Ness Tech: PK Dash/PK Lock (Video Demonstration)

[Mikkelmann]

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Hey I just wanted to make a short thread about a tech I think I found correct me if i'm wrong. And also correct me if I miss anything that people know about.

The "PK Dash" is a way to PK Fire and move forward at the same time.The "PK Lock" is a way to lock or rack up damage very quickly and simple and you can use it to combo into other attacks. PK Fire does %15-%22 and it can stack.

If you do a dash right after you PK Fire then do an other one you can do it again and move forward a bit. This will work best if you're hitting the opponent with a PK Fire already. So you can stick to the opponent and rack up damage very quickly, so this way if you're behind you can use PK Dash/PK Lock to catch up.

So if for example if you PK Dash into PK Lock and you PK Lock 4 times you will deal at least %67 very quick. This can be predicted and punished very easy though so be careful just throwing it out there. I may update this thread with anything new or anything i missed or messed up on. Videos will be down below and i'll add more info later on and videos.

And this is a very short demonstration you can do a PK Lock for much longer. And it works on a lot of characters but i'll update for characters that it does not work on. And I have tried it DIing and jumping and several other options and you can DI out of it at higher percents and jump out of it but at lower percents it's really hard to get out off but i'll let you know if it changes.

PK Lock Remastered by Azazel

 

[PKBeam]

Uh, it kind of looks like it's shieldable. You got any gameplay vids that do tons of damage?

 

[Mikkelmann]

Uh, it kind of looks like it's shieldable. You got any gameplay vids that do tons of damage?

Yes it can be shielded but if you hit them it can be hard to shield and this is meant to be up close if you fire it from a distinct they may shield it and it could not work. And like I said it does not work very well on higher percents and i'll add a video of it doing a lot damage in a bit when my camera is charged.

 

[Earthbound360]

Uhh... this is just dashing into PKF... over and over again.
It's not hard to get out of, the opponent should be able to get out at 0% after the first PKF. It shouldn't ever really connect multiple PKFs in a row.

 

[Uffe]

The only time you should be able to connect a constant row of PKF is when the opponent is heavy. I did this to a D3 today, but after a certain amount of percent and DI, he could escape it. For the most part, this is probably really useful when your opponent is off the stage and recovering as they'll have no other way of dealing with it without lowering below stage level and trying to recover. Even then, that's kind of hard. But there is a frame that allows this to happen the moment the opponent grabs the edge, but you have to time it precisely. I wouldn't ignore this as something that doesn't work, because it does. It just doesn't work on most of the cast, and if your opponent is a light weight, then the odds of this working effectively is never.

PKF in general is useful for opponents who roll a lot. If they roll away after getting hit by one PKF, you can throw another out and then follow it up with another PKF or grab. I really do think PKF deserves a buff, or allowing it to explode like Robin's fire ability works. Hopefully in the next game.

 

[Azazel]

The only time you should be able to connect a constant row of PKF is when the opponent is heavy. I did this to a D3 today, but after a certain amount of percent and DI, he could escape it. For the most part, this is probably really useful when your opponent is off the stage and recovering as they'll have no other way of dealing with it without lowering below stage level and trying to recover. Even then, that's kind of hard. But there is a frame that allows this to happen the moment the opponent grabs the edge, but you have to time it precisely. I wouldn't ignore this as something that doesn't work, because it does. It just doesn't work on most of the cast, and if your opponent is a light weight, then the odds of this working effectively is never.

PKF in general is useful for opponents who roll a lot. If they roll away after getting hit by one PKF, you can throw another out and then follow it up with another PKF or grab. I really do think PKF deserves a buff, or allowing it to explode like Robin's fire ability works. Hopefully in the next game.

Sweet spot each PK fire I.E. Deep in their back. I used all the tricks in the book to fight against the horizontal knockback and here's the results.
The problem is that PK fire has pathetic hitstun. it only effectively locks characters at higher percents. But then at higher percents, chaining PK fires is pretty pointless since you should be fishing for KOs instead of risky PK fire and they can still SDI up and jump away

 

[Mikkelmann]

Sweet spot each PK fire I.E. Deep in their back. I used all the tricks in the book to fight against the horizontal knockback and here's the results.
The problem is that PK fire has pathetic hitstun. it only effectively locks characters at higher percents.

This is a great way to make PK Lock better for tournament play thank you for remastering it .

 

[Azazel]

This is a great way to make PK Lock better for tournament play thank you for remastering it .

Read This thread if you're interested in the mechanics behind it. That's where it developed.

 

[Mikkelmann]

Ok

Read This thread if you're interested in the mechanics behind it. That's where it developed.

cool I'll make sure to give you credit on this thread.

 

[Azazel]

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And I have tried it DIing and jumping and several other options and you can DI out of it at higher percents and jump out of it but at lower percents it's really hard to get out off but i'll let you know if it changes.

I am holding you to this. Have fun testing for vulnerable characters (being fat, having no quick aerials, etc.) and percent and DI. With organized lists and stuff.

Spoiler

Muahahahah. There's like 50 characters. lel.

 

[Slaudial]

it's really too bad this isn't a legit thing because then it would fit in just fine with the rest of the smash 4 combos

 

[Mikkelmann]

I'll be testing PK Lock in my smash 4 marathon today I may stream it maybe not I don't know yet but some of my friemds may come over and help out. I'll put all of the info in this thread after we're done testing it.