Need help

[Chiroz]

Ok, so since now I have the game for myself and can test stuff in training (before I had limited time as I was at my friend's house with about 6-10 other people in line every time I played a match). I've noticed a few things.

Greninja can sometimes stay running even after performing Side-B (Even with the slow side-B). As in, if you're running you press side-B and keep running as if you hadn't pressed side-B at all while the shadow also charges forward. Does anyone know how to do this yet? It's happened to me quite a lot of times but I still can't tell how I am doing it when it happens.



Also, this might have just been my game bugging or something but at one time I was hit with a Smash from Bowser at 140% (training mode) and I Up-Bed right as he hit me and completely cancelled 100% of my momentum. As in it was just as if Bowser hadn't hit me. I've tried replicating this at least 20 times and it isn't happening anymore, I think it might have been a bug but it would be good to check on that.





Also, I know this isn't exactly Greninja related but how the hell do you unlock R.O.B.? (I know the 80 matches, but I don't want to do it that way, I like to do it the "classic" way in all Smashes, it's just a thing I like).

 

[Sosuke]

i have no clue about the running thing, i'll try some stuff out with it today

i think that might be the only way to get ROB

 

[Chiroz]

i have no clue about the running thing, i'll try some stuff out with it today

i think that might be the only way to get ROB

The running thing is something we all must learn. It makes Side-B so much more useful. And it's not like I am doing some kind of special input, it's just that sometimes Greninja just continues to run normally. My shadow can reach from one end of BF to the other in about a second in this way (since I am also running forward).



Edit: Unlocking R.O.B. is apparently just getting 200 trophies, just did it.

 

[Spirst]

Ok, so since now I have the game for myself and can test stuff in training (before I had limited time as I was at my friend's house with about 6-10 other people in line every time I played a match). I've noticed a few things.

Greninja can sometimes stay running even after performing Side-B (Even with the slow side-B). As in, if you're running you press side-B and keep running as if you hadn't pressed side-B at all while the shadow also charges forward. Does anyone know how to do this yet? It's happened to me quite a lot of times but I still can't tell how I am doing it when it happens.

I've been trying to replicate this but to no avail. You were just doing a regular ol' dash then shadow sneaked?

 

[Chiroz]

I've been trying to replicate this but to no avail. You were just doing a regular ol' dash then shadow sneaked?

Yep, I don't know if maybe there's a specific timing or something but my input was just dash->shadow sneak, nothing else. I did it at least 4 times so it is replicable. Right now I am practicing Shulk just in case I can make it to tomorrow's tournament (I feel Shulk is really good for FFAs), but after the tournament tomorrow I will spend some time figuring out how to do this.



Also I am 15-0 on For Glory, 30-4 on stocks. I have gotten sooooooo many good Up-B gimps. I even gimped a Pikachu with 3 Up-B's in a row after he had already Up-Bed. Poor guy couldn't do anything but "fall onto the stage" and I kept pushing him back until he was too far away to make it.

 

[Erionn]

You have to input Side-B during what seems to be a very small frame window near the beginning of the dash. I played around with it in Training mode with the 1/4th hold L speed setting, to go frame by frame. It buffers inputs so you can hold the input and then hold L and it will start on the next frame. I used the dust trail behind Greninja as a visual aid, and it's roughly around here when you want to input Side-B .

I've tried doing it outside of slow motion with this in mind, but it seems very hard and inconsistent.

 

[Sixonesix]

Ok I'm starting to get how to do this consistently, it boils down to inputting b just before greninja's legs start to move in his dash.