get threads like "Which color is the best on falco" or "Who's better, bombsoldier or pc chris."


Anyways, if you have any comments or concerns, or having anything suggestions for this room, let me know in this thread!

 

[AS Money]

trust me you missed the "ken play like this" or "is ken really that good" or "azen is now better" threads they were great

 

[marthbeatsroy]

marth room overlord? lol

 

[pdk]

you just don't want to admit that black marth is where it's at, face the music

 

[B-Will]

Oh, I'm more than sure that there were threads about ken or azen. Luckily, those were before my time.

And yes, I agree, black marth is where it is at. That is the only color I really use.

 

[nealdt]

You totally stole my thread idea .

 

[B-Will]

You totally stole my thread idea .

haha, yes and no nealdt. I was already planning on creating a thread like this before I saw yours. I did, however, steal the "overlord" idea.

Anyways, I'm going to update the first post on things I would like to see done in this room. Again, any suggestions are welcome.

 

[Schweppes]

Something needs to be done with the player finder.

 

[flaco]

marth room overlord? lol

Don't make fun of b-will or you forgot he is a mod?

 

[B-Will]

Thanks, Flaco, but I think he was more laughing about the fact that I used the word "overlord."

Anyways, what needs to be done with the player finder? Any suggestions?

 

[flaco]

make a new one or please keep it up to date

 

[B-Will]

Alright, ZMan's last update to the marth player finder was sometime in July meaning we do need a new person to keep maintaining the thread constantly. So...

Any takers? Keep in mind we will need you to somewhat keep a close watch on the thread and update it somewhat regularly.

Post here if you are up to the responsibility. Once I make my choice I will either give thread rights to that person or have him/her create a whole new thread and copying existing information to it.

 

[flaco]

I will take the responsibility b will although am a marth player lol

 

[Mic_128]

Spawn more overlords!

 

[flaco]

Do you want me to start a new player finder and also um I know am off topic but Mic could you please stick my guide some users like it.

 

[marthbeatsroy]

I would apply if I could, but I'm guessing since I'm a smash noob that's out of my league

 

[flaco]

any member could have the responsibility if they know what there doing remember everyone was noob on the beginning.

 

[Schweppes]

I'll update teh player finder. >_>

Zman's format is pretty lame though. It's a MARTH player finder, why do you have to include the characters you play?

 

[B-Will]

Alright Schwepps, the job is yours.

Virgilijus, Flaco, both good candidates but I thought it would be fair to give the job to the person who suggested the idea of updating the player finder, which was Schwepps.

Schweeps, you are going to have to create a whole new thread and then I'll sticky it. I was hoping to be able to give you thread rights to the other thread, but I'm not able to because you joined so late. Don't ask why that is.

Now that that's taken care of, any other changes need to be done to this room?

 

[Virgilijus]

I would say sticky Flaco's Marth Guide so new people (hopefully) won't start unnecessary Marth technique and strategy threads.

Also, I would sticky this thread:http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=89158
just so there is a good Marth video library that is easily accessible.

 

[B-Will]

The video thread is now stickied. I kind of forgot about that thread. Very nice thread.

Also, I was going to wait for Flaco to improve his guide a little bit before I stickied it but I may go ahead and do it anyways.

Any other suggestions?

 

[flaco]

If you decide to stick it thanks b-will yes a good guide for marth players.

 

[Tyson651]

Spawn more overlords!

i was exactly thinking the same thing :S

when i saw the thread name, i thought about starcraft, and i thought it would be some joke about marth with starcraft in some wierd fantasy way.

cause i read it really fast and all i read was "marth overlord"

 

[Tichinde925]

Shouldnt the player finder be alphabetized?

 

[Schweppes]

Shouldnt the player finder be alphabetized?

>_>

If you're searching for a certain player, just CTRL+F it. >_>

 

[flaco]

thanks man that would help alot to search for other members

 

[B-Will]

Alright, so if you haven't already found out, there was a little problem with flaco's player guide. See his thread for more details.

As a result, we still need an updated marth guide. Any takers?

As I said in the other thread, there is an incentive for doing this. Uncle Kenny is currently woking on an "official everything thread" in the MD room. When it is a finished product, it's going to look very nice; it already does in its incomplete state.

However, he is missing some guides and other pieces to his thread, one being an updated marth guide. He's is currently offereing premuim membership to anyone who is willing to work on an updated marth guide, or any of his missing guides for that matter.

I'm considering doing it but as a last resort - I have a lot of stuff going on as it is. Anyone willing to take on this project?

EDIT: You know what, shadydentist, that is a great idea. Each of us can do one part of the guide then combine it into one. However, doing it this way prevents one to get a premium membership but it would make it a lot easier.

 

[shadydentist]

A full-on marth guide is probably asking a little much, but I would be willing to do a write-up on his moves.

Although I don't have access to frame data.

Qualifications:
I'm not very good. But at least I think I have a pretty good grasp of Marth's metagame.

 

[Virgilijus]

Hey B-Will; I can cover certain parts of the guide, but all of it would be a little much. If you do end up breaking it into sections, just give me which part you want me to do.

 

[Shotogon]

I... might be able to help. I mean, I'm not all that great and get ***** by my friends, but I know a couple things. Maybe I might be able to help. Btw: A bit off subject, but what was flaco's punishment? I'm just a bit curious. Anyways, I don't know too much, but I'll try and help.

 

[Schweppes]

I think writing in sections is definitely the best idea. Maybe no one will get premium membership, but they're just forums, after all...

I call the chaingrabbing section. >_>'

 

[Tichinde925]

I call the Upsmash to Fsmash section

And the "Many ways to suicide spike" section

 

[B-Will]

I suppose it's time to get this thing started. Using Crater12's outdated guide as a guideline (or rather gamefaq's outdated guide), I'm going to go ahead and copy and paste the table of contents listed at the top.

1. Version History
2. Introduction [INT]
3. Pros and Cons [PAC] - ShadyDentist
4. Miscellaneous techniques and info [MTI]
5. Move list [ML]
a. A moves [A] - Virgilijus
b. Smashes - Tichinde
c. Aerials [AR] - Virgilijus
d. B moves - B-Will
e. Throws [T] - Schwepps?
f. Other [O]
6. Stadium [STA]
a. Home Run Contest [HRC]
b. Break the Targets [BTT]
7. Combos [COM]
8. Situations [SIT]
9. Stages [STA]
10. Tactics [TAC]
11. Marth: Tactics and Tricks [MTT]
12. Counter Characters [CC]
13. Credits and Disclaimer [CD] - B-Will
14. Chaingrabbing Section - Schweeps
15. Suicide Spiking - Tichinde
Red Indicates a new additon to the list.

From these, we cross out version history, introduction, and credits and disclaimer for now. Counter characters are something that all of us should work on together so we can cross that out too.

Miscellaneous techniques and info...someone can just copy and paste from AlphaZealot's list of advanced techniques any relevent information that pertains to marth (e.g. obviously, we wouldn't include peach bombing or super wavedash in this guide). I'm going to, of course, first ask AZ for his permission before doing this, and credit the resulting information to him.

I'm not sure about splitting up tactics and tricks from the miscellaneous techniques and info section....they seem pretty similar to one another any thoughts? Same with the "tactic" and "marth: Tactics and Tricks" section; they seem to similar to one another.

Alright that leaves several remaining sections that need to be done from the above list.
So far we have:

Schweeps - for the chaingrabbing section. (would you want to do the throw section while you are at it?)
Tichinde925 - for the smash attack section and the many ways to suicide spike section
Virgilijus - I know you told me to designate you sections and I will if you want, but I'm sure you have your preferences, let me know.
Shotogon - Let me know which section you would like. I know you were a bit hesitant to take on a section or two so if you want something easy, I would suggest something like the advanced tech section or home run section, for a lot of it would be copying and pasting data.
ShadyDentist - Same as what I told Shotogon, there are easy sections, just let me know which one(s) you want.


To Tichinde925, I didn't know marth possessed many ways to suicide spike. If there really are many ways, I suppose it can be added as a section to the guide if it is good enough.

Which brings me to my next point: Schweeps and Tichinde925 just suggested sections [chaingrabbing and suicide spikes] that aren't on crater's guide:

This is a purpose why we are making another guide: 1) to add any missing information and sections that the previous guide may have lacked and 2) to correct any faulty information on the said guide. This is inevitable, for the metagame has changed significantly since the time crater's guide was written. (which was what, 3 years?)

Keep in mind for sections like the home run one or the target section, we are just going to copy and paste data from other sites. Any data we collect, I will properly acknowledge from whom it came. ( I will be in charge of the credits section at the very least; you all just have to tell me if you took data from another source so I can properly acknowledge that source). Don't plagerize; we can take ideas and what not from the old guide but make sure you add new information to it as well.

Let's get this thing started! I'm going to thank all of the participants of this guide in advance. I greatly appreciate your help in doing this. If we get enough people on this project, we should have this done in no time.

Go ahead an volunteer for a section you would like and also make suggestions as to any other sections we should add. I will take on any remaining sections.

 

[Tichinde925]

Yea, there are several different ways to suicide spike

There were a few suicide spikes in Kizzu's last Combo Vid, where he followed his opponent down into the abyss and did a forward b, jump, dair.

Theres always the running towards the opponent, who is currently off the stage, bairing so that your now facing the stage, and then dairing as your opponent tries to recover.

Those are the 2 main ones that I have seen.

Im pretty sure there are different variations and approaches on this matter, but if it isnt enough information, then either someone else could add to the matter or perhaps just include it with the Move List under "Dairs/Spikes"

P.S.

When I said "Upsmash to Fsmash section", I meant a small guide on how to upsmash and then fsmash your opponent XD, but if you need help with the smash guide, Ill try my best

P.P.S.

So crater12's guide is better than Armads' guide on Gfaqs as well?

P.P.P.S.

why isnt my sig working?

 

[Virgilijus]

I'm thinking I would like the A attacks and aerial sections.

 

[Schweppes]

I can't start work on my section for at least another week...way too much schoolwork to do.

Spell my name right.

>_>

 

[AS Money]

if you guys want my school load is light as hell so i get really board i may be able to help with some stage selection.

now its spring break so next week i may post some insites on stages

lol schweppes/schweepes whats the difference

 

[shadydentist]

If its okay, I'll take pros and cons. That seems easy enough.

 

[flaco]

I find that the game and style of marth game is pretty equeal and balanced also for his pros anhd cons.

 

[B-Will]

Alright, well the list of people helping out in their respective sections has been updated.

I'm going to go ahead and start working on the b moves because it's the easiest.
Like I said, I will take any remaining sections as well so don't worry heh.

Anyways, let's get slowly get this started. I'm going start working on it little by little starting today.