1999
Smash Rookie
https://smashboards.com/tiers/#1,20...,4.D#16,11,15,10.F#1,26,19,21.12,13,11,10,8,0
Completely based off the knowledge I have of melee so far (Been playing competitively since Christmas 16'). I don't expect anyone to agree with this tier list especially since it's my first one. I also didn't put Fox his own tier since i believe that the other viable characters, on a human level, can beat fox efficiently , so long as the person knows the matchup and percentages.
Not saying Fox isn't OP or that he's on the same technical level as Marth, Falco, Shiek, ETC. A TAS Fox can do some of the craziest **** that a TAS Shiek or Marth just can't do, at a AI level Fox is almost unbeatable, he has thee best tools in the game, but when it comes down for a human to execute everything that makes Fox a broken character, like doing perfect legdedashes, shine out of shield, triple shines, ETC. It can be difficult, especially in a tournament setting. (we all get nerves in tournaments, most noticeably when you fight someone who you know is ranked far beyond you)
With that in mind there are still a lot of actions that can be easily done with Fox like, single hit u-air, shine spike off stage, u-smash & u-air at anything over 100% (depending on stage and character) ETC.
Conclusion, on a human level Fox isn't completely unbeatable, or so hard to beat to the point of where I'm worried about having to fight a Fox in my bracket. If you use a viable character and know the matchup, he's not that extremely hard to kill.
I see that on human level any other of the top 8 viable characters can beat Fox, which is why I didn't give him his own tier. He just isn't that unbeatable.
Completely based off the knowledge I have of melee so far (Been playing competitively since Christmas 16'). I don't expect anyone to agree with this tier list especially since it's my first one. I also didn't put Fox his own tier since i believe that the other viable characters, on a human level, can beat fox efficiently , so long as the person knows the matchup and percentages.
Not saying Fox isn't OP or that he's on the same technical level as Marth, Falco, Shiek, ETC. A TAS Fox can do some of the craziest **** that a TAS Shiek or Marth just can't do, at a AI level Fox is almost unbeatable, he has thee best tools in the game, but when it comes down for a human to execute everything that makes Fox a broken character, like doing perfect legdedashes, shine out of shield, triple shines, ETC. It can be difficult, especially in a tournament setting. (we all get nerves in tournaments, most noticeably when you fight someone who you know is ranked far beyond you)
With that in mind there are still a lot of actions that can be easily done with Fox like, single hit u-air, shine spike off stage, u-smash & u-air at anything over 100% (depending on stage and character) ETC.
Conclusion, on a human level Fox isn't completely unbeatable, or so hard to beat to the point of where I'm worried about having to fight a Fox in my bracket. If you use a viable character and know the matchup, he's not that extremely hard to kill.
I see that on human level any other of the top 8 viable characters can beat Fox, which is why I didn't give him his own tier. He just isn't that unbeatable.