New (?) Marth edgehog "Extended Walkoff Edgehog"

[Lovage 805]

[ I apologize if this is already known, I am not a Marth main, but while messing around with him, I found this interesting way to grab the ledge]

To understand this trick you'll need an understanding of the Walkoff Edgehog or "PC Chris Edgehog." Here's a crash course: With any character (some characters are easier than others by far) walk toward the edge (not dash) right before you fall off, slam back on the control stick. Your character will do a turn around, but he keep the momentum of the walk, and grabs the edge. Here's an example: http://youtube.com/watch?v=g6DI-Ldj1DI

Now, here's what I found with Marth [again, really sorry if this is old] if you do a full speed dash toward the ledge, wavedash forward so that you're walking, and turn around you will keep your momentum and slide off the ledge from way farther than the regular Walkoff Edgehog. Let's do that again.

1. Dash toward the ledge (the more speed the better) [more speed on your dash=more chance of success]

2. Wavedash forward (not supposed to be a big wavedash)

3. Keep DIing toward the edge, so you don't lose any momentum during your walk

4. Now slam back on the control stick like you would in a Walkoff edgehog, but you'll notice that you can do this from way farther away than the regular Walkoff Edgehog.

Application: You are on the left side of FD, you tip forward smash a Shiek to the right, almost killing her, you'll need to grab the ledge to ensure the kill. Dash toward it, wavedash forward, keep DIing toward the ledge so you don't lose momentum slam back on the control stick and grab the ledge.

It kinda looks like a moonwalk forwards.
Try it out and tell me what you think.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

Known and old, it works with a lot of characters with a long wavedash. I guess it looks nice, but IMO walkoff is flashier.

 

[chaotic002]

hmmm sounds interesting but i lack in the edgehog department can someone tell me how to do different kinds of edgehogging because i have a tournament soon i have to attend to.

 

[Professer-MMP]

i knew about both... didnt think they were anything special...

 

[Shmooguy]

Video plz.

 

[undyinglight]

I suppose one could master this if you really wanted to get that ledge quickly

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Too much effort for something that can be done faster and simpler.

 

[Fuzzyness]

sounds like a pivot edgehog when you turn round with momentum, i'm prob gonna make a vid soon of something even sexier =)

 

[Cactuar]

This is faster than doing that:

Run at the edge, wavedash towards it, dd or pivot to turn around, wd immediately backwards off the edge and ff.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

This is faster than doing that:

Run at the edge, wavedash towards it, dd or pivot to turn around, wd immediately backwards off the edge and ff.

Another fast method, I personally think it's slightly slower, Fastliketree claims it's faster. Whatever. Anyway:

Dash toward the ledge
Crouch
Dash forward and immediately
Pivot a wavedash backwards

Basically, it's a FLT grab, but you replace the grab with a WD towards the edge. It looks good on Marth, because the hight of his crouch is about the same as that of his dashing animation, so it looks like you run and then suddenly wavedash while looking the opposite direction.

However, Cactuar's method is easier, and it's the one I use to do it consistently.

 

[Fade016]

why dont we just jump and do a bair to turn around then grab the edge

 

[$hYne]

why dont we just jump and do a bair to turn around then grab the edge

I seccond that.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

why dont we just jump and do a bair to turn around then grab the edge

It's slower and it's not as flashy.