New Ike Main/General Advice

[Starfall11]

Hello all,

I'm a former Falco main from Melee/PM. I started using Shulk when Smash 4 was released on 3DS, and fell in love with the range of his monado and mixup options.

What advice would you have for a new Ike main in PM? I've never used the character before, and want to make the best out of his PM iteration. From what I understand, he's much quicker as a result of his quickdraw mixups and options. Some of these include Up Smash, Grabs, Jump Cancelled Aerials, etc.

What would you say is a good general gameplan with Ike in PM? Other than the obvious quickdraw mixups? Unless this is pretty much his entire game.

And lastly, is Ike tournament viable in PM. I've heard PM is balanced enough that any character can win tournaments and I want to take Ike to a very high level. Like the potential Falco had in PM/Melee.

 

[Sol0ke]

Ike is certainly viable in the world of PM.
Yea, from what I remember, part of Ike's game is focused on using Quickdraw, whether it's for spacing or getting in close

I'm sure someone else can elaborate since I don't play PM anymore

 

[zz_halim]

i have a similar issue, basically i have big trouble getting a gameplan together

ESPECIALLY in neutral

 

[Commander]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NupLwn0Ty0c
The only thing that doesn't apply in this video is the wall jumps. You are limited to 2 wall jumps before being forced to land on the stage to get them back.

 

[zz_halim]

yeah i knew about this tech and train it, but i suffer more with finding openings and positioning...

 

[Commander]

yeah i knew about this tech and train it, but i suffer more with finding openings and positioning...

That's just learning the game.

 

[Starfall11]

I have watched that video. And I am currently trying to master QD > Jump Cancelled Throw. It seems like you have to plink Y and Z together. It's pretty difficult execution wise. I can do it, but not consistently.

I need to find out more about openings and which tools are used to approach/defend.

I feel like my best option right now is QD > JC > Nair/Fair. But other than that and an occasional throw, the positioning is difficult. Been watching some Metroid matches though. And I'll be competing in a tournament within in a week.

 

[zz_halim]

metroid seems to bait with his doublejump often and occassionally throws out an aggressive fair. at least in some matchups

 

[Starfall11]

Yeah, empty jumps are pretty important. Seems like some spacing with Nair and Jab combo.

 

[Steelo Rivers]

This is probably well known by now but, you can wd fw and back out of quickdraw. I almost want to make an ike video just to post here. Most of ikes game is quickdraw mixups and nairs. bair is not respected enough either.

 

[Starfall11]

Bair is a great attack. Ike's fastest aerial I think and tremendous kill potential. A lot of his play is QD mixups, but you can definitely use dash dancing and feints into throws as well.

 

[Steelo Rivers]

I love dash dancing with Ike.He just glides with so much power.. it's like marth but 10x more intense.

 

[Starfall11]

Yeah, Ike is the most I have ever had in Smash. In PM, he's so fast and unique. But in Brawl/Smash 4, he's one dimensional and much much slower without all of the movement options and QD mixups.