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Missile Cancelling *-*The Video*-* and some matches....

XSilvenX

Smash Lord
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May 29, 2007
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Are there still people who don't think Missile cancelling works in Brawl..? Well here

Since nobody has done this I took some time, went to a friend's house and did this...also played a few matches while I was at it.

Missile Cancelling...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fnlfw_dH_g


Some vs. Matches

I'm always Samus
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Silven vs. Shin 1(Lucario)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4UhrfkXXFI


Silven vs. Shin 2(Lucario)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juZ8aU7Bq68


Silven vs. Shin 3(Lucario)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my7TmBFB6CA


Silven vs. Shin 4(Diddy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4kvPsNQuOs


Silven vs. Shin 5(Diddy)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Zwa4EnhEc
 

Dais

Smash Cadet
Joined
Nov 1, 2007
Messages
74
Location
Alabama
THANK YOU. So nice to finally know Missle Cancels are still in. Its not like it was a huge cheat or anything. I was kinda conserned with the nair switching knockback with the bair and the super Missiles a little nerfed, but Samus looks alright. The homing missles actually looked more useful this time around. Also, Thanks #2 for playing purple Samus ( my fav ). ........ Wow, I'd be so awesome if this game was released one day.
 

Psydon

Smash Journeyman
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Messages
311
One thing I immediately noticed with Missile Cancelling is that there's a part of Samus' Missile animation where, probably for less than a second, she's just falling unable to move apart from DI. That's going to make MC feel a little weird for people making the transition from Melee to Brawl.

Just look at the demonstration video. Time after time, there's a point just before you hit the ground where you do nothing, so it looks like you're actually finishing the animation and just falling of your own will. But of course, that can't be given the speed at which you are able to act upon landing; there's less lag in Brawl than Melee, but in these cases there's indeed no lag whatsoever.
 

Psydon

Smash Journeyman
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Messages
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what do u mean by she's just falling unable to move apart from DI?
She's still within her Missile animation, so she cannot act until the animation ends, but she is still able to move in the air. There are plenty of times when Silven moves back or forward during this short time.

It is this "dead zone" part of the animation, at least in Silven's video, that touches the ground and triggers the Missile Cancel, as opposed to Melee, where the MC occurred just after Samus shot her Missile or during the Missile shot.

Edit: I watched Silven's video again and then the other MC videos; that "dead zone" is just the very end of Samus' Missile animation before she resets to her default falling position; the only reason that part of the animation is being cancelled is because of the height of Silven's jumps (Samus can SH lower than that). The other videos show that you can MC just as you could in Melee. However, I still think that some players may end up being a bit thrown off by the new Brawl physics and Samus' slightly altered physics while initially trying to MC.
 

Dew Rag

Smash Ace
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Jun 1, 2006
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if you see my vid, I shoot a lot lower than silven. The short hop isn't lower, it's just the timing is trickier for shooting lower mced missiles

it took me a while to get used to, i think i still shoot and play like the melee one, and i don't think i really have that "dead zone". i think it mostly depends on the timing for the missile, the way silven is doing it, in melee it would be a platform canceled missile on yoshi or pokemon stadium

bleh oh well
 

squarez

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Feb 8, 2008
Messages
186
Nice playing, use some grapple cancels, hylian seems to really use it effectively and it looks like its awesome.
 

plök

Smash Cadet
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Nov 7, 2007
Messages
36
Location
Madison WI
Looks good. I was kind of worried if MC would still be in.




Please post more videos of Samus killing Diddy Kong. Or Donkey Kong.
 

Mars-

Smash Champion
Joined
Jun 15, 2006
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Location
Chicago area
No offense to hylian or anything, but you seem to have a better grasp on how to play brawl samus. Either that or your just not vs people as good.

I would love to seem more grapple cancels in peoples samus videos so we can really start developing a good plan.
 
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