mk wins another tournament

[SaiX]

hi mk board, i have win a regional tournament in spain (anadalucia)(32 entrants)
this is my mk, isnt my main but its my second ,but mk.....
i want you rate my mk

well.... the prize was 80 € and a cup

i dont talk more, lets watch the video (high quality please ^^)

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=UHf56oSoxgI

i had some stupid mistakes.. yes

 

[Babar-Thorbald]

Well, your mk is pretty ok, but from what I see:

Use d-smash more (you only used it vs. ivysaur, but you could've killed char and squirtle faster with the d-smash...).
Maybe too much upB.
But mostly, you aren't taking advantage of the map:
You can do severat things with mk:
When the platform is flying, you can go under it, and abuse of the upB, or fress fast B to use your tornado from under your opponent (it's very annoying).
Then, you could do few nasty combos in this world: when there is a wall (for example 1:50, or 2:30)
Just put the opponent between you and the wall, and then: D-tilt, D-tilt, D-tilt... and end this with a D-smash... You can easily deal 60% If the opponent isn't at too high percents...

That's what I see from this vid...
You can use the Dair spam (Just jump, dair, jump, dair... etc, while staying in the air), ended with a tornado if you want too, in order to have more different approaches.

 

[Omega_Star]

You have a pretty solid Meta Knight; you're very good about quickly moving from one attack to the next. Some things I noticed:
-You tended to use shuttle loop more than you needed to. I'd imagine that got predictable, and there are other options when the opponent is in that position, such as...
-Mach Tornado. You never really used this move offensively. There was one point near the beginning of the match where you used it to get back on the stage, and it hit Charizard, but instead of trapping him in it and racking up damage you went through him to the other end of the stage, and this move is super effective (lolol) against heavy characters like Charizard. There were times you seemed to be using it offensively but you used it in a position where your opponent could easily knock you out of it. I like to be at least a little higher off the ground than my opponent before I use it. It's a great move to rack up damage and get your opponent to killing percents. It's also really great for punishing spot dodges and air dodges.
-You tended to use down smash when the opponent was at lower percents. This is understandable, since it is a good move, but I think it could be better used by saving it as a kill move when the opponent is at higher percents, and using other moves to score damage (such as tornado or forward tilt) at lower percents.
-Forward tilt. I saw you use this move about only three times, but I think you could use it more. It's great for spacing, knocking your opponent into the air, dealing damage, and refreshing your other moves.

Overall, though, pretty solid play, and congrats on winning the tournament.

 

[Staco]

You do Nair to much. And try Dash Attack instead of Grab Attack some times.
Your approaching isnt extrem good all the time, because your are over aggressive. Try to space a little bit more and dont run in the range of the attacks of your opponents. And try to use tilts a little bit more.
You dont use your spacing very well, mostly you go forward all the time without looking to not get hit.
Sure, MK is a character which can be played very aggressive, but you shouldnt just run into your opponent without looking to not getting hit.

Ehm, why is it only Bo3? Oo

Why dont you post the other match?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI1-eKC0zzg
Look, Joseph won this, because he played clever and not over aggressive without looking to not getting hit.

 

[SaiX]

there was another but we didnt record it because we were nervous and we forgot it ^^,

the final results 2-1 for me, and wasnt necessary another set because i was in winners brackets, yeah, that batle i was stupid, thanks for your tricks

 

[Babar-Thorbald]

I forgot one little, thus VERY IMPORTANT thing: DON'T YOU DARE TRYING TO USE PINK MK AGAIN!!!
HE IS MINE!


lol, beside that, you can use it red, black, white, green or regular... But leave me that awful pink flying chewing gum .

 

[magikguy]

You gotta use that tornado more offensively , not just to recover. More grabs also

 

[TKD]

La gente te critica, pero creo que no importa si haces lo que dicen (ya que sus consejos no son muy buenos y los jugadores probablemente no sean tan buenos como tú). Por ejemplo abusar del dsmash solo hace que esté menos fresco (y de cualquier forma ftilt hace igual de daño), nair es muy buen ataque y puedes usarlo mucho, tornado no es tan abusable como muchos creen, y demás. Tampoco cometiste tantos errores como crees.

Eres un jugador entretenido de ver, y creo que eres bueno. Aunque Pokémon Trainer como personaje, tiene muchas opciones para castigar o dañarte si lo atacas, pero si lo esperas más que otra cosa, te regala las oportunidades de castigarlo, aparte sus opciones de larga distancia no son tan buenas. Es un premio en sí mismo esperar a Pokémon Trainer debido a que cada monstruo sólo tiene 1 minuto antes de cansarse, menos 1 segundo por cada movimiento que utiliza.

Por cierto, los sets de winner's finals, loser's finals y grand finals deberían ser 3 de 5 juegos. Si no entiendes muy bien, es porque yo hablo un español mexicano, pero creo que se comprende, de cualquier forma.

I hope it's OK to post in Spanish, he's supposed to get it.

 

[SaiX]

La gente te critica, pero creo que no importa si haces lo que dicen (ya que sus consejos no son muy buenos y los jugadores probablemente no sean tan buenos como tú). Por ejemplo abusar del dsmash solo hace que esté menos fresco (y de cualquier forma ftilt hace igual de daño), nair es muy buen ataque y puedes usarlo mucho, tornado no es tan abusable como muchos creen, y demás. Tampoco cometiste tantos errores como crees.

Eres un jugador entretenido de ver, y creo que eres bueno. Aunque Pokémon Trainer como personaje, tiene muchas opciones para castigar o dañarte si lo atacas, pero si lo esperas más que otra cosa, te regala las oportunidades de castigarlo, aparte sus opciones de larga distancia no son tan buenas. Es un premio en sí mismo esperar a Pokémon Trainer debido a que cada monstruo sólo tiene 1 minuto antes de cansarse, menos 1 segundo por cada movimiento que utiliza.

Por cierto, los sets de winner's finals, loser's finals y grand finals deberían ser 3 de 5 juegos. Si no entiendes muy bien, es porque yo hablo un español mexicano, pero creo que se comprende, de cualquier forma.

I hope it's OK to post in Spanish, he's supposed to get it.

tomare los que me parezcan mejor, pero algunos consejos que me han dado no me parecen correctos, muchos me dicen que soy demasiado ofensivo que deberia ser mas cautelosos a la hora de atacar, pero a mi me gusta jugar asi, pero solo me sale rentable hacerlo con mk, si hiciera eso con samus me la destrozarian, respecto a lo de winer y real final, es al mejor de 3 porque es de 32 entrantes, no de 64, si josep me hubiese ganado ese set el seguiente si seria al mejor de 5.

 

[Babar-Thorbald]

Entiendo el español, pero voy a escribir in inglès, porque soy mejor en inglès que en español.

TDK, I've read what you said, but you've posted some wrong things:

It's stupid to tell him not to take the comments in account... What makes yours better? What makes you sure that the other guys who posted before you are "( los jugadores probablemente no sean tan buenos como tú)"...
Then if he didn't want any comment, why would have he posted this video?
"La gente te critica, pero creo que no importa si haces lo que dicen"
It would be stupid to say "wow, you're good! don't change anything!"

Even if someone is good, that doesn't means he is perfect...
To criticise someone is the way to help him improve, not to say that's perfect when he obviously can do some things to improve.

Then:
You said that abusing D-smash is stupid because of the refresh thing...
Well, can you look at the video before posting?
He didn't use D-smash a single time vs. charizard (SaiX could have killed that char like two hit before, if instead of a sh-nair he used the dsmash twice (because char dodged first).
Then, he used it only one time vs. squirtle, at 50%, at a time where he could have comboed him with chaining d-tilt with the wall, and three times (with one missed) vs. ivysard, at very low percent...
So, only 3 dsmash in the game, not used at the "good moment".

But, if the dsmash "isn't ok to spam" according to you (I won't say your wrong)...
Please tell me why the nair would?
nair is a kill move too? and it has the refresh thing too...
From what I've seen... 7 nair vs. char, 3 vs. squirtle, and one vs. ivy...
He did used it too much vs. char, even if he did well vs. the others.

D-smash is to use when you're almost sure to kill, just as Omega Star said, Ftilt is very good to rack up damages, especially right after a dtilt (because of the "instant two hits" glitch, added to the good amount of damages of the ftilt).


And SaiX, you said==>
"tomare los que me parezcan mejor, pero algunos consejos que me han dado no me parecen correctos, muchos me dicen que soy demasiado ofensivo que deberia ser mas cautelosos a la hora de atacar, pero a mi me gusta jugar asi, pero solo me sale rentable hacerlo con mk, si hiciera eso con samus me la destrozarian"


==> It's totally ok to do it with mk... Contrary to samus, he is not really what we could call a defensive character...

 

[**Havok**]

Please tell me why the nair would?
.

because Nair is expendable.

 

[Staco]

Even if someone is good, that doesn't means he is perfect...
To criticise someone is the way to help him improve, not to say that's perfect when he obviously can do some things to improve.

except M2K xD
and next time pls speak english
I guess other guys want to know, what you said to him ...
its unfair if you are hidding
then post him a pn or sth.

 

[Babar-Thorbald]

except M2K xD
and next time pls speak english
I guess other guys want to know, what you said to him ...
its unfair if you are hidding
then post him a pn or sth.

But m2k isn't human ;p.

And I did speak english... The first time I wrote something in spanish was in order to say that I understood spanish, but that I would speak english after this, then, I was quoting what they said in spanish, and answering in english...
But I'm too lazy to translate everything they said ><.

 

[Justblaze647]

Yay!

MK wins again.

Spoiler

Big Fuc*ing surprise that is.

 

[Babar-Thorbald]

because Nair is expendable.

Then, fair, dair, dtilt and ftilt do the same job for racking up damages, except the fact that they really are expendable...
I agree that a two hit nair at the beginning is quite useful (18% with an "almost single" hit is great), but at 50% like damages, it's definitely not the best move to spam...


Edit: SaiX, please watch this video, the second match (around 5:10), you'll see what I told you about taking advantage of delfino plazza.
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=SBzCHwiSroU

 

[SaiX]

Edit: SaiX, please watch this video, the second match (around 5:10), you'll see what I told you about taking advantage of delfino plazza.
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=SBzCHwiSroU

yes, but i dont have the same experience than m2k XDDD

 

[Babar-Thorbald]

And that's why you had to see this video...
I think that you can learn more than a few things about "how to fight here" by simply watching this video like two or three times, then, you'll be able to do the same ;p (well, you won't play as well as him, that would be too easy ><), but you can at least see what he does to take advantage of the map... like the nado above the water wher zamus is swimming, the dtilt chain (he did 45% with a single combo... quite good for mk^^), or the fact that: 7:34, you can go through this platform...
This world is a great cp for mk, so it's cool to know how to take advantage of it...

 

[SaiX]

i had already seen this video, and i have learned some things but after, aplying in the batle is more difficult