NEW and FUN approach to self improvement; Smashed/Smash Theory (M-A-R-T-H)

[Vice Lord]

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Hey everyone, a brief introduction about me as you doesn’t know me (yet), I’m ViceLord. I love smash Bros. It’s always been one of my favorite games, and in melee Marth is definitely my favorite character. While my account is new to the forums, I certainly am not, I don’t have a reason for not making an account here up until this point, I just haven’t. Don’t be discouraged by my low post count, I’m no newb to advanced smash, I’ve been reading/learning from these forums for a year and a half now, and I felt it was about time for me to contribute something to my fellow smashers.


Anyways for the past year or so whenever my friends would stop by my house to play game cube, we’ve ended up playing smash more then anything else and they all have been trying to keep up with my always advancing marth, (as well as but to a lesser degree; ganon/peach/ylink, my subs), while I get a good chance to test out my new skills and techniques. Now I know what you’re thinking this sounds like just a friendly smash fest, everyone does that. The difference for me is myself and my friends are drunk/blazed 50-75% of the time we play. At first it was discouraging, because I wouldn’t own my friends by the same margin I would when I was sober, but I soon realized the potential for improvement here.

Whenever you are sh*t-faced you can’t think as clearly and end up relying mainly on your smashed-smash instincts, making reading the opponent harder and performing difficult combos/techniques more difficult as well. The more intoxicated the higher degree of difficulty in doing what was originally not that difficult.

So I advise other smashers to give this a try, pay attention to your play style (as much as you can in this state) and see what areas you have become sloppier in, or techs you cannot perform at all. For example I used to struggle with ken combos and pivoted tilts and smashes when doing this, as well as my ability to feint my opponent into performing certain actions (mind games). (If Possible Record yourself, to view your areas of weakness when more sober), then focus on improving these areas. Afterwards learn some new tricks, and then get mashed again, rinse and repeat.

(dont get the wrong idea about people my marth gets experience playing against, i don't just play my friends, i play the asian pros at my college when i am sober, some of which are top notch at smash (not always, but usually beat me), most of them around as good as me, it'd be funny if some of you on this forum are them lol, gimme a holla if you go to centennial college)

The reason this is in the marth forums is because I main marth, and I havn’t had much experience with smashed-smash outside of marth and a few others, so I don’t know if it is as effective with say fox, or another character that plays the same way in most situations. (In my opinion marth is one of the most demanding for an adaptable play style), anyone who wants to test other characters, be my guest.



(ViceLord’s Guide to Choosing your poison)

<GOOD>: My personal advice in inebriation, stick to beer. Best options;
(Canadian / Sleeman / Ricards Red)

<BAD>: Make sure you get good beer, do not get nasty Lakeport (anyone drinking lakeport gets a nasty backhand across the face from me, to go with this nasty beer). Hoegarden (gross), or Dab (conveniently BAD spelled backwards). Nothing really against Budweiser, but it’s an angry beer, and you should never play smash angry & drunk, never a good combination, and leads to things breaking, only drink moosehead at a cottage (free belt/hat/shirt/flashlight with purchase of 24), you shouldn’t be playing video games at a cottage.

<WORSE>: Liquor and smash don’t mix! W/e prove me wrong if you want to try, some people may be different but all the smashed-smashers I know agree with me on this one.

<ACCEPTABLE>: Rum isn’t so bad (crown royal ftw). If you’re feeling white trash and or are poor, go grab a nice big bottle of red wine, good $ for quantity and keeps you warm in the winter. My experience with wine isn’t that great overall, but red is always the way to go, I’ve enjoyed Domaine D’oir and Gato Negro, both low in sweetness.

Now on a touchier subject I understand when it comes to smoking weed, some people do, some don’t. I live in Canada so weed isn’t considered that bad here, (an individual has to have at least 7 grams on them to get charged here) if you live in the states you have my pity. Get good ****, purple crush, Buddha, creeper, blueberry etc. (no nasty *** hydro strain, or low quality outdoor grown, although some outdoors is alright) if you want to smoke a flavored blunt try Gin & Juice, Chocolate, or Strawberry Vannila, best overal to roll with is Captain Blacks. (If you have a vaporizer i envy you). Tip it with a bit of tobacco to make it burn smoother, (IMPORTANT) make sure there is no Windex, or raid (ant killer) mixed in with it. If possible give hash, or honey oil a try. W00t to any Amsterdam smashers, smoke up a massive 4 pape for me.


I know I have typed a lot, props to those who have kept up and read to this part. I hope mods don’t take this topic the wrong way and close it, I believe what I have said is a very valid way of improvement in your game play, and unintentionally a good way to become a functional drunk. I’m curious if any other players have attempted similar practices to what I have, if so please post and give your input, I would also like the community pros to give their two cents on my topic. Keep an open mind.

In closing, I play smash in Ontario, Scarborough (Scarberian barbarians) I’m clanless, and play Black Marth tagged as Deus = (god in latin) Deus ex machina = (god on a machine rough translation) watch the movie Donnie Darko, it’s a sick movie and where I got it from. My account name Vice Lord comes from a black drug dealing gang from the early 70’s, the Vicelords. Peace out.

 

[theONEjanitor]

i dont understand the point.
get drunk so you suck, then see what you did wrong?
why's that better than playing normally and seeing what you did wrong?

 

[Imperial Wraith]

i dont understand the point.
get drunk so you suck, then see what you did wrong?
why's that better than playing normally and seeing what you did wrong?

Aparently it's more fun xD.

 

[Rune]

W00t to any Amsterdam smashers, smoke up a massive 4 pape for me.

You fool, the Dutch don't smoke weed, we sell it to stupid tourists.

Only our local white-trash and hiphop fans use it because they think it's gangsta.

 

[Vice Lord]

i dont understand the point.
get drunk so you suck, then see what you did wrong?
why's that better than playing normally and seeing what you did wrong?

I understand where you're comming from, to answer your question. The reason this works better is because not only are your mistakes more obvious, it shows what tactics you havn't completely mastered yet, when sober you may not make certain mistakes that you make drunk, meaning that you still need to practice these areas and improve apon them. So if you can make your self own when smashed, you will **** when sober. I'm assuming by your question you havn't tried it yet, trust me your sober gameplay will skyrocket.


RUNE, are you serious? you live in the netherlands and don't smoke up? You're so lucky to be where you are and don't even take advantage of it. Don't say "we don't smoke it, we sell it to stupid tourists" it makes it sound as if you know what dealers do with their weed. People will always test their own ****, all those crazy strains you guys come up with need to be tested, thats how you know how potent it is. If you're going to call me a fool, atleast give me some feedback on my smashed-smash idea instead of just rudely dismissing my cheers to you and all your fellow dutch.

Imperial, yes it is definitely more fun, and makes smash bros take on a whole new perspective.


Sorry i type so much in my comments, i'll try to keep them shorter in future. I don't mind criticism, as long as it is CONSTRUCTIVE. If someone has attempted my idea a few times and it honestly doen't work for them please say so.

 

[Bailey]

Wow. This thread made me want to kill Marth.

 

[Umpy]

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Hey everyone, a brief introduction about me as you doesn’t know me (yet), I’m ViceLord. I love smash Bros. It’s always been one of my favorite games, and in melee Marth is definitely my favorite character. While my account is new to the forums, I certainly am not, I don’t have a reason for not making an account here up until this point, I just haven’t. Don’t be discouraged by my low post count, I’m no newb to advanced smash, I’ve been reading/learning from these forums for a year and a half now, and I felt it was about time for me to contribute something to my fellow smashers.


Anyways for the past year or so whenever my friends would stop by my house to play game cube, we’ve ended up playing smash more then anything else and they all have been trying to keep up with my always advancing marth, (as well as but to a lesser degree; ganon/peach/ylink, my subs), while I get a good chance to test out my new skills and techniques. Now I know what you’re thinking this sounds like just a friendly smash fest, everyone does that. The difference for me is myself and my friends are drunk/blazed 50-75% of the time we play. At first it was discouraging, because I wouldn’t own my friends by the same margin I would when I was sober, but I soon realized the potential for improvement here.

Whenever you are sh*t-faced you can’t think as clearly and end up relying mainly on your smashed-smash instincts, making reading the opponent harder and performing difficult combos/techniques more difficult as well. The more intoxicated the higher degree of difficulty in doing what was originally not that difficult.

So I advise other smashers to give this a try, pay attention to your play style (as much as you can in this state) and see what areas you have become sloppier in, or techs you cannot perform at all. For example I used to struggle with ken combos and pivoted tilts and smashes when doing this, as well as my ability to feint my opponent into performing certain actions (mind games). (If Possible Record yourself, to view your areas of weakness when more sober), then focus on improving these areas. Afterwards learn some new tricks, and then get mashed again, rinse and repeat.

(dont get the wrong idea about people my marth gets experience playing against, i don't just play my friends, i play the asian pros at my college when i am sober, some of which are top notch at smash (not always, but usually beat me), most of them around as good as me, it'd be funny if some of you on this forum are them lol, gimme a holla if you go to centennial college)

The reason this is in the marth forums is because I main marth, and I havn’t had much experience with smashed-smash outside of marth and a few others, so I don’t know if it is as effective with say fox, or another character that plays the same way in most situations. (In my opinion marth is one of the most demanding for an adaptable play style), anyone who wants to test other characters, be my guest.



(ViceLord’s Guide to Choosing your poison)

<GOOD>: My personal advice in inebriation, stick to beer. Best options;
(Canadian / Sleeman / Ricards Red)

<BAD>: Make sure you get good beer, do not get nasty Lakeport (anyone drinking lakeport gets a nasty backhand across the face from me, to go with this nasty beer). Hoegarden (gross), or Dab (conveniently BAD spelled backwards). Nothing really against Budweiser, but it’s an angry beer, and you should never play smash angry & drunk, never a good combination, and leads to things breaking, only drink moosehead at a cottage (free belt/hat/shirt/flashlight with purchase of 24), you shouldn’t be playing video games at a cottage.

<WORSE>: Liquor and smash don’t mix! W/e prove me wrong if you want to try, some people may be different but all the smashed-smashers I know agree with me on this one.

<ACCEPTABLE>: Rum isn’t so bad (crown royal ftw). If you’re feeling white trash and or are poor, go grab a nice big bottle of red wine, good $ for quantity and keeps you warm in the winter. My experience with wine isn’t that great overall, but red is always the way to go, I’ve enjoyed Domaine D’oir and Gato Negro, both low in sweetness.

Now on a touchier subject I understand when it comes to smoking weed, some people do, some don’t. I live in Canada so weed isn’t considered that bad here, (an individual has to have at least 7 grams on them to get charged here) if you live in the states you have my pity. Get good ****, purple crush, Buddha, creeper, blueberry etc. (no nasty *** hydro strain, or low quality outdoor grown, although some outdoors is alright) if you want to smoke a flavored blunt try Gin & Juice, Chocolate, or Strawberry Vannila, best overal to roll with is Captain Blacks. (If you have a vaporizer i envy you). Tip it with a bit of tobacco to make it burn smoother, (IMPORTANT) make sure there is no Windex, or raid (ant killer) mixed in with it. If possible give hash, or honey oil a try. W00t to any Amsterdam smashers, smoke up a massive 4 pape for me.


I know I have typed a lot, props to those who have kept up and read to this part. I hope mods don’t take this topic the wrong way and close it, I believe what I have said is a very valid way of improvement in your game play, and unintentionally a good way to become a functional drunk. I’m curious if any other players have attempted similar practices to what I have, if so please post and give your input, I would also like the community pros to give their two cents on my topic. Keep an open mind.

In closing, I play smash in Ontario, Scarborough (Scarberian barbarians) I’m clanless, and play Black Marth tagged as Deus = (god in latin) Deus ex machina = (god on a machine rough translation) watch the movie Donnie Darko, it’s a sick movie and where I got it from. My account name Vice Lord comes from a black drug dealing gang from the early 70’s, the Vicelords. Peace out.

This is the dumbest thing ever. Getting drunk for one is stupid, and it is not going to make you better at Smash or any other game you play ever.

This thread is a waste of life.

 

[Vice Lord]

This is the dumbest thing ever. Getting drunk for one is stupid, and it is not going to make you better at Smash or any other game you play ever.

This thread is a waste of life.

Hmm i see where your other 92 posts came from Umpy. Try adding to the community, instead of just being insulting, i don't understand the point of **** talking on a website, the person is miles away from you, not like you'll ever meet me. I'm curious though, would you say something like that to my face?

But I guess i should of considered ages of people on smashbros before making a controversial topic like this. Alot of smashers are not the age of majority (not singling out anyone), I'm sorry for you if you think drinking is stupid. How can you dismiss something you don't do? How do you know it'll never make you improve when you don't do it, where do you get this insight from?

Just to clarify for people who have gotten the wrong idea about me, i don't even drink that much, throughout my college courses during the year i only get drunk on "average" once a week. During the summer it's a bit more about 2-3 times a week, but what can i say, i'm Irish.

 

[ToyzSoldier]

Doesn't beer kill your brain cells?

 

[thebluedeath1000]

No, you're indeed wrong if you think beer makes you play probably/faster, its just because you are delayed and feel so slow that it happens like that.

In that essence, its stupid to believe it helps in any way.

In the essence of fun, its one great thing to do.

 

[Vice Lord]

No blue, i know it makes you play worse, that's the whole idea. You need to be even better to play well when inebriated. As for killing brain cells, yes it will do that, but you have very many anyways, unless you get ******** every day, you won't see any big difference. As long as you keep using your brain.

Overal it seems player feedback is negative, I'm going to come back about 7-9 tonite and check this topics progress. If the general consensus is that this topic as stupid, then i'll stop defending it and try to find an alternative way to add to the community, the marth boards, and smashboards.com. I've spent enough time on one topic.

Edits: I edit my topics sometimes as to not sound condescending, or offensive.

 

[SantaClaus]

No, you're indeed wrong if you think beer makes you play probably/faster, its just because you are delayed and feel so slow that it happens like that.

In that essence, its stupid to believe it helps in any way.

In the essence of fun, its one great thing to do.

Did you even read his post? Did he say beer made you play faster?

 

[thebluedeath1000]

don't be a smart*** santa.

I said IF YOU believed it, by the general reaction of everyone, thats what it was about. I did read the post thank you. That wasn't directed at anyone in particular, it was a general remark.


The reason general feedback is the way it is, is that most marth board members are either extremely young or extremely dull.

 

[Zankoku]

You need to be even better to play well when inebriated.

You need to get a lot better in order to play well when drunk? Who would've thought?

The only reason this thread isn't closed yet is because it's not in the general Melee Discussion, where mods pay more attention.

 

[knightpraetor]

ouch i must be extremely dull meh maybe some people just don't approve of drunkenness? i've drunk a little, but not enough to screw up my smash play much.

anyways, i don't think smash is the sort of game this will work for..

though i did watch one of my friends beat a sober friend while totally smashed at street fighter..but i don't think he was using much in the way of mind games..just strong pressure along with basic mixup..not much in the way of prediction or active thought.

well anyhow, improving your thinking and prediction is what makes you a better player..not trying to see how much coordination you have while drunk..even if you are improving your execution of weak points of your game..i seriously doubt that you're improving your mind's ability to predict or create new strategies to adapt to a player's playstyle...and ultimately that is what will make you good.

lately i've started to like playing bowser..the lack of combos/useful abilities makes it impossible to win against equal level players without relying pretty much entirely on your mental play

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Anokoku, I'm the strictest marth board regular there is and I don't disapprove of this all that much as the marth board could use a "general friendly" discussion once in awhile

*nods*

 

[KyloWinter]

I used to play Smashed bros at college. 10 stock FFA take a drink after every death. Fun times.

 

[gnosis]

This is just like Piccolo training with weights on, then he takes them off and his power level raises like a million or something.

I figured a DBZ reference would be the most understandable.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

It wouldn't help you get any better what so ever but I don't think it'd hurt your completely sober play.

 

[Rune]

RUNE, are you serious? you live in the netherlands and don't smoke up? You're so lucky to be where you are and don't even take advantage of it. Don't say "we don't smoke it, we sell it to stupid tourists" it makes it sound as if you know what dealers do with their weed. People will always test their own ****, all those crazy strains you guys come up with need to be tested, thats how you know how potent it is. If you're going to call me a fool, atleast give me some feedback on my smashed-smash idea instead of just rudely dismissing my cheers to you and all your fellow dutch.

Right, what you do by lowering your consciousness while playing, is lengthening the road to perfection (do you need to lengthen that road anyway? Are you a perfect player already? Is anyone?). For someone to be able to play like a God while drunk/high, he/she needs to be very good, this is true. But what does he need to be good at? He needs to be good at coping with being drunk/high while playing.. does that make him better at playing while sober? No, not in any way, why would you think that?
This is not like wearing weights during karate practice, you're simply lowering your consciousness, overcoming this doesn't make you more conscious when sober, unless you're somehow not fully conscious when you're sober. But that would be a different story altogether.
You cannot train your consciousness. Some people might believe they can through meditation and such (I don't believe in that stuff, if it worked, all top athletes would use it) but not through drinking.

As for the weed thing, I called you a fool jokingly. It's really not foolish of you to think the Dutch are potheads, you're just assuming things.. everyone does that.
Of course we smoke the stuff, but it's mostly done by youths acting cool, and indeed, people in the business.
I personally do not ever smoke weed, it's bad for your body in quite a few ways, can be psychologically addicting, and turns you into a lazy dimwit. As with alcohol, I do not see how turning yourself into a giggling ****** can be a desirable or fun thing to do more often than maybe once a year. Unless you live a horrible life, but in that case it might be better to make some drastic changes to it, instead of spending a lot of money on removing your ability to think straight.. that won't solve your problems anyway, only postpone said solving.

Thinking is my favorite pastime, more people should do it more often, not less. There's more than enough stupidity in the world as it is.
You thinking us Dutch are weak minded enough to even want to be high all day is slightly offensive. Overall the Dutch are somewhat greedy businessmen, very sober and rational, often even a bit dispassionate. The reason we legalize certain soft drugs, is because we rationally thought about the consequences, and what we'd have to gain, not because we like to get high and scuffle around the streets all day with moronic grins on our faces.

That my friend, is not how we got so wealthy and progressive for such a pathetically small country.

PS: I'm not angry, even though I might seem to be.

 

[Vice Lord]

Right, what you do by lowering your consciousness while playing, is lengthening the road to perfection (do you need to lengthen that road anyway? Are you a perfect player already? Is anyone?). For someone to be able to play like a God while drunk/high, he/she needs to be very good, this is true. But what does he need to be good at? He needs to be good at coping with being drunk/high while playing.. does that make him better at playing while sober? No, not in any way, why would you think that?
This is not like wearing weights during karate practice, you're simply lowering your consciousness, overcoming this doesn't make you more conscious when sober, unless you're somehow not fully conscious when you're sober. But that would be a different story altogether.
You cannot train your consciousness. Some people might believe they can through meditation and such (I don't believe in that stuff, if it worked, all top athletes would use it) but not through drinking.

As for the weed thing, I called you a fool jokingly. It's really not foolish of you to think the Dutch are potheads, you're just assuming things.. everyone does that.
Of course we smoke the stuff, but it's mostly done by youths acting cool, and indeed, people in the business.
I personally do not ever smoke weed, it's bad for your body in quite a few ways, can be psychologically addicting, and turns you into a lazy dimwit. As with alcohol, I do not see how turning yourself into a giggling ****** can be a desirable or fun thing to do more often than maybe once a year. Unless you live a horrible life, but in that case it might be better to make some drastic changes to it, instead of spending a lot of money on removing your ability to think straight.. that won't solve your problems anyway, only postpone solving them.

Thinking is my favorite pastime, more people should do it more often, not less. There's more than enough stupidity in the world as it is.
You thinking us Dutch are weak minded enough to even want to be high all day is slightly offensive. Overall the Dutch are somewhat greedy businessmen, very sober and rational, often even a bit dispassionate. The reason we legalize certain soft drugs, is because we rationally thought about the consequences, and what we'd have to gain, not because we like to get high and scuffle around the streets all day with moronic grins on our faces.

That my friend, is not how we got so wealthy and progressive for such a pathetically small country.

PS: I'm not angry, even though I might seem to be.

Alright back on again, nice to see some feedback from people this time. So far best feedback is from you rune and blue death, a few useless posts here and there, (anokoku and umpy), but i expected as much.

Read my comment again Rune, nowhere did i say people from Amsterdam are pot heads, i just said they are lucky that green is legal, i never said anything intentionally offensive, i think the dutch are awesome. I know first hand what weed does to you, and i smoke quite a bit and i am still do many activities (check profile) as well as go to school, work, go downtown to have a goodtime and play smash with my friends / post here, ultimately weed only makes you a lazy ******* if you let it . Alcohol doesn't necessarily make you become a giggling idiot, only some people react that way. If you want giggling idiots, take shrooms. (i'm curious btw if salvia divinorum is legal where you are, as it is a legal 5 minute acid tip in Canada)

(back on topic) I completely agree with blue and rune in the way that mind games / observation (indisputably most important aspect of your game play) don't undergo much gain with my idea. Smashed-smash is more focused on proper performance of techniques, timing and precision under harsh conditions. This is aimed towards people who want to completely get a combo down to muscle memory, or specific technique down under any circumstances (exp: in a tourney environment, where you may be nervous, and make mistakes. An alternative to this may be just to go to more tournaments.

Even if you are completely against the possibility that this might have a positive impact on your game in some way, at least admit that it is fun. because it most definitely is.

(off topic) this is probably my last post here, so reread my other comments/main post for feedback, i'm going to be working on an indepth marth tutorial video (if i can get everything working properly) don't expect it for a while, as i am new to video making and have to finish reading all the guidelines and instructions in the video section, i know you guys will like it if it comes together as i envision it. anyways easy all, have a good weekend!

(edit to comment below me)

I don't claim i have more technical skill than that of anyone, unless i have seen them play or played them myself, personally i believe my tech skill too be quite high. My video will be more focused on bringing middle level players (people who already know how to do advanced techniques at least at a basic level) more up to speed, tricks, tips, most efficeint buttons to press etc. and most of all set ups, i have searched google video, the forums, youtube etc. and i havn't seen many in-depth videos, just wak's, the one you link in your noob topic creation topic, and smashtom's (>.<) if you want to help me i would definitely appreciate it.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Vice lord, no offense to you at all but do you have the ability and skill to out-do the other match tech videos? If so, please let me help you decide what goes in it to shut down alot of this useless noob topics.

 

[Umpy]

Hmm i see where your other 92 posts came from Umpy. Try adding to the community, instead of just being insulting, i don't understand the point of **** talking on a website, the person is miles away from you, not like you'll ever meet me. I'm curious though, would you say something like that to my face?

But I guess i should of considered ages of people on smashbros before making a controversial topic like this. Alot of smashers are not the age of majority (not singling out anyone), I'm sorry for you if you think drinking is stupid. How can you dismiss something you don't do? How do you know it'll never make you improve when you don't do it, where do you get this insight from?

Just to clarify for people who have gotten the wrong idea about me, i don't even drink that much, throughout my college courses during the year i only get drunk on "average" once a week. During the summer it's a bit more about 2-3 times a week, but what can i say, i'm Irish.

I am sorry for you to think that you are adding to the community. Last time i checked getting drunk is poisoning your blood. So how is that adding to the community?Telling people to drink poison. I could drink if i wanted to, i live in Naples, Italy, there is no drinking age here. I choose not to because i would like to keep my brain cells. So apperantly losing brain cells helps with your Smash tech. skills. Something just doesnt add up.

All you are doing when you get drunk is losing more and more conciusnous. In order to be good at a video game or a sport you have to have your brain active. Not sleeping.

This has been proven multiple times over.

 

[Rune]

I know first hand what weed does to you, and you don't necessarily become a giggling idiot as you put it, only some people react that way, some people become mellow, some become mad paranoid. If you want giggling idiots, take shrooms. (i'm curious btw if salvia divinorum is legal where you are)

Who really cares what type of idiot you turn into. Being any form of idiot sucks. And yes, Salvia Divinorum is legal here. Available at smartshops, just like shrooms.

So apperantly losing brain cells helps with your Smash tech. skills. Something just doesnt add up.

All you are doing when you get drunk is losing more and more conciusnous. In order to be good at a video game or a sport you have to have your brain active. Not sleeping.

Good point, how are you gonna learn anything when your brain only half active? I guess drinking your brain into a coma makes your mindgames so bad you'll have to rely on technical skill to beat anything. ;P

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Some people take life too seriously, like Umpa.

Life is short so go on and live it (responsibly mind you) but people can have fun however they choose...You people need a more humorous viewpoint at this topic. Its not killing anyone.

I dislike drugs and smoking but a drink once a month isn't bad.

 

[Umpy]

Some people take life too seriously, like Umpa.

Life is short so go on and live it (responsibly mind you) but people can have fun however they choose...You people need a more humorous viewpoint at this topic. Its not killing anyone.

I dislike drugs and smoking but a drink once a month isn't bad.

Oh trust me i dont take life to seriously.

i am just straight edge and i find drinking and doing drugs a very very dumb thing to do.

I can do stupid stuff sober that is all. i like remembering things.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

I don't want to say anything offensive but don't be so tight, thats coming from someone who takes the internet seriously..O.o

If its illegal there, I'm sorry for you but after a good friendly drinking experience. (Not like drinking till death or binge drinking or anything of the sort, but a few drinks and not driving) You may would change your mind.

 

[Rune]

I enjoy heated discussion for the sake of heated discussion, not because I take teh intertubes seriously. Oh, and my mother was an alcoholic. <3

 

[knightpraetor]

bluedeath...being in college and all, i can't say that i've been impressed with the "good friendly drinking" business...but perhaps i've just not had the right experiences.

but anyways, in general i find that most people do not have a few drinks so that they're a little flushed...a few get tipsy enough till they'll laugh at anything...and the others get so trashed that it's a little ridiculous...but reagardless..even my friends...most of whom do not overdrink... do not make exceptionally good company when drunk..yes it's nice to have a feeling of being a little flushed and relaxed at life..but comparing that to actual meaningful times you spend with people when they are sober has always made me question whether it's even worth the time...even assuming my friends don't overdrink..surely we could find better fun with full use of our faculties?

shrugs..anyways, i have a drink now and then to be socially polite, but i've never been drunk to the point of physical or mental impairment. Anyways, in general i don't hvae much faith in anyone in my generation to actually understand the meaning of "responsible drinking". they set no limit on how much they intend to drink..and just tell themselves "oh i won't overdrink", and then promptly forget how much they've drunk.

well, what the hell am i doing even mentioning this..it doesn't matter on some silly forum and it won't change things on a college campus that is for sure:\

 

[thebluedeath1000]

In college, I've put foot to *** many times at parties over idiots so lets not discuss that..I'm more referencing friendly drinking, with trusted friends and with not many people..

Not idiots that only care for drunking, but for abit of fun once in awhile. Rent a few movies, get a few drinks, play smash, etc. In the comfort of your own home.

 

[xelad1]

I've played drinking games involving smash (swigs of beer for every lost stock, and the winner has to take 2 swigs... you wouldn't get very far playing with hard liquor).... but to use it for tactical purposes? Man that is some original **** and I'm very intrigued... plus if it doesn't work out its still an excuse to drink right... but what if you drink so much you forget what your weak spots are lol?

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Xelad has a valid point...

"Weaknesses..err...more beer will help.."

 

[Imperial Wraith]

Lawl, only n00bs need drink/drugs to get high/drunk. I can do that stuff w/o any help xD.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

You're talented then.

 

[Salaad]

Why are we arguing with him? He's probably drunk/high...

 

[Rune]

Because that dry hunk is posting bull.

 

[Professor X]

I understand what you're saying, and I think your post has merit. But as you can this was not posted among like-minded individuals.

 

[Imperial Wraith]

You're talented then.

Woot xD. You make me feel so special. <3

 

[Omega_Star]

Wow, what an interesting post. I don't drink, but I still give you props for originality.

However, I did take a course in psychology last year, and something I believe worth noting is that when you experience something while you're drunk, you'll better remember it when you're intoxicated than when you're sober.

Also, I really don't see any reason to close this thread. If people find it irrelevant, then they can just not post in it, simple as that. Besides, even though I find the scope of the thread irrelevant to myself, it's still a refreshing departure from the usual "Rate my Marth" and "How do you SHDFair?" threads that are found in such abundance here.

Btw, thanks for commenting on my YouTube videos

 

[T3st1fy]

Wow.. think how many kids are now going to try this because you said they would be better at smash. Drinking at a young age usually causes alcoholism and I bet that vice is going to a bum that spends all his family's money on alcohol for his own shallow enjoyment. Drugs are illegal. They can get you addicted and they can trash your life; give you STDs; hurt your lungs, brain, liver(especially alcohol which is why most alcoholics become jaundice) ,and pretty much every other part of your body. So if vice wants to screw up his life to become better at a video game, its his choice. But please, no one else do something this stupid.