Much more effective way to setup neutralB lock!?!

[Teh Future]

OK so when I first started playing IC I wondered why after two popo dthrow to nana fair people would not go for the IBL, since it is very effective for racking up damage. It works great on computers after all. Obviously, when I started trying it on actual opponents it didn't work so great, people DIed all over the place when you chaingrab them and a lot of the time just end up behind you or in some other crazy position. It was also difficult to setup the alternate hits perfectly. I think I might I found a solution to this.

Instead of dthrowing, use popo Forward throw to Nana Spike. You can spike them at a greater distance away from you, so DI should not be a problem, and it desyncs the ICs perfectly. I think(not completely sure though) that it takes longer to do this, so popo's first ice block hits the person almost as soon as they hit the ground. Sounds promising, but idk. Im playing with some people later today so Ill get back to you guys on the results.

 

[SuSa]

Pretty sure you can't IBL out of a fthrow for some reason.

It only works for me when I DThrow or footstool :/

 

[Teh Future]

ummm no it works on computers for sure. Im just saying its a better way to set it up rather than dthrow to fair because it puts them farther away from you and desyncs the ICs much easier.

 

[SuSa]

I still can't do it using fthrow xD I must be ********......

I still like dthrow more. :D

 

[smaci92]

If they're at around 40%-60%, I use fthrow to fair or dthrow to fair...but I find that: release grab to fair works best at higher percents...

 

[FrozenHobo]

fthrow is the only way to set up an ibl. i can do it fine on humans, i don't know why you should have any trouble, havokk... :-/


i've killed characters on walk off stages using ibl... it so easy and it pisses everyone off.

 

[SuSa]

Fthrow never works for me >.< do you have to pause before B or what? (I normally do my best to buffer it :3)

 

[Canvasofgrey]

Hmm, I thought it was possible to IBL off another grab? Must be my mistake.

 

[FrozenHobo]

just jump, press forward a and instantly press b. popo starts up while nana is lagging from the fair.

 

[smaci92]

Fthrow never works for me >.< do you have to pause before B or what? (I normally do my best to buffer it :3)

it's the same thing as dthrow, except replacing the dthrow with a fthrow...

 

[SuSa]

it's the same thing as dthrow, except replacing the dthrow with a fthrow...

Which strangely doesn't 'lock' them.

I consider a lock a 'force get up' where they cannot attack or roll :3 which fthrow never seems to do for me (or it just doesn't lock in general)

 

[Z1GMA]

For the early Nanaspike regrabs x2, I always use Popo Dthrow -> Nanaspike -> regrab.
But for the IBL I always use Popo Fthrow -> Nanaspike -> Iceblocks.

 

[Teh Future]

^well apparently people already know about it but ti does work a lot better, I used it a couple times tonight.

 

[smaci92]

Which strangely doesn't 'lock' them.

I consider a lock a 'force get up' where they cannot attack or roll :3 which fthrow never seems to do for me (or it just doesn't lock in general)

hmmm that's wierd lol...it locks for me...

 

[B0mbe1c]

I only use Fthrow to Fair when Im on edge, because I cant meteor w/ Dthrow to Fair on large characters. ;>.<
Also, I use dthrow for IBL, because thats how I first saw/did it....

 

[ChibiIceClimberz]

I use d-throw or f-throw to ice block lock, but IMO f-throw's easier because d-throw has a little lag at the end after the spike so my desynched ice shots messes up.

 

[FrozenHobo]

i just can't get the hang of dthrow to fair... it just feels more natural to only have to press the control stick in one direction....

 

[Funen1]

I can personally see both D-throw and F-throw working (it really depends on getting the desynched Ice Shots timed right), although the timing of the overall sequence would obviously differ. I prefer F-throw to Nana F-air as the setup, but that's just me.

i just can't get the hang of dthrow to fair... it just feels more natural to only have to press the control stick in one direction....

You can try using the joystick for the throw and the C-stick for Nana's F-air.