Need Help

[Michael0731]

When I join an online game I can't move my mouse cursor to select a character. Same goes for someone who joins my game. Also I cant see my cursor at allow hen selecting a character making it very hard to pick one, because i cant see it...

If anyone has any advice on how to fix this, It'd be much appreciated.
Thanks

 

[dandan]

the second problem of not seeing the cursor is caused by your graphics plugin, i would recommend changing it to glide or to the newest version of 3d8.

now, for not being able to move, are you using pad, if so, what controller plugin are you using.
i would say it would have been the raw data problem if you had not said that the other player cannot move as well.

just try and give all the data you can so we can troubleshoot.

 

[Michael0731]

Thanks for the response.

Okay, but where do I get the new plugin?

I'm using a gamestop xbox360 controller and I configured it right I think. I followed this guidehttp://www.sitesled.com/members/myztek/index.html

I downloaded a plugin that when I open up netplay and join a server. It says my kaillera may need updating. So I switched the kailleraclient.dll for that one, and that fixed my cursor moving problem, but I still can't see. That goes back to my first problem though, the plugin.

I have some new problems now though with downloading the new kailleraclient.dll plugin. Now I can't make games, and idk why? Like the option to make them disapered.

 

[dandan]

go to the come here first thread, there you shall find the emulator version already updated with all the recent plugins.
if the problem persists, pm and i will try helping you figure it out.

 

[Blackstreet Boy]

It's a controller plugin issue.
You probably can play using the only the emulator, but when you go online, you just can't move.
Try downloading Jabo's DirectInput7 1.40. The bad part is that you won't be able to use XBOX Controller's triggers or analogic II.

Softwares such as XPadder are also an option but always too messy.

 

[Sempiternity]

How is xpadder messy!? The guy that created that **** is a godsend.

 

[Michael0731]

okay i was able to get my controller problem fixed it was a plugin. but my graphics plugin is still not working right. Right now im useing jabo direct3d7 1.40 and its crap, i cant see my cursor or shields or fireballs stuff like that. I downloaded Glide64 plugin'Napalm' public release 1.22 and it works great! Only problem is i cant use it on netplay/ karilla/ the online thing. It reverts back to jabo one. So i went and downloaded and tried using Jabo_direct3D8 but same problem it works fine if not online but once i go online it reverts back to the old one. So i tried deleting the old ones so it forced to use jabo3d8 or glide but it still wont work. If anyone can help Thad be awesome thanks

 

[Sempiternity]

okay i was able to get my controller problem fixed it was a plugin. but my graphics plugin is still not working right. Right now im useing jabo direct3d7 1.40 and its crap, i cant see my cursor or shields or fireballs stuff like that. I downloaded Glide64 plugin'Napalm' public release 1.22 and it works great! Only problem is i cant use it on netplay/ karilla/ the online thing. It reverts back to jabo one. So i went and downloaded and tried using Jabo_direct3D8 but same problem it works fine if not online but once i go online it reverts back to the old one. So i tried deleting the old ones so it forced to use jabo3d8 or glide but it still wont work. If anyone can help Thad be awesome thanks

Netplay looks for a plugin called Jabo_Direct3D7 when starting up. By cleverly renaming the most up-to-date Jabo video plugin (3D8 1.6) that name, you can get PJ64k to load up that plugin.

Delete (backup) every video plugin in your plugin folder, paste this one in, and report back.

http://www.mediafire.com/?tq3syp3h2yh3sqb

 

[Michael0731]

Thank you so much guys! I got it working! :D

 

[Glöwworm]

(01:25:40PM) <Michael> ugh **** sry man but tierd of gettind owne dby pros liek you peace
(01:25:40PM) <Michael> **** thgis game

 

[Olikus]

(01:25:40PM) <Michael> ugh **** sry man but tierd of gettind owne dby pros liek you peace
(01:25:40PM) <Michael> **** thgis game

If more people sandbagged I guarantee there would be more 64 online players. The more you know.

 

[Glöwworm]

I doubt it. I think they should just play more if they want to get better.

 

[Olikus]

Its a difference between losing and ******. If they feel they at least can hit you they'll can get more motivated. but when its ultra **** most players will rage because of the helplesness. At least out of my experience.

 

[The Star King]

If everybody sandbagged I would have never bothered playing this game

 

[SilentSlayers]

Sandbagging can get old pretty quick.

 

[Olikus]

I think you guys missing my point. IM taking about new players who realy cant play the game. If you try your best to destroy him as hard as possible every single game you play him. And everyone else does the same 1 out of 100 of them continues to play further. Thats a fact. IM not talking about sandbagging in general.

 

[The Star King]

I really doubt people try that hard vs people they're like 4 stocking, though

But in my kind-of-trying-but-not-really mode, I still destroy said new players, and I'm sure it's the same for others. I have to try to be bad for them to even have a chance lol, and that's no fun

Also, it's kind of awkward because some people hate being destroyed, and some people hate being sandbagged hard on, since it kind of feels disrespectful.

 

[Olikus]

I feel that sandbagging is less apriciated at higher level play. If your new to the game, you will get often more annoyed of the helplessness of being *****. Unless we're talking major sandbagging ofc like walking around falcon punch or something.

 

[The Star King]

You, like, completely ignored my post and simply reiterated what you've already said

Eh, whatever

 

[Olikus]

I just answered your comparison between ****** and sandbagging. Your point was mainly you dont have fun if your not in rapemode. My point with my first statement was about new players having fun. And I still believe most of them have more fun if they not get comboed to 300 percent. Regardless of 4 stocking or not.

 

[Sempiternity]

When you're doing the ******, you don't necessarily have to sandbag, but you should try extra hard to be creative and play fun. If you're Falcon, there should not be a single U-air x4 Up+B combo, but something that takes a little more skill that you're more likely to mess up on. It improves your skill in a way that doesn't make you untouchable to newbies.

Be creative and outlandish in everything you do. Try wacky edgeguards that are high risk, low return. Just have a blast. No need for srs bsns if you're clearly much better than the other.

 

[The Star King]

^Yes, everybody knows that. But FYI, I will still be destroying them even if I play like that.

Olikus, what about my third paragraph? Some people do NOT like being sandbagged on.

 

[Glöwworm]

^ I'm one of those people.

 

[Battlecow]

Yeah, very few people who didn't just pick up the game like being sandbagged against.

 

[ballin4life]

i've had way too many people quit after playing me so i always sandbag

 

[Olikus]

Well maybe sandbag was to hard of a word. Because its often thought of as going around doing hopeless stuff. Its not like that michael guy was an exception. Most new players feel that way. Because smash is a game with such insane skill gap between noobs and pros. just look at fps games. Ofc the best ***** noobs, but the new player will allways get in some kills at least.

But in smash you will get ***** all the time. So by not do you best to **** the hardest, the new players will get less frustrated. Its not like " hey you didnt 02death my now, play your best your *******".

On higher level play as i mentioned people dont like sandbaggers. But by playing a little bit worse against newcomers, more of them will find it fun to continue.

Why you think its rarely new players who play long enough to get good? Its because its the only players who love the game so much that they are willing to get ***** for half a year to get to a descent level.(like myself lol).

If more palyers got a kinder start at online play it would be more players. Regardless of what you guys like to do or not. Im not talking about whats more fun, or whats the best to do or w/e. But its just the way it is.

 

[The Star King]

But in smash you will get ***** all the time. So by not do you best to **** the hardest, the new players will get less frustrated. Its not like " hey you didnt 02death my now, play your best"

Once again, I'm pretty sure people rarely try their hardest against people they're way better than.

Don't think it takes that long to get to a decent level BTW. I was on par with most people after like a month or two.

 

[Olikus]

Once again, I'm pretty sure people rarely try their hardest against people they're way better than.

Don't think it takes that long to get to a decent level BTW. I was on par with most people after like a month or two.

Dont follow on your once again since you been saying the opposit the whole time. Beacuse that was my point. Ofc you will win even if you doesnt **** your hardest.

Well depends on whats descent though. It takes maybe longer time to get that feel in europe since its few players and theyr on a very high level. While in NA there more palyers, so by playing less you will faster get better than some people. IDk

 

[The Star King]

How was I saying the opposite? I said it here:

I really doubt people try that hard vs people they're like 4 stocking, though

Anyways, if people asked me to go easy on them I would, so maybe they should just do that :/

 

[Olikus]

Well yeah I should have used not try so hard rather than sandbagging. Since people have different views on that term.

 

[Battlecow]

I don't think there was ever any disagreement here. Everyone knows you shouldn't try that hard against new people/terrible people, and everyone knows enough to know when someone wants to actually play you at your "best" or near to it.

 

[Glöwworm]

Its because its the only players who love the game so much that they are willing to get ***** for half a year to get to a descent level.(like myself lol).

Dat ain't Melee

Melee is the only game that I know that has the steepest learning curve of all Smash games. That game takes years to get decent at (by decent, I mean good enough to not get completely wrecked by people who've been playing for a while). Smash 64 I feel like is not the hardest of them all to get "decent" at.

I really think people should just play more and ask around if they have questions on how to get better. There's no need to spoon feed people by sandbagging or "playing a little worse." If they legitimately want to get better, they will not ragequit and put some initiative by maybe asking about it or maybe even signing up on Smashboards (a lot of the people I see on Kaillera have no account). I think this applies to all video games, that you need to play more to get good at it. You don't pick up a controller and start 5 stocking everyone, or in shooters, 50-0'ing everyone because there's always people that have been playing longer than you. In shooters, you're paired up with good people and beginners. So of course you're gonna get some kills in. Smash is a different case where there's a more concentrated amount of people who've played for a while (e.g., tournaments).

 

[Olikus]

Dat ain't Melee

Melee is the only game that I know that has the steepest learning curve of all Smash games. That game takes years to get decent at (by decent, I mean good enough to not get completely wrecked by people who've been playing for a while). Smash 64 I feel like is not the hardest of them all to get "decent" at.

I really think people should just play more and ask around if they have questions on how to get better. There's no need to spoon feed people by sandbagging or "playing a little worse." If they legitimately want to get better, they will not ragequit and put some initiative by maybe asking about it or maybe even signing up on Smashboards (a lot of the people I see on Kaillera have no account). I think this applies to all video games, that you need to play more to get good at it. You don't pick up a controller and start 5 stocking everyone, or in shooters, 50-0'ing everyone because there's always people that have been playing longer than you. In shooters, you're paired up with good people and beginners. So of course you're gonna get some kills in. Smash is a different case where there's a more concentrated amount of people who've played for a while (e.g., tournaments).

Its opposit with me. Im not saying im descent at melee. Not at all, but i get less ***** there than i did in the begining at 64. And I havent palyed much melee.(natural talent who knows jk)

That attitude you have vs new players is just what im talking about. You expect them to join smashboards, watch movies search forums, ask quesions etc. Which ofc is the best way but only persons like me and a few others do that because they love the game so much. And it all could be made easy by not **** newcommers to hard.

But ofc nothing is better than new palyers that are willing to learn. Its just that they dont grow on threes.

 

[Glöwworm]

Its opposit with me. Im not saying im descent at melee. Not at all, but i get less ***** there than i did in the begining at 64. And I havent palyed much melee.(natural talent who knows jk)

I'm actually the same way. Anyways, that's because Melee has less hitstun and there's a lot of other game mechanics that were not present in 64 that gives you more opportunities.

Spoiler

Also, I find Melee > Smash 64

That attitude you have vs new players is just what im talking about. You expect them to join smashboards, watch movies search forums, ask quesions etc. Which ofc is the best way but only persons like me and a few others do that because they love the game so much. And it all could be made easy by not **** newcommers to hard.

But ofc nothing is better than new palyers that are willing to learn. Its just that they dont grow on threes.

There's nothing you can do about those people then. For those that are willing to learn, people can direct them to sites like this one or teach 'em a thing or two.

 

[ballin4life]

64 >>> Melee and tech skill is for noobs

yes you just started this tangent again

 

[Battlecow]

64 is actually >>>>> melee

Ballin' was closest.

Also, either melee is really easy or 90% of the people who play melee competitively suck. I could hold my own with/beat the local people after like 3-4 hours of play.

 

[Sempiternity]

If you don't want to sandbag or play subpar against a noobie, then open up your controller, remove the Z and R buttons, then play Samus.

 

[The Star King]

You're in the Midwest, Battlecow, so yeah, everybody sucks. I'm not kidding, BTW.

Anyways, I'm tired of people who already played Melee competitively saying that 64 was easier to get good at. Of course it was - if you already play one game competitively, you'll improve at the other way faster. Mark my words, when I start playing Melee, I'm going to destroy everybody in no time *smirk*

 

[asianaussie]

Its opposit with me. Im not saying im descent at melee. Not at all, but i get less ***** there than i did in the begining at 64. And I havent palyed much melee.(natural talent who knows jk)

of course you get ***** harder when you first start at 64, the game is set up to easily allow one-sided ****, especially without DI involved

 

[Battlecow]

You're in the Midwest, Battlecow, so yeah, everybody sucks. I'm not kidding, BTW.

Anyways, I'm tired of people who already played Melee competitively saying that 64 was easier to get good at. Of course it was - if you already play one game competitively, you'll improve at the other way faster. Mark my words, when I start playing Melee, I'm going to destroy everybody in no time *smirk*

MW or not, no melee player-be it mango or some nameless scrub- would beat a competitive 64 player of any stripe without at least 10 hours of experience under his belt. I'm sure it's ridiculously hard to get to the tippity-top levels of play, but if we're talking tippity-top, then every game is as hard as its best player, and 64 is the hardest game of all time.

Spoiler

Except for Super Ghouls n' Ghosts. Seriously, **** that game.