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finalark

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I'll admit, I like MMORPGs. Sure, they don't hold my attention very long (and because of that I'm immune to the whole "mindless nerd zombie" thing that happens to people who play them) but they're fun while they last. So after downloading Runes of Magic, playing through the tutorial then finding that I was hit with lag so terrible that I couldn't play it (shame too, it looked pretty good) I started thinking about MMORPGs that I've played in the past. And here's what I came up with.

Final Fantasy XI:

I really, really wanted to go into this one. No joke, it looked like a great game, but I just couldn't get into it. No matter how hard I tried, and I had a friend who played this game too. Every time I glance over at my shelf of PC games and see this one, I really want to pop it in and give it another go, but I can't because every time I've been met with the same result. I just can't get into it.

City of Heroes:

Here's a game that liked, the community is great, the level of customization is insane, and it's fun. It's a shame that at around level 10 I started to get this feeling of repetition. My problem with it was that I couldn't help but feel that I'm not really making much progress in the game, seeing how I'll save a woman from getting purse-snatched on block, then two blocks later the same one is getting purse-snatched again. And not to mention that the whole "invade the bad guy's layer" thing started to get old. But over all, I liked City of Heroes and I recommend it to anyone who's always wanted to be a Super Hero. Face it, you know you've wanted to.

Dungeon Runners:

This is a truly great game. The idea of the game is simple, go into various dungeons on various quests. But what really makes this game is the whole "MMORPG parody" thing. The game constantly has this parodrific (yes, I just made that word up) sense of humor to it that just makes this game a load of fun to play.

World of Warcraft:

No matter how much I don't want to admit it, I liked World of Warcraft. Oh, not the Burning Crusade or Wrath of the Lich King, the game lost everything I ever liked about it when those came out. I loved the huge world to explore, the quests were entertaining and some of them had a great sense of humor to them and lets not forget that (assuming that you have the intelligence to pay attention) many interesting story-arcs throughout. It's a shame that the expansions killed everything that I liked about the game.

The Lord of the Rings Online:

This is what I consider to be the best MMORPG I've ever played. And the thing that makes me sad is that I can't put my finger on what I liked about it. In all honesty, it was a WoW clone at it's core, but there was just something about it that got me to love it. Although I'll admit that it did the same thing the Burning Crusade did in the sense that it had a bloody tiny world (the part of Middle-Earth that you do get to quest in is minimal), but there's just something I loved about this game that I just can't put my finger on.

Those aren't all of the MMORPGs I've ever played (we'd be here all day if I went over all of them), those are just the ones that I thought needed to be pointed out.
 
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I played Runescape about 5 years back and haven't touched an MMORPG since. Noob beggars ruin the entire game for me. I logged on as a joke last week and within a minute I had a noob begging for money.
 

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I played Runescape about 5 years back and haven't touched an MMORPG since. Noob beggars ruin the entire game for me. I logged on as a joke last week and within a minute I had a noob begging for money.


Runescape, I remember that piece of crap game. I remember it was really popular for a while, then when my friend finally got me to play it I played for about a week and a half before I said, "I gave it a chance, and it sucked."
 

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MMORPGs are too dull for me. All you do is go outside, kill monsters to grind levels and equipment, and as soon as you have it, you go on PvP, which is basically only determining who has the best level and equipment and can press the spell button fast enough.

I rather play a shooter or something if I want to play a dull game.
 

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I'm not a great fan of MMORPGs personally.

kek.
 

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MMORPGs simultaneously astound and disgust me.
What disgusts me is the phenomenal waste of potential they are; they managed to pull together a huge virtual world with thousands of individual people playing together, yet the gameplay amounts to nothing but comparing stats to see who wins between two opponents.
What astounds me is how they managed to sell an RPG without the story and become successful.
 

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MMORPGs simultaneously astound and disgust me.
What disgusts me is the phenomenal waste of potential they are; they managed to pull together a huge virtual world with thousands of individual people playing together, yet the gameplay amounts to nothing but comparing stats to see who wins between two opponents.
What astounds me is how they managed to sell an RPG without the story and become successful.
I might be seeing this wrong but are you suggesting that games like World of Warcraft have NO story at all? Many good RPG's, including the mentioned one can have a great storyline if you actually look behind the game. But I have seen some without much of a story.

I personally loved World of Warcraft. It was the first MMORPG I played, but it gets boring once you cap your level. The only fun part is leveling up. After 80 PvE sucks if you don't have good connections. That's what I hated about it. It gets to be a bit TOO serious to some people also, which ruined it.
 

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I might be seeing this wrong but are you suggesting that games like World of Warcraft have NO story at all? Many good RPG's, including the mentioned one can have a great storyline if you actually look behind the game. But I have seen some without much of a story.
If you look behind the game, yes, but at that point you're better off just reading a book.
 

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Used to spend loads of time playing them, until the horrible realization at how utterly useless they were. I only regret not seeing that sooner...actually I regret ever starting.
 

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If you look behind the game, yes, but at that point you're better off just reading a book.
Or you oh, I don't know read the quests. For instance, in World of Warcraft you can get a fairly good story if you just read the quests when following a chain, but most people are to busy going "lolz, doo kan can you hlp me wth tis qwest?"
 

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Ragnarok Online is one I do NOT suggest. All you do in that game is just kill enemies.
Literally. That's all.
I think you're confusing RO for Maple Story there.

RO has WoE and pvp at least.

Not saying RO is amazing, but eh. I don't really like either but RO is pretty good for a free mmorpg as long as you get into the right private server.
 

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I played a game called "2Moons" during open beta for a while. It was my first MMO so I had nothing to compare it to, and had a blast leveling my character up to the higher levels, but after that, there was basically nothing to do but kill more and more monsters, so I decided to quit.

Afterwards, I had tried playing Silkroad, Perfect World, Cabal, Last Chaos, Shaiya, RF, etc. All the popular "free" (Korean Grindfest) MMOs, and realized how cookie-cutter and boring they all are. I decided to buy WoW to try something different (and was dumb enough to buy both a three month subscription and expansion without thinking that I could possibly not like it.) and thought it was way too slow-paced to be fun at all (the battle system in 2Moons was extremely fast paced, and I liked that a lot.). I then bought Guild Wars thinking it would be a little better, but didn't like the fact that I only had NPCs to talk to outside of town unless I brought a party, and considering I had no friends in the game whatsoever, that made finding one a little tough).

Bottom line, if you're going to get into an MMO, get some friends to start out with you and level your characters together. Soloing gets boring and random people are hard to trust sometimes. And also, start off with a GOOD game. One with high critical praise and lots of people playing so you'll have nothing in your past to compare it to, and won't want to try anything else for a long time.

Just keep in mind how big of time-wasters they are, though, lol. It can get pretty ridiculous.
 

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Is Perfect World any good?

Which of those are free? (if any)
I've just downloaded Perfect World this week and it is absolutely gorgeous. And it is free all the way.

What made me fall in love with it is the character creation. You can change almost every aspect of your character. Like eyebrow shape and size. Your chin and everything. Even the female's bust. rofl.

The game is fairly new, and just last night they made an update that pretty much added a great feature to the game. And I am like "whoa i JUST got the game and they add more super stuff."

ANother good thing is that they separate fashion from armor. For instance, if you want to style yourself with good clothing, but don't actually want to wear it in combat, you wouldnt have a problem in this MMORPG. You can have cool armor, but if you are chilling int the city and just wanna relax and chat, you simply press a button to switch to your clothes. THe game focuses on ALOT of fashionable customization. You have pigments or dyes the color up yout outfits and stuff.

Another great thing is the option to marry other players. You can only have opposite sex marriages of the same race, and there are only three races, Human, Winged Elf, and Untamed.

Humans have the classes Blademaster and Wizard, which is basically Warrior and Mage.

Winged Elves have the classes Cleric and Archer. Cleric of course is like a white mage. WEs have angel wings coming out the head like ears. They also are able to fly right at character creation. They gain actual angel wings from the back.

Untamed have the classes Barbarian and Venomancer. Only males can be barbarians and females can be venomancers. Venomancers are pet trainers and use nature-like abilities, like the Animist class from FF:Tactics A2.

Male Untamed can have a tiger, wolf, panda, etc faces. They have the ability to transfer into actual white tigers. Not sure if they can transfer into there respective type.

Female untamed are humanoid, but they can have Bunny ears/tail, Fox ears/tail, Demon ears/tail, and Cat ears/tail. They have the ability to transform into actual foxes. (Not sure if they can transfer into there respective type.)

They also give you the option to search for quests with a Find Quest function, rather than walking around aimlessly for them.

THis is a really good game for being free. I will be playing this until Guild Wars 2 comes out, which will probably be the best MMORPG ever. lol
 

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The only cool thing about Perfect World is the character customization. You'll find that other games do everything it does just as well, if not better. Just another grinder, really.
 

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The only cool thing about Perfect World is the character customization. You'll find that other games do everything it does just as well, if not better. Just another grinder, really.
Well every MMORPG is a grinder, trying to take the grind out of a MMORPG is like trying to take the peanut out of peanut butter. It just doesn't work, and I've played one game in particular called Maginogi that tried to take the grind out of MMORPGs. It ended up being a grind fest anyway. Only rather than endlessly killing monsters you're endlessly doing chores for lazy people.
 

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A grinder as in there's not much to do but kill stuff.

And if there are quests they're all "kill 20 this, kill 43 that, a monster took my baby, so kill 137 of them because that will exact my revenge and you'll get a little bit of money"

Finding a balance between grind and other gameplay elements is the key to a good game, and the ones that have found that are immensely successful, and usually not f2p.
 
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