Need advice on how to beat my friend

[Smashsoup111]

Soooo basically neither me or my friend are amazing at melee. I usually use marth or falco and he usually uses either falco, link, or luigi. But that characters dont really matter soo much he plays very defensivly and will just wait for me to attack him or mess up so that he can hit me. How can i get around this so i can beat him, preferablly using marth !

 

[harriettheguy]

Hey brah,

Here is a Marth specific board to PUMP UP your Marth game:
http://www.smashboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=69

Defensive players are annoying but it is really good that you are recognizing this to be the problem in the first place!
A good rule of thumb to keep your cool is if your opponent is playing defensive...he is not attacking you!

Good luck in your smash endeavors.

 

[Signia]

run up and grab him a lot. Be sure to jump-cancel grab to make it faster. Do this by dashing and then hitting jump and Z at about the same time, or Z right after the jump button. Normally a running grab is slower and has longer recovery. What this does is stop your run, start the jumping animation, and then grabbing interrupts the jump animation. This allows you do the fast and safer standing grab while running, and it is very useful in shutting down basic defense.

 

[MTKO]

If he's playing defensively and waiting for you to approach him and make a mistake, either wait for him to come to you or trick him into making a mistake. One of the more basic examples of this would be to run in then wavedash back to bait him into throwing out an attack, grab, roll or anything else he might do. Then punish with a grab, smash, or whatever fits the situation.

If you both end up not approaching each other for a while and he gets impatient and tries to come in for an attack or bait you into attack when he comes in, then it's your turn to punish a mistake he makes or make him make a mistake. Maybe he has bad spacing and he hits your shield to far in, then shield grab him. Maybe he runs then stops or wave dashes back trying to make you attack, grab him. Tons of other situations, but I was just giving some very basic examples that might get you thinking.

 

[Hydro_Smasher]

learn how to chain up throws, up tilt, and f smash.

e z falco destroyer

welcome to the boards, friend!