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Need help with people who dodge well

Ref

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Refpsi
Well recently I've noticed that I'm having some troubles facing any character whenever the player knows how to dodge well. It completely throws off my PK Fire, grabs, and bat hit opportunities.

I was wondering if I used the yo-yo more would it help. I think I've relied too much on projectiles.

Another option i would like to try is to combine the yo-yo with aerial moves.

This way i could use Pk fire less often and catch them off guard .

One last idea i have is to utilize long range Pk thunder, I feel I've been avoiding this attack since my transition from Melee to Brawl

Will this be good for Improving my Ness capabilities?

You can also add any other suggestions. I just need some sort of help right now
 

PK Starstorm

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use the yoyo. A good way to catch them off guard is the yo yo. try a runnning up smash. if they dodge, hold down Z and the yoyo will go into a charge smash. If your using the C stick to up smash, hold Z as soon as the yoyo comes out and they'll be hit. If they get hit by the weak attack, you can right into an aerial. Also try pkt mindgames.
 

Ref

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Well I've gotten a lot better following PK Starstorm's advice and my own advice.

Is there anything else that will help?
 

Earthbound360

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RAR fairs.

If the person you approach likes to roll behind you as you short hop up to them, usually short hopping then using a bair wont hit since it has short duration, and even if it does, it wont sweetspot. BUT, if you RAR an fair, the duration will punish them if they roll behind you and either combo them or knock them away.
 

Ref

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Thanks for that tip I'll try it out and put it to practice. I'll stop B airing so much since I do miss a lot when I combine it with a short hop and they roll behind me.
 
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